Palmtree Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 So what is the oldest yard on the Broads? When reading 'The Coot club' 1930's it refered to boatyards in Horning and Wroxham. What I did not expect was mention in the book of a boat yard offering repairs and safe morings off Breydon. The location sounds like Goodchilds. Being at Burgh Castle, there is the potental to go back to Roman times and beyond! Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 could be Sanderson's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmtree Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 Jonny, Good idea however, what I also should have said is that in the story they came off Breydon going up to Beccles, and the yard was just past the Roman walls. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares_9 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Interesting, I must have a word with Alan or Sue, they should have some info on the history. There was certainly a basin there of the fetid dyke variety for a very long time before the “marina proper†Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadlander3 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hi Fellow Broads Lovers Just been having a browse through the varios topics on your site and found this one that does interest me very much. It would seem that it is a while since anyone put a reply onto this thread so thought I'd add my two penn'orth and see if anyone can add any info to the little I know. I suppose it depends on how you look at this, but I personally take the subject to mean "Yards that Hired" to the public and not just Boatbuilders?? The obvious one has to be Ernest Collins being the only yard to be represented by Harry Blake in 1908, although he was in business prior to this date otherwise Blake wouldn't have known about him. Have also read somewhere that John Loynes was the acknowleged founder of the Hire Business dating back to possibly pre 1908 and have it on good authority that there were others...The Press Family for one having had a Yard at Belaugh many many years ago! Can anyone confirm or better add to would be most appreciated.... Best Regards Terry B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 The following information may help: Robert Kemp at Oulton Broad 1869 John Loynes at Norwich 1878 George Applegate at Potter Heigham 1880 Arthur Press at Coltishall 1881 John Loynes moved to Wroxham 1882 Robert Collins at Wroxham 1886 John Hart at Thorpe Gardens Public House 1888 The above dates from documentary evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadlander3 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Expilot... I salute you Spot on info... Just what I was hoping to find!...Many Thanks Terry B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 No probs Terry B. All information cribbed from SWMBO's research papers. She's writing a history of the Norfolk Broads' boatyards. Glad it was useful. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 If SWMBO doesn't mind David, I am sure a lot more of her research would find grateful readers on this forum. I know I'd be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 As you might imagine, a history of the Broads boatyards is a mammoth work. It has been many years in gestation and is a long way off publication. She spends her time productively researching and writing books. I squander mine reading three Broads forums! (She says!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 The following information may help: Robert Kemp at Oulton Broad 1869 John Loynes at Norwich 1878 George Applegate at Potter Heigham 1880 Arthur Press at Coltishall 1881 John Loynes moved to Wroxham 1882 Robert Collins at Wroxham 1886 John Hart at Thorpe Gardens Public House 1888 The above dates from documentary evidence. Hi all, Thought this may be of interest, Robert Kemp is the Great Great Grandfather of me and Paul (Richardson) and our sister Laura. He started building Wherries behind his Fathers pub 'The Lady of the Lake' in Oulton Broad on Lake Lothing before moving to Commodore road where he built a shed behind old mill house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares_9 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Intersting document, though technically not Broads it must be a contender. Welcome to the site by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Very interesting. I'm intrigued by the link between one of the oldest boatyards and one of the most prominent boating businesses on the Broads today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hello again, Thanks, how about this? The wherry in the picture is 'British Queen' Robert Kemp did not build it he did build 'Chieftain' and 2 or 3 others, it is written in a book which they were But I have been unable to find out which book! Glad you find it interesting. Clive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Yes, definitely interesting. That picture with the British Queen in it is worthy of a place on this thread. I wonder what it looks like now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I have a few photos for that thread, problem is scanning them all, 'British Queen' is said to be on Rockland broad, I do have a better picture of her, Kemp sold the wherry to Fred Miller in 1873 who also bought the yard. Dad bought the yard back in 1943. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I could potentially help with that if it's you are interested in sharing the pics with the forum and scanning is a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labrador Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hi C Ricko, welcome to the site. Have you looked at Black Sailed Traders by Roy Clarke it may well be in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Of course David (ex-pilot that is) the yard you and I frequent most just looks the oldest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 :-D :-D :-D :-D It will soon be unrecognisable. New marina going in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 The lads were telling me about that... I really look forward to seeing that, they need all the help they can get to keep the business going. I do hope they fill up, it would be a good base for anyone - so long as you don't mind the distance from the road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Thanks for the offers, the scanning problem is that my girlfriend does all the Graphic design for us and she is busy with the brochure but I can squeeze a few in every now and then! I will take some home tonight. I think we looked in 'Black sailed traders' but although there was a list of wherries built and their builders Robert Kemp does not get a mention! Regarding the private moorings, yes it is a bit of a mud bath at the moment but will look really good in a week or two, the wet shed is also getting 15 new private moorings as well as new roof lights and shed side, apparently it is the biggest wet shed in the UK, can anyone confirm this ? Anway, I am not really here to talk about the business just share some interesting points, perhaps I should get a different hat (probably a tin one!) and log in under the business name to talk about all our wonderful facilities! Chers, Clive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares_9 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 No, you carry on Clive, talk about the business all you like :-D There is a special area though for offers and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 This site has done, IMHO, a remarkably good job of accommodating businesses wishing to discuss their own goods / services etc without allowing it to interfere with the larger site so I am sure you would be very welcome to do that though please do not take my word for it as I do not speak for the site. On the subject of whether the hat should be tin I'd say probably not on this site as I don't think any members here have an axe to grind. You always have some that resent successful businesses but I doubt that'll be a problem here. I really must get round to visiting The Racecourse, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadlander3 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hi Clive...Welcome to this wonderful site and thanks for some cracking info about your families early ties with the Broads! I make it, that with the important dates already supplied by the knowledgable members here that your Great Great Grandfather was the owner of "The Oldest Boatyard" on the Broads... to date anyway!...Something to be very proud of imho. Do you recognise my Avatar?? All the Best....Terry B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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