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JPC are agents for Sidepower, also Goodchilds have fitted loads, they have been churning out a German hire boat a month with one fitted for quite some time alongside other fittings so I imagine they'll have had the most recent large scale experience.

Cost? depends on the model of thruster and other things like would you want a dedicated battery (recommended), best thing is get a couple of quotes.

There are also some new labour saving models now which work on smaller holes and a water pump, but reports so far are not encouraging.

Anyway, you shouldn't fit one, you'll upset Jonny :naughty::naughty::naughty::wave :-D

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Anyway, you shouldn't fit one, you'll upset Jonny :naughty: :naughty: :naughty::wave :-D

NO!!! COMMENT!!! :twisted::naughty::wave:wave

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Hi Guys,

My ears must have been burning :naughty:

Yep David You are absolutley correct I did have a bow thruster fitted last year by JPC (Moores) Wroxham.

I decided on JPC to do the work as they had previous experience with the particular problems with my hull type as they had retro fitted bowthrusters to their Braemoores (I think its Braemoore the 35' fwd drive Alphacrafts).

Due to the hull form (or rather lack of it ) Fwd on this hull type (the old Bahama/bermuda FB Wilds Hull) there is not enough in the way of the fwd area to fit a BT and the unit has to be fitted further aft than is ideal and Tunnel extentions fitted below the water line. These tunnel extensions were developed by Langford at Alphacraft so he could fit BT's to his Alpha 35's and others that still use the old FB Wilds hulls.

Towards the end of the 06 season I was quoted just less than £2k to fit a BT by JPC which was similar to the other quotes I had obtained but no one else had mentioned the particular problem with my hull form.

When I decided to take up the option early in the 07 season JPC said they would stick by the quote given earlier even though the prices had gone up in the meantime. So In Sally went.

She also had a bottom anti foul and topsides polish while she was out of the water.

When she was out of the water they realised they had quoted me for the wrong size BT motor as because it is fitted further aft than normal it has to be more powerful (due to not acting on the extremes of the vessel ) But still were willing to honour the Quote given. Impressed you bet I was .

Total work scheduled to take I week.

I month later I was geting a bit cheesed off and let them know in no uncertain terms that my boat was leaving the yard finished or not on the spring bank holiday Monday which was 8 days in advance. (I had been told by the yard that the underwater bits were finished the motor in place and only the electricals needed connecting. My spy in the yard confirmed this :naughty: )

Sping Bank holiday Monday at around 1400 we arrived in the yard to find my boat still not ready and worse still in a very dirty state.

As I was hot wiring my ignition to start the boat and depart the yard as promised the Chief engineer of the yard turned up full of apologies and promised to have the boat ready within the hour. I gave her 2 hours and when I returned my boat was ready and better still clean.

Over the next 2 to 3 months we did find a few electrical problems which were due to incorrect wiring by JPC but I must say to their credit they fixed them without any questions or charge.

So was I pleased with my choice of JPC?

Well I am totally satisfied with the way they honoured the quotes given despite both price increases and mis quoting me.

I am delighted with the performance of the BT.

I am Fully satisfied with the quality of the Sleipner unit and the quality of the Fibre Glassing done below the water line (It does help to have a spy or 2 in the business ;) )

I was not so pleased with the mistakes made in the wiring but I think that was more to do with the job being rushed rather than the capabilites of the engineers (leccys) working on the boat. And I must say the problems were eventually sorted out and in good cheer by both sides ( no table thumping reqd etc simply " I have a problem" " Yes Sir, we will fix it" )

Although I do understand that it was a personal problem which was the cause of the delay and then they were behind getting the fleet ready. Being over I month late was pretty bad.

Barry if you do want to look in to getting a BT then go there for a quote but for a boat of our size I would think it would be getting on for £4k these days.

Sorry for the long reply but I did want to give a balanced view on the whole tale.

Conclusion would I use JPC again?

A gaurded yes.

Am I asking them to quote for some electrical work on Sally this year?

No

Rod

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I was speaking to Andy on Saturday, Informing me that you can get Remote control Bow / Aft Thrusters.

JPC installed Bow and Aft on a remote control, the owner stood on the bank and the boat came to him, he jumped on and off he went.

Remote control Boats hey !

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Hi Brian,

Remote control Bow and Stern thrusters are not new.

A Lot of the larger offshore boats use them and in my field they are pretty common.

What they havent figured out on boats is how to control the engine.

Bow and Stern Thrusters will only move a boat sideways not fore and aft.

Andy does like to tell a tale :liar:naughty::oops:

Rod

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What they havent figured out on boats is how to control the engine.

They have with IPS and the new Mercruiser job for stern drives, means you can drive the boat in joystick mode without being anywhere near the helm.

Don't know what the range is but wouldn't like to see the results if you sent it a bit to far :cry

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Hi,Rod,

have finally got my BT fitted by Broom Boats of Brundall,simon there engineer has done a fantastic job the neatness of the wiring is exceptional,he also found some 12 volt wiring near the batteries which were dodgy which had some glass 1970's fuses fitted and could have caused a meltdown in certain situations. The bilge pump was on the same wiring as the fridge can you believe that.The thruster engine is from Volvo and is fitted within about 5/6 foot from the bows due to a fairly new design whereas instead of it being vertical it is horizontal.It has its own dedicated battery situated only about 4 feet from the engine. When they started they had to cut a large portion away of the hull (which alarmed me at the time,bit like chopping your arm off) then fitting a long tunnel to get better effect then getting a specialist local company in to finish fibreglassing it all in a neat aerodynamic shape.looks good,apparently its the first time they have done it on a bounty 37 due no doubt to the very little room that they have to fit it but with the new engine it became easier you only need a clearance of less than a foot under the floorboards. all in all a very profesional job done and cost me in total £2,850 can't wait to use it.Would recommend them.also me thinks they will have a few more to do before long as there are a lot of Bountys out there.

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Bowthrusters ....... Now what do you need them for then ??? :naughty::naughty::twisted:

Mark,if you saw me coming out of my berth you would know why it was getting very difficult to turn into the wind when strong as i have only limited room behind me then straight away i am in trouble with the wind blowing me sideways down the Marina towards some anchors sticking out on the bigger boats how i missed hitting one of them and taking the top off the roof must have been sheer luck.

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Took the boat back to the mooring after being on land for a few months and i must say the new Bowthruster surprised me at its power and ability to move the bows so quickly it is the Volvo CT600 version which is a 4KW motor and very powerful to will have some fun using it i am sure.

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