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  1. 8 points
    The law may be that waste generated from a hire boat is the responsibility of the operator, but as is clearly the case here; the law is an ass. There is not one hirer out there that is going to save up all their waste on a week's holiday to return it to the hiring base. There would not be space on the boat for it and it would become a hazard; quickly. Any council that cannot see this is deserving of the derision it will receive. Waste disposal costs a small fortune each year for my small business; I dread to think how much Richardson's pay for the numerous dumpster skips around the Stalham site alone. This is a hidden cost to the business that most hirers won't even think about. As these costs to the business increases, so too must the hire charge or have an off-set in savings. Perhaps there's no wage increases or a redundancy, or something similar. The point is that all these things have to be paid for somehow and the council removing any such service simply creates a problem elsewhere which, ultimately, is likely to affect the council's income somewhere else that is almost certainly no less dramatic than the initial saving but soooooo much harder to detect.
  2. 7 points
    The cost of waste removal from these sites is a tiny amount from the council's budgets in real terms. It has already been proven (i am told) that the cost of clearing up fly-tipped rubbish at Potter heigham is greater than emptying the bins. A moron could have predicted this to start with, but our elected officials didn't want to see the obvious. So much of the local economy relies on tourism and these councils are making it less and less attractive for tourists. I know there are pressures on money; we all have to deal with that (so Westminster tells us (unless you're Vodaphone, Apple, Amazon, Starbucks et al)), but kicking an industry that is so dependent on disposable income is counter-productive.
  3. 6 points
    It is worth complaining. The problem is that not nearly enough people complained for long enough. The people of this country are not nearly good enough at protesting. We tend to accept the status quo and simply bitch about without great effect and then vote the buggers back in when it comes to elections and so the cycle starts again. Make your voices heard, because nobody will take any damn notice if you don't. Perhaps start here: https://www.northnorfolk.org/council/5078.asp https://www.facebook.com/NorthNorfolkDC/ Contact Norman Lamb http://www.normanlamb.org.uk/
  4. 5 points
    My email to Brandon Lewis.. Good afternoon It has been brought to my attention that there are no facilities for the boating fraternity in Gt Yarmouth. This is also reflected across the Broads as a whole and it an utter disgrace. If you wish to attract visitors whether they be from the hire craft section or the privateer section you have to provide facilities for people to dispose of their rubbish. To say that a hirer has to 'take his rubbish home with him/her' is ludicrous. I can picture the glossy magazines promoting holidays on the broads with boats showing mountains of black sacks on the back of them due to the lack of facilities. This is 2016 not the 17th Century, do we really want people to dump their rubbish (which they will) in the rivers and banks and attract rats and plague. I do think the Councils in this region have been very short sighted in all of this. Dont say to me you have not got the money, you have when it is suits. The Broads is a thriving holiday destination, let us keep it so.
  5. 5 points
    Hi Dave I agree with you re EA like you have plenty of dealings with them and as you say they do and will prosecute but clearing of waste is the Local authorities responsibility perhaps when rubbish gets left in heaps where waste bins once where the EA will prosecute the local authority. I also agree the law is there to stop rubbish dumping where I disagree is the point personnel waste becomes trade waste in the boatyard yes it is the boatyards responsibility to dispose within the law I do not think the boatyard as a responsibility in respect of waste disposed by individual whilst hiring one of there craft, if you took that to an extreme car hire companies wold be responsible for waste generated in there carsThe The real issue is that if local authorities around the broads want to promote tourism to generate income within there area they need to provide facilities for the tourist the cost of which is very small compared with revenue generated Ray
  6. 4 points
    It doesn't matter what the rules, the regulations, or the laws say, the simple fact is that people whoever they are be some hirers, private owners, fishermen etc will simply dump their rubbish. Just like some people do when they hit the restrictions of their local tip. Then 'we' still have to pay for the clear up whether it be through tax, rates or in this case may be tolls. There is no winner! But in the meantime the beauty of the environment will suffer!
  7. 4 points
    I complained to NN council Email to ( yourviewscount@north-norfolk.gov.uk ).. I guess our boat is moored in their council.. We had to bring our rubbish home.. The compactor at ranworth is no more. Personally I don't think it's fair on my council to bring back rubbish.. Rubbish made in norfolk.. Norfolks problem. Perhaps we do need a complain but I feel lots of people moan on forums and facebook but don't moan any further so it won't be filled out. As Andy said eveyone needs to complain direct to the councils..
  8. 4 points
    May I try and put another slant on this from a purely hirer's perspective, especially IF I were a rookie hirer. Not a clue WHERE to dispose of boat rubbish. What would any self respective person do? Correct go to where you would expect bins to be. Take for example at Stokesby, there is a compound now bereft of bins, the hirer started said holiday at Acle the day before. There is NO boatyard there, but for over 40 years, I personally used that compound. The facility has been removed, but Dave says the boatyards should pay for the service, at Stokesby too? I think not! Heads require being knocked together across ALL Broadland councils etc, and get this mess sorted PDQ! All bins should be reinstated, so we can holiday in a clean and pleasant land. Well a bloke can dream. Iain
  9. 3 points
    It amazes me that when a council is told it has to save x amount of cash the immediate response is " we will have to cut services" I always thought that the council was there to "provide a service" ( that's what I was told when I worked for one) Why should members of the public suffer ? A much simpler solution would be to cut the number of managers and section heads in the council. It seems to me that everyone who works for a council has their own individual manager. I find it difficult to understand how a wrapper taken off a product can be classed as both trade and domestic waste. If I eat a packet of crisps in the street it is domestic waste but if I eat it on a hire boat it is trade waste ???? The mind boggles. Jeff
  10. 3 points
    At least this is marginally better and more fun than reading about Jenners basin!! But please do not blame the BA - it is no more the BA's responsibility than is the quality of the water which Anglian Water discharges into the rivers!! i agree it may seem to make some sense for the BA to provide these facilities but why should the BA be forced to pay for something which the Authority have no legal responsibility for and which in reality local Councils are merely trying to dump their responsibility for? It does of course, to the Councils, appear to be the path of least resistance i guess.
  11. 3 points
    Dave Just one final thought you rightly state the bins on Great Yarmouth sea front are for domestic waste therefore MR and Mrs Smith staying at a Guest House in Great Yarmouth can put waste in a bin on the sea front as domestic waste but the same couple on a hire craft put waste in a bin at Reedham and the Hire company should pay as trade waste totally wrong Ray
  12. 3 points
    No wonder anything is never completed on time, on budget and free from defaults, we are governed by red tape, elf & Safety to an extent that it is almost impossible to work. With regards to bins be they trade or domestic there is no national conformity regarding the colour which is used for the type of rubbish, also in some areas bins have been withdrawn even though the the authorities have not met their quota on recycling. When we have been on holiday in areas of the country a number of the holiday lets leave exempt bags which any rubbish can be placed, this saves holiday makers the effort and confusion regarding the various bins in operation. When we were young we were taught to put your litter in a bin or put it in your pocket till you got home, sadly that is not the case these days, there is rubbish everywhere. There are more dog waste bins than litter bins on our estates or parks. When will the government and local authorities get it into their heads that the majority want and need services. Regards Alan
  13. 3 points
    Holidaymakers like myself bring a lot of revenue to the area holidaymakers stop coming revenue goes down Boatyards and Shops close revenue goes down I live near Folkestone in Kent exactly what as happened there Ray
  14. 3 points
    Congrats Poppy, my youngest grandson was 11 on Christmas day....... my oldest takes me to the pub at times lol
  15. 3 points
    Sorry chaps but this time I strongly feel that the BA should be providing some sort of facility. The BA want control of our tolls, registration, the moorings, planning, development, Thorpe Island, dredging, Breydon water and every other possible facet of our Broads based boating experience. But not rubbish?!! Now come on here. This rubbish is generated from our usage of the system for which we pay the Broads Authority a substantial fee, each and every one of us. And they cant provide something as simple as refuse management? I ask because I feel I am seeing less and less in the way of service from BA for my pound of flesh yet the costs of the license are more and more each year. With her excellent sea keeping qualitles perhaps SOB could be used to transport our rubbish and dump it at sea? Its probably the only job its actually capable of doing well
  16. 3 points
    Charlie, don't wish those first two years away. Grab and enjoy every opportunity that comes your way. This is my latest, nine month old Eddie. By the way, Poppy, congratulation. Are you building a cot in the forepeak?
  17. 3 points
  18. 2 points
    If I was to pay to dispose of my rubbish would that then make it trade waste. If that is the case couldn't we have waste bins/compactors that could be activated with a disposable card like the electric cards we use. Hire companies could then provide some with every hire and private boats could purchase them too if we wished. I would rather pay 50p or £1 to dispose of a bag of rotting, wasp attracting rubbish than store it on my back deck for a week in August. The thought of having to travel any distance with a weeks worth of rubbish in the boot is just not on. This idea probably won't happen as it will be too costly to setup. Anyone got any good ideas other than trying to force the councils to do their job. Colin
  19. 2 points
    I have sent a rather scathing Email to that link provided by Andy. The next one will go Norman Lamb and be followed by one to Look East. Come on people, lets get this moving NOW!!
  20. 2 points
    Poppy, you need one of these
  21. 2 points
    How cute is that........I defy anyone not to fall completely in love with little Eddie, he is adoreable lovely picture JM, thanks for posting Grace
  22. 1 point
    At work we create waste and my bosses have to pay to have it taken away but on the whole what is the difference between our rubbish created in our own homes and that when on a boat or a holiday let. The difference in most cases though it doesn't get recycled?
  23. 1 point
    Dave Whilst I accept what you say as fact as I said earlier I cannot see the EA attempting to bring a prosecution against a boatyard in respect of one of there clients putting rubbish in a waste bin at say Reedham. I agree that any waste from any buisness is trade waste therefore if a family hires a cottage and goes out on a picnic and puts waste in a bin the owner of the let is responsible in law and could therefore be prosecuted similarly the rules would apply to vehicle hire companies companies who hire out motor homes caravans etc Even the EA who as you say will be prosecute anything would not risk that type of prosecution. We still get back to the fact it is the Local Authority who are responsible for collecting domestic waste including general and fly tipped waste The EA only as the responsibility of ensuring it is disposed of correctly If as you say boatyards should set up a separate network and pay for it what about the other trade users holiday let's etc would just get ridiculous. surely if each local authority accepts as in general they do that waste deposited in there area is there responsibility to collect we do not have a problem if the authorities in Norfolk was to promote tourism as I said before the cost is a very small price to pay in respect of the overall income generated through tourists visiting the area. I think I have said enough on this subject Ray
  24. 1 point
    I think you will find that it is the land owner who ends up having to deal with fly tipping on the river bank, no wonder both wild and formal moorings go. Not to mention fires and abandoned bar-b-que rubbish.
  25. 1 point
    I in no way condone the dumping of rubbish on the river bank - however it is happening already, and will now get worse. Reporting any sightings to the Environmental Health department of the appropriate Council will cause them considerable nuisance , since once reported they have an obligation to deal with it ! http://www.environmentlaw.org.uk/rte.asp?id=29
  26. 1 point
    I do have a bad habit of writing as if I'm thinking it which usually means it's unreadable it's a good job they can't get in my head yet
  27. 1 point
    Turn it on the ropes using the current to help, easily done if you start the right end, if not on the main river still not dificult to do.
  28. 1 point
    Again all this discussion is all very well, but at the end of the day the river banks are going to be covered in heaps of stinking rubbish. It was bad enough before so many bins/skips were removed, now the situation well only be made worse. No good objecting, it was tried when GY council stated the ball rolling a couple of years ago. The money saved by the councils, like Broadland, goes to producing their glossy quarterly magazine telling you how well they are doing!
  29. 1 point
    Wrong, if you look at the road map just outside Kilmarnock on the A77/ M77 you will find the village of MOSCOW See I wasn't kidding lol Iain
  30. 1 point
    Hi Matt, Is that the latest tender Regards Alan
  31. 1 point
    These look a bit familiar!
  32. 1 point
    Perhaps this is a conservation exercise? No bin lorries being used, improves the air quality! It's pathetic the lot of it IMHO. Iain
  33. 1 point
    You are getting what you voted for - or at least what 24.9% of the electorate voted for.......
  34. 1 point
    Just home from my son's home where we have spent a few days helping out around the time of the birth of my new grandson and hopefully crewman eventually. Dylan John was born on Tuesday, at a very healthy 7lb 9oz, mother and baby doing well. I'm ecstatic!
  35. 1 point
    Eric, Well of course I knew that, honestly Grace
  36. 1 point
    They're winding you up Grace. There's a village not far from Iain that is called Moscow.
  37. 1 point
    Are you sure he didnt mean Moss Grows rather than Moscow lol goes n hides
  38. 1 point
    "I was sure Grace would ask about Moscow" I do believe Moscow is....... a major political, economic, cultural and scientific centre of Russia and Eastern Europe, is the capital and the largest city of Russia. 12.2 million residents within the city limits and 16.8 million within the urban area. .............................. Really no need to ask about Moscow Grace
  39. 1 point
    Steve a couple of questions? 1- have you already convinced your good lady to do the dinghy thing? 2- do you have a good video camera? I am assuming you will be on deck videoing the splashing action?
  40. 1 point
    I wouldn't be too sure of that! Dry fly on an exclusive beat on the River Test ,or several thousand for just one fishing pole, can stretch the budget more than a little!
  41. 1 point
    This is the age they are great fun, This is Knight, my handsome 4 year old grandson, just won his first competition. From his natural pose, I need to save up for posh boy school fees.
  42. 1 point
    Thanks, Gracie, both Charlie/Griff & Poppy have this to look forward to, lucky them!
  43. 1 point
    Congrats Poppy - Cracking photo. I'm a grandad of seven weeks or so now and proper chuffed, however I have to admit I'm not really a 'Baby' type person but am much looking forward to years 2+ and upwards Griff
  44. 1 point
    This toxic mixture of Lefties, Liberals and Greens are the idiots who classify paint as a "hazardous waste" and only allow you to dispose of it on special "amnesty days" when the whole of North Norfolk queues for hours to dispose of a part can of brilliant white emulsion at a designated waste disposal site. More seriously, I have written to North Norfolk District Council to ask how I, as a private boater with a "home" mooring which has no waste disposal facilities and nowhere to even store rubbish, is supposed to have a week's holiday on my boat. I eagerly await their response, but suspect that I may be waiting for a very long time. Grrrrrrrrr Steve
  45. 1 point
    I wrote this about 4 weeks ago on a Broads related FB group, my opinions have not changed so have simply copied and pasted!!! "I just find the whole situation ludicrous. In one breath councils and the BA are trying to promote tourism and then in another breath they are trying to turn or allowing the Broads to turn into a giant rubbish dump. It doesn't add up no one on holiday wants to take their rubbish home (what if they came by train?). It's going to be put in the first convenient place ...... And to close all the public conveniences....."
  46. 1 point
    My warmest Congratulations to you and your family, Pops , he's absolutely beautiful Grace
  47. 1 point
  48. 1 point
    walker rubber used to be the best place and local ..... http://www.walker-rubber.co.uk/ http://www.walker-rubber.co.uk/category/extrusions/#.Vo6_pf3nnIU
  49. 1 point
    Just found this thread Charlie, great pictures. As to where, could you be in Loynes dyke with the frame work for what became their building sheds seen in the background of this photo ? This is now Peninsular Cottages.
  50. 1 point
    This time Mum and Dad have swapped over locations, there is more clues as to where the location is, there can be seen next to Vernons shoulder 'E S' could be Wroxham and Jack Powles maybe? Griff
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