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  1. 8 points
    The law may be that waste generated from a hire boat is the responsibility of the operator, but as is clearly the case here; the law is an ass. There is not one hirer out there that is going to save up all their waste on a week's holiday to return it to the hiring base. There would not be space on the boat for it and it would become a hazard; quickly. Any council that cannot see this is deserving of the derision it will receive. Waste disposal costs a small fortune each year for my small business; I dread to think how much Richardson's pay for the numerous dumpster skips around the Stalham site alone. This is a hidden cost to the business that most hirers won't even think about. As these costs to the business increases, so too must the hire charge or have an off-set in savings. Perhaps there's no wage increases or a redundancy, or something similar. The point is that all these things have to be paid for somehow and the council removing any such service simply creates a problem elsewhere which, ultimately, is likely to affect the council's income somewhere else that is almost certainly no less dramatic than the initial saving but soooooo much harder to detect.
  2. 7 points
    The cost of waste removal from these sites is a tiny amount from the council's budgets in real terms. It has already been proven (i am told) that the cost of clearing up fly-tipped rubbish at Potter heigham is greater than emptying the bins. A moron could have predicted this to start with, but our elected officials didn't want to see the obvious. So much of the local economy relies on tourism and these councils are making it less and less attractive for tourists. I know there are pressures on money; we all have to deal with that (so Westminster tells us (unless you're Vodaphone, Apple, Amazon, Starbucks et al)), but kicking an industry that is so dependent on disposable income is counter-productive.
  3. 6 points
    It is worth complaining. The problem is that not nearly enough people complained for long enough. The people of this country are not nearly good enough at protesting. We tend to accept the status quo and simply bitch about without great effect and then vote the buggers back in when it comes to elections and so the cycle starts again. Make your voices heard, because nobody will take any damn notice if you don't. Perhaps start here: https://www.northnorfolk.org/council/5078.asp https://www.facebook.com/NorthNorfolkDC/ Contact Norman Lamb http://www.normanlamb.org.uk/
  4. 5 points
    My email to Brandon Lewis.. Good afternoon It has been brought to my attention that there are no facilities for the boating fraternity in Gt Yarmouth. This is also reflected across the Broads as a whole and it an utter disgrace. If you wish to attract visitors whether they be from the hire craft section or the privateer section you have to provide facilities for people to dispose of their rubbish. To say that a hirer has to 'take his rubbish home with him/her' is ludicrous. I can picture the glossy magazines promoting holidays on the broads with boats showing mountains of black sacks on the back of them due to the lack of facilities. This is 2016 not the 17th Century, do we really want people to dump their rubbish (which they will) in the rivers and banks and attract rats and plague. I do think the Councils in this region have been very short sighted in all of this. Dont say to me you have not got the money, you have when it is suits. The Broads is a thriving holiday destination, let us keep it so.
  5. 5 points
    Hi Dave I agree with you re EA like you have plenty of dealings with them and as you say they do and will prosecute but clearing of waste is the Local authorities responsibility perhaps when rubbish gets left in heaps where waste bins once where the EA will prosecute the local authority. I also agree the law is there to stop rubbish dumping where I disagree is the point personnel waste becomes trade waste in the boatyard yes it is the boatyards responsibility to dispose within the law I do not think the boatyard as a responsibility in respect of waste disposed by individual whilst hiring one of there craft, if you took that to an extreme car hire companies wold be responsible for waste generated in there carsThe The real issue is that if local authorities around the broads want to promote tourism to generate income within there area they need to provide facilities for the tourist the cost of which is very small compared with revenue generated Ray
  6. 5 points
    I am sorry Dave I totally disagree with you. the Hire companies have a responsibility as trade waste to deal with waste from there yard and by inference left on craft vacated by hirer's waste generated by individuals on craft is not trade waste are you saying people are now trade Hirer's any way only for a percentage of people who use waste bins what about private boaters fisherman tourists and local,s out for the day These sites provide a service to the Public in general not just hirer's of craft they are therefore the local authorities responsibility and as Andy states given the small cost they are extremely good value for money the alternative is waste will be dumped at sites with no bins and the local authority will face even greater cost ib clearing fly tipping I bet no local authority or BA are brave enough to try a prosecution for disposal of so called trade waste from hire craft in court. Having run a waste disposal buisness in a previous life I am well aware of the rules Ray Ray
  7. 4 points
    It doesn't matter what the rules, the regulations, or the laws say, the simple fact is that people whoever they are be some hirers, private owners, fishermen etc will simply dump their rubbish. Just like some people do when they hit the restrictions of their local tip. Then 'we' still have to pay for the clear up whether it be through tax, rates or in this case may be tolls. There is no winner! But in the meantime the beauty of the environment will suffer!
  8. 4 points
    I complained to NN council Email to ( yourviewscount@north-norfolk.gov.uk ).. I guess our boat is moored in their council.. We had to bring our rubbish home.. The compactor at ranworth is no more. Personally I don't think it's fair on my council to bring back rubbish.. Rubbish made in norfolk.. Norfolks problem. Perhaps we do need a complain but I feel lots of people moan on forums and facebook but don't moan any further so it won't be filled out. As Andy said eveyone needs to complain direct to the councils..
  9. 4 points
    May I try and put another slant on this from a purely hirer's perspective, especially IF I were a rookie hirer. Not a clue WHERE to dispose of boat rubbish. What would any self respective person do? Correct go to where you would expect bins to be. Take for example at Stokesby, there is a compound now bereft of bins, the hirer started said holiday at Acle the day before. There is NO boatyard there, but for over 40 years, I personally used that compound. The facility has been removed, but Dave says the boatyards should pay for the service, at Stokesby too? I think not! Heads require being knocked together across ALL Broadland councils etc, and get this mess sorted PDQ! All bins should be reinstated, so we can holiday in a clean and pleasant land. Well a bloke can dream. Iain
  10. 4 points
    It may sound simple to you Dave, but folks do not come on holiday to spend all day searching for bins, a BASIC COMMODITY or should be, for gods are it's now 2016 not the dark ages, or is it? Three disposal areas is despicable and anti holidaymakers, boatyard waste or not! Aye and anti privateers too! Iain
  11. 3 points
    It amazes me that when a council is told it has to save x amount of cash the immediate response is " we will have to cut services" I always thought that the council was there to "provide a service" ( that's what I was told when I worked for one) Why should members of the public suffer ? A much simpler solution would be to cut the number of managers and section heads in the council. It seems to me that everyone who works for a council has their own individual manager. I find it difficult to understand how a wrapper taken off a product can be classed as both trade and domestic waste. If I eat a packet of crisps in the street it is domestic waste but if I eat it on a hire boat it is trade waste ???? The mind boggles. Jeff
  12. 3 points
    At least this is marginally better and more fun than reading about Jenners basin!! But please do not blame the BA - it is no more the BA's responsibility than is the quality of the water which Anglian Water discharges into the rivers!! i agree it may seem to make some sense for the BA to provide these facilities but why should the BA be forced to pay for something which the Authority have no legal responsibility for and which in reality local Councils are merely trying to dump their responsibility for? It does of course, to the Councils, appear to be the path of least resistance i guess.
  13. 3 points
    This is a subject that has been around for the last couple of years, only the situation is now getting ridiculous. As a private boater who spends a few weeks at a time on the rivers, refuse disposal is becoming a nightmare. With the amount of packaging now on goods, it does not take very long to fill a bin bag which has to be stored somewhere on the boat - maybe for days until a bin can be found. Hire yards do not take kindly to private craft depositing rubbish in their bins, quite understandably. But then ours is not classed as 'trade waste' so shouldn't go in hire yard bins anyway! It is certainly not fair on the holidaymaker on any boat to have to cart smelly rubbish around for days, what about young families with a baby or large families who will naturally create more waste? And dog owners who do the decent thing and clear up after their animals? (It's no wonder we now see poo bags left hanging in bushes although that is something that really makes me angry.) We can talk about this ad infinitum or we can try and do something about it. I'm not sure where or who one should write to and start the ball rolling - local councils, MPs, BA? Start a petition? Anybody any ideas?
  14. 3 points
    Dave Just one final thought you rightly state the bins on Great Yarmouth sea front are for domestic waste therefore MR and Mrs Smith staying at a Guest House in Great Yarmouth can put waste in a bin on the sea front as domestic waste but the same couple on a hire craft put waste in a bin at Reedham and the Hire company should pay as trade waste totally wrong Ray
  15. 3 points
    No wonder anything is never completed on time, on budget and free from defaults, we are governed by red tape, elf & Safety to an extent that it is almost impossible to work. With regards to bins be they trade or domestic there is no national conformity regarding the colour which is used for the type of rubbish, also in some areas bins have been withdrawn even though the the authorities have not met their quota on recycling. When we have been on holiday in areas of the country a number of the holiday lets leave exempt bags which any rubbish can be placed, this saves holiday makers the effort and confusion regarding the various bins in operation. When we were young we were taught to put your litter in a bin or put it in your pocket till you got home, sadly that is not the case these days, there is rubbish everywhere. There are more dog waste bins than litter bins on our estates or parks. When will the government and local authorities get it into their heads that the majority want and need services. Regards Alan
  16. 3 points
    At Potter heigham they have a huge barge that goes up and down the river several times a week collecting bags of rubbish and emptying toilet tanks. The Boat is called Louise (loo ease). I can see our boats all looking similar to Louise with mountains of rubbish sacks on the back of each hire , and private boat. I cannot see that publicity of this kind is going to attract many holiday makers. I would like to hear on here from the likes of Clive at Richardsons. I am sure they provide facilities for the disposal of boat rubbish and Herbert Woods for example, however, who is going to be next to a large organisation every day and rubbish needs to be disposed of every day , especially in hot weather. We have gone completely backwards this is 2016 not 1816. When our population starts to get diseases that were common in the 17 hundreds then may be the people in charge will realise what a nonsense all this cutting back of bins is. Rats and the plague come to mind.
  17. 3 points
    Dave You are correct it is not The Broads Authorities responsibility to deal with waste but it is the responsibility of the Local Authorities to deal with it. Most of the waste generated from Boats on the Broads is from goods purchased from buisness and shops in the broads area therefore the local authority in that area should deal with it Most hire yards have waste bins in there yard for which they pay for disposal why then should they pay more also remember they pay additional licensing fees for there craft anyway Ray
  18. 3 points
    This is my other grandson, whose chosen sport is sadly not sailing - but he enjoys fencing, and is doing very well at it!
  19. 3 points
    Holidaymakers like myself bring a lot of revenue to the area holidaymakers stop coming revenue goes down Boatyards and Shops close revenue goes down I live near Folkestone in Kent exactly what as happened there Ray
  20. 3 points
    When the BA came along we were in the grip of the great recession of the early 80's. About the first thing they did was to start handing out section 52 agreements like get-out-of-jail cards. As long as you were closing down a boatyard you could build what you liked. But 10 years later, oh dear! No more boatyards and no more service. These yards were the engine room of Broads commerce. If you wanted to empty your bins, you went to a boatyard, where you also got free overnight moorings, free water, free toilets and often showers, ice bottles and a repair service. You could even post your mail. And we DID pay commercial rates to the council. What hire companies that are left are the big ones, with a lot of boats centred on just one yard. That is not the same service structure. Sorry, but it was the BA's policy to get rid of this infrastructure so now they must make up for it.
  21. 3 points
    Congrats Poppy, my youngest grandson was 11 on Christmas day....... my oldest takes me to the pub at times lol
  22. 3 points
    Sorry chaps but this time I strongly feel that the BA should be providing some sort of facility. The BA want control of our tolls, registration, the moorings, planning, development, Thorpe Island, dredging, Breydon water and every other possible facet of our Broads based boating experience. But not rubbish?!! Now come on here. This rubbish is generated from our usage of the system for which we pay the Broads Authority a substantial fee, each and every one of us. And they cant provide something as simple as refuse management? I ask because I feel I am seeing less and less in the way of service from BA for my pound of flesh yet the costs of the license are more and more each year. With her excellent sea keeping qualitles perhaps SOB could be used to transport our rubbish and dump it at sea? Its probably the only job its actually capable of doing well
  23. 3 points
    Charlie, don't wish those first two years away. Grab and enjoy every opportunity that comes your way. This is my latest, nine month old Eddie. By the way, Poppy, congratulation. Are you building a cot in the forepeak?
  24. 3 points
  25. 2 points
    As some of you will know as well as clay shooting I also game shoot during the season. I am of course very aware that there are those, some within these hallowed walls that are against the ethos of game shooting, this is only to be expected, however some folk have never been educated in the ethos of the sport. The attached is a documentary film that one of our 'guns' sons did recently for his university degree,during the month of November 2015. There was a team of four of them. They took over ten hours footage and have edited it down to 20 odd minutes. the title of the film is 'Aim of the Game' it was filmed on location at our local game shoot 'Bancroft Farm' of which we are members. You will see amongst others, me and my lad Dale (I had the whiskers for the 'Movember' cancer thing) and of course our Macie dog doing her thing. For those that have not seen Macie, in the film she is the light coloured Retriever, there is a particular good shot of her carrying a partridge. Anyroadup, I ask you to sit back and watch the short film with an open mind, you might enjoy it and might learn something too, feedback is welcome Herewith:- Also herewith 3 x generations (And our Macie dog) taken today at the same shoot location, (Dale was not shooting today) Griff
  26. 2 points
    If I was to pay to dispose of my rubbish would that then make it trade waste. If that is the case couldn't we have waste bins/compactors that could be activated with a disposable card like the electric cards we use. Hire companies could then provide some with every hire and private boats could purchase them too if we wished. I would rather pay 50p or £1 to dispose of a bag of rotting, wasp attracting rubbish than store it on my back deck for a week in August. The thought of having to travel any distance with a weeks worth of rubbish in the boot is just not on. This idea probably won't happen as it will be too costly to setup. Anyone got any good ideas other than trying to force the councils to do their job. Colin
  27. 2 points
    I have sent a rather scathing Email to that link provided by Andy. The next one will go Norman Lamb and be followed by one to Look East. Come on people, lets get this moving NOW!!
  28. 2 points
    Mark, I like the hoody! In this house it would probably have to read, 'If Granny can't knit you one then no one can'. My two year old Ella with her crocheted BB8 Droid hat & toy: Grandkids, wonderful institution.
  29. 2 points
    Poppy, you need one of these
  30. 2 points
    How cute is that........I defy anyone not to fall completely in love with little Eddie, he is adoreable lovely picture JM, thanks for posting Grace
  31. 2 points
    A tourist area that the local authorities and Broads Authority have turned their backs on with regards to basic facilities such as waste disposal and pubic toilets, they all should be ashamed of themselves. Most of the private owners can save up their rubbish if they are only going out on day trips from their moorings assuming their home mooring provide these facilities. We tend to leave the marina and stop out all week unless we have guests or are training people. The people hiring the hire-boats go out for all their week or fortnight, will not be best pleased after spending all of their hard earned money to be in an area with fly tipped litter all over the place. Litter is a problem that effect us all and overfull or none existent bins costs more in the long run with heavy bills for clearing up operations by the councils. The Broads is a place of beauty everyone needs to help keep it that way. Regards Alan
  32. 2 points
    God chefs know that they need slow cooking, perhaps even all deity.
  33. 1 point
    Ok, herewith just one slide photo scanned by Bro' and sent over this evening. The year was either 1966 or 67. The boat is Admiral Seven. Location - unknown From left to right, Dave, Candy Dog, Mum, Uncle Vernon, Andrew Fisher, Grandma Griffin, Howard Griffin, Into the dinghy Eddie, and ME! (Griff) We are guessing as to the year as Howard born May 64 so make your own minds up. from the photo only 3 x people still alive, Me, Bro and Eddie Griff
  34. 1 point
    Siddy As I stayed previously I am commenting no further on the trade/ domestic waste issue but re council tax the small amount it costs to provide bins for tourism in general in Norfolk is far outweighed by the income generated by businesses selling to tourists this generates rates/tax that helps reduce council tax Norfolk is a beautiful county I am sure we all agree and tourism is one of if not it's primary source of revenue and employment Ray
  35. 1 point
    Dave Whilst I accept what you say as fact as I said earlier I cannot see the EA attempting to bring a prosecution against a boatyard in respect of one of there clients putting rubbish in a waste bin at say Reedham. I agree that any waste from any buisness is trade waste therefore if a family hires a cottage and goes out on a picnic and puts waste in a bin the owner of the let is responsible in law and could therefore be prosecuted similarly the rules would apply to vehicle hire companies companies who hire out motor homes caravans etc Even the EA who as you say will be prosecute anything would not risk that type of prosecution. We still get back to the fact it is the Local Authority who are responsible for collecting domestic waste including general and fly tipped waste The EA only as the responsibility of ensuring it is disposed of correctly If as you say boatyards should set up a separate network and pay for it what about the other trade users holiday let's etc would just get ridiculous. surely if each local authority accepts as in general they do that waste deposited in there area is there responsibility to collect we do not have a problem if the authorities in Norfolk was to promote tourism as I said before the cost is a very small price to pay in respect of the overall income generated through tourists visiting the area. I think I have said enough on this subject Ray
  36. 1 point
    I think you will find that it is the land owner who ends up having to deal with fly tipping on the river bank, no wonder both wild and formal moorings go. Not to mention fires and abandoned bar-b-que rubbish.
  37. 1 point
    Again all this discussion is all very well, but at the end of the day the river banks are going to be covered in heaps of stinking rubbish. It was bad enough before so many bins/skips were removed, now the situation well only be made worse. No good objecting, it was tried when GY council stated the ball rolling a couple of years ago. The money saved by the councils, like Broadland, goes to producing their glossy quarterly magazine telling you how well they are doing!
  38. 1 point
    Perhaps this is a conservation exercise? No bin lorries being used, improves the air quality! It's pathetic the lot of it IMHO. Iain
  39. 1 point
    You are getting what you voted for - or at least what 24.9% of the electorate voted for.......
  40. 1 point
    You may well go and hide Charlie but i know exactly what I mean't, thank you very much, at least, that's what it says on the internet anyway Grace
  41. 1 point
    Are you sure he didnt mean Moss Grows rather than Moscow lol goes n hides
  42. 1 point
    "I was sure Grace would ask about Moscow" I do believe Moscow is....... a major political, economic, cultural and scientific centre of Russia and Eastern Europe, is the capital and the largest city of Russia. 12.2 million residents within the city limits and 16.8 million within the urban area. .............................. Really no need to ask about Moscow Grace
  43. 1 point
    Steve a couple of questions? 1- have you already convinced your good lady to do the dinghy thing? 2- do you have a good video camera? I am assuming you will be on deck videoing the splashing action?
  44. 1 point
    It is always a pity to me, you cannot have grandchildren before children. With grandchildren you can really enjoy getting them over excited then handing them back to the parents. Congrats. paul
  45. 1 point
    I wrote this about 4 weeks ago on a Broads related FB group, my opinions have not changed so have simply copied and pasted!!! "I just find the whole situation ludicrous. In one breath councils and the BA are trying to promote tourism and then in another breath they are trying to turn or allowing the Broads to turn into a giant rubbish dump. It doesn't add up no one on holiday wants to take their rubbish home (what if they came by train?). It's going to be put in the first convenient place ...... And to close all the public conveniences....."
  46. 1 point
  47. 1 point
    There you go Eric. Iain.
  48. 1 point
    Just a thought. If it helps, hot water is very good at softening these plastic based rubbers when you fit them. Also works well on hoses that are a bit tight
  49. 1 point
    Just found this thread Charlie, great pictures. As to where, could you be in Loynes dyke with the frame work for what became their building sheds seen in the background of this photo ? This is now Peninsular Cottages.
  50. 1 point
    This time Mum and Dad have swapped over locations, there is more clues as to where the location is, there can be seen next to Vernons shoulder 'E S' could be Wroxham and Jack Powles maybe? Griff
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