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  1. 5 points
    Very best wishes to everyone for Christmas and the New Year, I'll be raising a Glass in memory of Iain our dear Broadscot on Christmas Day, still very much missed by us all . Carole
  2. 5 points
    "We have no data to know if the bridge at Potter has itself sunk and if it has by how much. In the 1970s there were steel braces and wooden dams over the two smaller archers - this was to try and stop the bridge 'spreading' outwards. I have no idea if this worked and that is why the bracing was removed, or if it did not and was just done to try and stop it." We do, indeed, have the data. Such data is collected regularly by Norfolk County Council Highways' Bridge Inspection team. Potter Bridge has not sunk since measurements were first recorded. The bridge was inspected again last month. I can vouch, too, for the fact that the recent spate of exceptionally low tides was just as evident above Potter Bridge as below it. The EA's Repps gauge almost certainly bottomed out as did the gauge in the Pilot's Office at Potter.
  3. 5 points
    I won't comment on the self styled Broads National Park tag but I will on this paragraph: c) protecting the right of navigation through the maintenance, improvement and development of the navigation area to such standard as appears to the Authority to be reasonably required. I have underlined the obvious flaw and ask 'can we really trust the Authority to judge standards in a manner that reflects the needs of their stakeholders rather than as a sop to the aspirations and agenda of the Authority's CEO? It's all about trust, or lack of, that is the crux of the matter.
  4. 4 points
    you can get a cream for that
  5. 4 points
    All that window frame hardwood timber, now de-nailed, screws / fastenings removed, ends squared up, ran the lot through my mates circular saw and planer. Now cleaned up and ready for taking down to Norfolk. Not bad for nowt, Griff
  6. 4 points
    John, the underlined text is open ended. The BA appears to be of the opinion that it should be able to set the standards as it sees fit, whether that standard be one of improvement or abandonment, so long as it appears to be reasonably required. JP has a long history of interpreting policy in a manner that supports whatever it is that he is currently promoting. Yes, it is sufficiently important as to warrant concern. If accepted as policy it would allow a level of control that would be open to abuse. What is reasonable to one man, JP for example, might be an anathema to the boating public. Unfortunately dealing with the present BA set up is like playing a game of chess, we need to be able to out-guess the power behind the hand by at least several moves ahead.
  7. 4 points
    Hi Marshman. I agree with some of your comment but both the expensive platforms with legs were there when we passed late October, as for long armed diggers. I'm sure extra ones could be leased at far less cost than contracting out to commercial concerns. I had thought that was the general idea. Maybe the BA should put pressure on the land owners to clear their own trees overhanging the rivers. This would free up more staff for dredging. At the end of the day, this discussion came about over a rare extreme low tide which generally occur each year at varying levels, the other 700+ tides will be within predicted heights. We could, of cause, still have weather that will cause flooding. For those that weren't here to see it. Our two boats at Thorpe. Kept a close eye on skin fittings as the tide rose. The outer boat,Lady Linda, was on the bottom too as there was far less than the 3ft she needs. The safety ladder is just touching the ninth rung. We only need five rungs to get 8ft clearance to get Lady Linda under the eastern bridge. Colin
  8. 3 points
  9. 3 points
    Just a tip on the Fray Bentos pies, leave them in the oven for an extra 10 minutes to the instructed time and this will make sure you get some crisp pastry on top of that lovely goey bit!
  10. 3 points
    It's a Canoe Jim, but not as we know it I'm not sure the well known Broadland canoeist Would have a clue either
  11. 3 points
    Canoes don't draw much....
  12. 3 points
    Wishing all forum members a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year full of perfect boating for next season. Regards Alan
  13. 3 points
    Ready meals on a boat? Been reading the thread with great interest and a lot of giggles Trouble with us is that we don't drive, so as much as I would love to pre-prepare and freeze "stuff", by the time we got to the boat it would be ruined as we have at least one night in Norwich beforehand. Anyway, Mr N 's appetite has been really rubbish this week, with his tooth problem and the fact that our holiday is coming to an end, so he asked me to get "something that would tempt a jaded palate" the other day. I got a frozen pepperoni pizza and a Fray Bentos tinned steak and kidney pie (yes, I know, it's possibly the lowest of the low, but it worked) from the shop at Reedham. Along with those, I got a packet of frozen veggie fingers for me, which to be honest, were really nice. Anything quick and nutritious is fantastic on a boat where A) you've got limited facilities, B) you're on holiday and C) you really can't be a*%ed to cook
  14. 3 points
    So now we know what 5000 cubic metres actually means in real terms in removed spoil / increased depth etc. (Big Thank you FairTmiddlin for educating us). As a poster said a fair while back, it is not enough, not nearly enough, just literally scratching the surface - Well bed to be precise. Just as I thought the Ba are doing the absolute bare minimum so we can actually navigate without touching bottom 'Hopefully'. Seems to me then that the 'Hump' will keep on slowly but surely increasing in size resulting in keeping the river levels in the Northerns artificially high - which in turns means even less dredging the Ba must carry out. The river from Marina Keys to the yellow post will get ever narrower and shallower resulting in increased speeds of ebbing water but with less volume going out to sea. We are all guilty of allowing this to happen by not pressurising the Ba enough. Mind you to be fair, that's kinda difficult when we are up against an unelected Quango that seems not to be accountable to anyone Griff
  15. 2 points
    Not to further BA bash, but doing piling and dredging for a living gives me some insight. 50000 cube, for an operation on that scale is pathetic. Toll payers are already paying for an efficient dredging solution, however (and this is fact rather than just BA bashing) certain individuals within the authority have decided on a preferred method irrelevant of efficiency.
  16. 2 points
    I always used to like custard, however we went to Tan's Dads house in Manchester, We had a meal and Mavis then came in with what we thought was apple pie and custard, I took a bit and was disappointed by the flavour. Custard tended not to go with potato and leak pie. Needless to say I do not eat onions and am allergic to garlic. Regards Alan
  17. 2 points
    This is worth a read, it should also be the yardstick for future projects: http://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/404268/Darkness_to_Light.pdf
  18. 2 points
    Dessert ?,....................... sorry, i thought that was a disease ....................................ok, i`m going.
  19. 2 points
    'Ready Meals' ? That's just one reason I have a MrsG. She prepares and then presents me with many meals that are ready Griff P.S - I too like Fray Bentos, and suet pudding - favourite dessert? - 'Spotted Dick'
  20. 2 points
    Waitrose Thai that could be all done in the oven was our favourite. Often eaten at Boundary Farm before a night nav back to Stalham and home. If eaten off good quality paper plates with Lathams plastic knives and forks the whole lot could go in a black plastic sack and into Broadsedge's dumpster bin. 20 mins later home!
  21. 2 points
    In fairness, Polly, the BA has set itself various minimums to work to. You sail, I sail, in doing so we tend to use what water is available to us. I quote from the December Broads Briefing: 'Recently, we have mobilised some rather impressive machinery to Hickling Broad and are busy dredging material from the navigation channel.' Please note the reference to the 'Navigation Channel', a channel that was originally created so visitors to Hickling could find the pub & the village, not as a limitation as to where folk could sail. The whole article makes it clear that the dredging is for conservation so I do wonder what account will be paying? That aside, are navigation channels going to become the norm? That we can only go where such channels exist, that we shall be excluded from areas that are not designated as such? They tried it on at Horsey! They certainly tried it on on Oulton Broad when they suggested that they needn't dredge the North Bay because the bay is outside the navigation channel. That argument failed when it was pointed out that Oulton Broad does not have a navigation channel.
  22. 2 points
    We used Pacific this year for the first time and can't fault anything, They were friendly, accommodating, efficient, and value for money. Though our boat wasn't by any stretch a new one, it was well maintained, clean and a pleasure to handle. We shall certainly return next time we holiday on the broads.
  23. 2 points
    Have you tried Paific Cruisers at Loddon? They have a varied range at sensible prices and are also adding more modern boats on an annual basis it seems. They will provide a very friendly and reliable service.
  24. 2 points
    We have had great service from Richardsons, Pacific, and Freedom. Find the boat that suits your needs and budget and go for it. We are trying Maycraft next year.
  25. 2 points
    Is that a fact, or are you having a guess?
  26. 2 points
    Peter, I have to say that I would have hugely more confidence in your posts if you were to use slightly less inflammatory language. Your distrust of the man in his position is well known and thoroughly documented, but your arguments would be so much better served if delivered with ice cold accuracy and facts without the personal rhetoric. I believe you are perfectly correct in highlighting that paragraph, and to ask if that which you have underlined is either good enough or indeed a reasonable standard to be targeted, further highlighting "appears to the authority to be reasonably required " I would further ask the doctor if he personally or as CEO of the BA, would do business with a company who had set that as a performance standard.
  27. 2 points
    I quite agree! I noticed the very same thing when I read the report. More political manoeuvres. I must say that the BA boundary could be tweaked a bit, for planning purposes, but not just for purposes of self aggrandisement.
  28. 2 points
    More avoidable old squit from Edwina! Please don't feel forced to read it if you don't want to but just remember, there's no smoke without fire! http://www.broadsnationalpike.com/2018/12/bonfire-of-councillors.html?fbclid=IwAR2nwpgqhuqSA5KTTtst9FyOKtA-NGtzIBb8xhjAPEigykCQ8XcOfpxnjRY
  29. 2 points
    Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you all looking forward to the May forum Get-together Because after the festivities we need something to look forward to, all the best Ted
  30. 2 points
    Hope his tooth gets better.I find one,two or may be 10 single malts help!
  31. 2 points
    Anything is possible, it comes down to motivation, need and money. The dredging that is done on the Broads in the main is reactive - concentrated on a specific area for a need. For example, a particular bend becomes especially silted and as a result of this is scheduled to have dredging undertaken. With the best will in the world, without real time sonar, the operator of the dredger is using skill and judgment to know where he put the bucket, how many times he has put in and to what depth. This results in a lot of silt being removed but not a very uniform river bottom. Some areas are bound to be missed, others will have been deeper 'scooped out' than others. The issue when it comes to water depth is there is no real need to have it any deeper than it is - without commercial operations going on (and even when they did, you'd have to go back to the days of the Wherry's for commercial operations on the northern rivers) what would spending out on incredibly expensive 'proper' dredging equipment and going along the rivers and Broads across north and south actually do? I am not against this, I mean I would love for the entire system to be dredged to a mean depth of 10 feet - this would mean that many areas would not need touching for a good number of years after such an exercise, but it would take years, and cost millions to achieve. While it might make the rivers flow greater, and thus lower water levels generally for easier access under the likes of Wroxham and Potter Heigham bridges, it also might not to this. We have no data to know if the bridge at Potter has it self sunk and if it has by how much. In the 1970's there were steel braces and wooden dams over the two smaller archers - this was to try and stop the bridge 'spreading' outwards. I have no idea if this worked and that is why the bracing was removed, or if it did not and was just done to try and stop it. I believe there is a lot of things that contribute - if you remove piling from river banks then wave action both naturally and by passing boats simply has to take some silt away with it - where as piling would act as a physical barrier. I wonder how much silt and slow bank erosion is going on since so much piling has been removed? I am convinced there would be no studies undertaken prior to such work and since, because studies also cost money and take time. In short, we can speculate all we like, moan until the cows come home but without big investment it just is not going to change and even i it did change it would affect so few comparatively to make it worth while, I'd imagine that things will get worse before it gets better too and that is just the main rivers, private marina's also need dredging and that cost will fall on the berth holders who may well not feel it is worth it so long as they can use their boat 'most of the time'. I know that to take Independence out I need to be at mid tide, and preferably on a rising tide. I know she will touch bottom at Reedham Quay and so cannot arrive there or leave there at low water, neither can I go down the New Cut at low water - but it is a bit touch and go with bridge height at high water for Hadiscoe so again it has to be planned - same goes for Oulton Broad. I don't however get frustrated at this and expect the Broads Authority to dredge areas just to help me out, but what I do worry about are areas like Catfield Dyke or up to Coltishall even where at low water there is very little under the boat. I wonder what things will be done about the dwindly depth on Sutton Broad as well. These areas to my mind need looking at more than the lower Bure.
  32. 2 points
    5000 cubic Metres is equal to 500 metres( half a kilometer) (or 550 yds) By 10 metres (33.25 Feet) By 1 Metre (3 feet 3 inches) So just under a third of a mile of normal norfolk river to a depth of 39 inches, or 17 inches for 2/3rds of a mile say
  33. 2 points
  34. 1 point
    Hello again Following our disaster of a boat on the canals I have to ask if Hoseasons have made all there customer service staff redundant? In the past they have always been excellent when we had a rare problem with the hire boats, or should I say a problem worth digging them up about, but in this instance they have just not been there. I will certainly avoid booking through them in future and go direct. I would like to settle with a yard and spend our twice yearly holidays with them. Trouble is I like different boats and our funds are not a bottomless pit so I will need to budget more after next year, our 50th wedding anniversary. Wishing you all a very merry Christmas and a New Year you wish for. Regards John & Val
  35. 1 point
    The fore mentioned BA report tells us that it cost three million at 2000 prices. Perhaps split between conservation and navigation, only right and proper, the probable cost of Hickling would be as much as five million in total. Where there is a will there is often a way.
  36. 1 point
    Thank you for that insight, Riverman. I have heard from other sources much the same comment and that there is good, useful kit moored up at Thorpe, now seemingly redundant. This is gear that could and should be in use, it is not as if there is not work for it to do. However, perhaps there is some merit in trying new, innovative techniques but surely not to persist if they proves less efficient. With absolutely no relevant experience whatsoever I must say that the use of suction to shift spoil to suitable disposal sites does make sense to me. Certainly the Dutch have shown what can be done in that respect.
  37. 1 point
    Pete - perhaps you could persuade a few farmers around Hickling to read that then - methinks there could lie a major issue. A limited trial last year has not been continued and possibly was not as successful as had been hoped? P.S. Not sure what the total cost of Clearwater was, but you can be sure that the supply of money from Europe for such projects looks like it might dry up in the future! P.P.S. I would hope Riverman could expand a little on his last sentence to enable others to understand more fully!!
  38. 1 point
    I would prefer custard.
  39. 1 point
    Marsh, my point was not so much that ONLY the channel was being dredged rather that boats might one day be limited to areas that are deemed acceptable, e.g. navigation channels. No, I'm not suggesting a total dredging of Hickling, or Oulton for that matter, but something at least on the lines of the Barton restoration.
  40. 1 point
    Saving any sort of Hardwood whether one has an immediate need for it or not is always a good thing imho. Have a look at this listing I just discovered £140:00 per plank. You think that is expensive? Not really, not for genuine teak. If I had a few quid spare I would purchase the lot and have it in stock ready for any issues on 'B.A's hull as she is planked entirely of teak. Which is a good thing, until we have to start changing any of them Griff https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Teak-Planks-of-Wood-Timber-per-plank/264054384596?hash=item3d7ade27d4:g:HwYAAOSw1Dtbohrl:rk:29:pf:0
  41. 1 point
    'worth digging them up about' Chuffin Eck, I thought you suggested they had been made redundant, not buried, that's a bit over the top! Griff
  42. 1 point
    I have to admit that we have one on the boat for emergency rations with instant mash & beans they are not bad. Sent from the Norfolk Broads Network mobile app
  43. 1 point
    Happy Christmas. https://www.jacquielawson.com/sendcard/preview?cont=1&hdn=1&fldCard=3493030&path=105741&pmode=init
  44. 1 point
    So ,if we are being generous, in the locations and years mentioned, at £45 a one tonne bucket it costs £1.7 M approx. Mainly contracted to Land And Water, yet the fairly recent large investment in equipment stands idle IMHO. THIS IS NOT VALUE FOR MONEY. But then no one is going to take any notice of me are they. Colin
  45. 1 point
    'What happened to 2016/2017' or didn't they do any then. Just also to point out that with the recent low tides bridge clearance of 10ft has been available through the old part of the river at Thorpe. Do not attempt a trip through as my tenders electric outboard was touching bottom while trying to cross the river, it only draws a foot. Just to add, this part of the broads was was dredged only 4 years ago. Has anyone else noticed how much dredging equipment seems to be moored at Griffin lane doing nothing when this is the quietest time of year for boat traffic. Another: How many yards/metres does 5000m3 clear off a river. Are we talking of 1m extra depth or what . Ok, I'll go back to cooking tea. by the way, Happy Christmas Everyone Colin
  46. 1 point
    If the person getting off with the ropes is struggling then the person at the helm really needs to get the boat alongside and under better control. In our case it will usually be Liam at the helm and me doing the ropes. He knows that I will not step off the boat until he has it under full control and close alongside where he will hold it until both bow and stern and any spring lines are secured. No tugging and pulling at ropes or the boat. Let the boat do the work.
  47. 1 point
    It is surprising just how many people you find on boats who have no interest in learning how to handle it be that driving or mooring up. We made a point of both of us learning how to handle our boat and being able to handle it on our own without another crew member just in case one of us falls ill during a cruise. The other can then take it home single handed. Good job too because there have been two occasions now where Liam has been taken ill and I have had to get the boat back to base alone!
  48. 1 point
    they were only supposed to blow the doors off.
  49. 1 point
    Unfortunately discussions on here tend to be very slanted by the few that react in raptures every time there is a criticism of the BA. Would be refreshing to see a few more well balanced debates.
  50. 1 point
    Tinned pies, smash & a tin of mixed vegs!
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