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  1. 5 points
    "We have no data to know if the bridge at Potter has itself sunk and if it has by how much. In the 1970s there were steel braces and wooden dams over the two smaller archers - this was to try and stop the bridge 'spreading' outwards. I have no idea if this worked and that is why the bracing was removed, or if it did not and was just done to try and stop it." We do, indeed, have the data. Such data is collected regularly by Norfolk County Council Highways' Bridge Inspection team. Potter Bridge has not sunk since measurements were first recorded. The bridge was inspected again last month. I can vouch, too, for the fact that the recent spate of exceptionally low tides was just as evident above Potter Bridge as below it. The EA's Repps gauge almost certainly bottomed out as did the gauge in the Pilot's Office at Potter.
  2. 5 points
    I won't comment on the self styled Broads National Park tag but I will on this paragraph: c) protecting the right of navigation through the maintenance, improvement and development of the navigation area to such standard as appears to the Authority to be reasonably required. I have underlined the obvious flaw and ask 'can we really trust the Authority to judge standards in a manner that reflects the needs of their stakeholders rather than as a sop to the aspirations and agenda of the Authority's CEO? It's all about trust, or lack of, that is the crux of the matter.
  3. 4 points
    John, the underlined text is open ended. The BA appears to be of the opinion that it should be able to set the standards as it sees fit, whether that standard be one of improvement or abandonment, so long as it appears to be reasonably required. JP has a long history of interpreting policy in a manner that supports whatever it is that he is currently promoting. Yes, it is sufficiently important as to warrant concern. If accepted as policy it would allow a level of control that would be open to abuse. What is reasonable to one man, JP for example, might be an anathema to the boating public. Unfortunately dealing with the present BA set up is like playing a game of chess, we need to be able to out-guess the power behind the hand by at least several moves ahead.
  4. 4 points
    Hi Marshman. I agree with some of your comment but both the expensive platforms with legs were there when we passed late October, as for long armed diggers. I'm sure extra ones could be leased at far less cost than contracting out to commercial concerns. I had thought that was the general idea. Maybe the BA should put pressure on the land owners to clear their own trees overhanging the rivers. This would free up more staff for dredging. At the end of the day, this discussion came about over a rare extreme low tide which generally occur each year at varying levels, the other 700+ tides will be within predicted heights. We could, of cause, still have weather that will cause flooding. For those that weren't here to see it. Our two boats at Thorpe. Kept a close eye on skin fittings as the tide rose. The outer boat,Lady Linda, was on the bottom too as there was far less than the 3ft she needs. The safety ladder is just touching the ninth rung. We only need five rungs to get 8ft clearance to get Lady Linda under the eastern bridge. Colin
  5. 3 points
  6. 3 points
    It's a Canoe Jim, but not as we know it I'm not sure the well known Broadland canoeist Would have a clue either
  7. 3 points
    Canoes don't draw much....
  8. 3 points
    Wishing all forum members a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year full of perfect boating for next season. Regards Alan
  9. 3 points
    https://mailchi.mp/6da961e22660/broads-briefing-december?e=b9e683c9ea Griff
  10. 3 points
    Ready meals on a boat? Been reading the thread with great interest and a lot of giggles Trouble with us is that we don't drive, so as much as I would love to pre-prepare and freeze "stuff", by the time we got to the boat it would be ruined as we have at least one night in Norwich beforehand. Anyway, Mr N 's appetite has been really rubbish this week, with his tooth problem and the fact that our holiday is coming to an end, so he asked me to get "something that would tempt a jaded palate" the other day. I got a frozen pepperoni pizza and a Fray Bentos tinned steak and kidney pie (yes, I know, it's possibly the lowest of the low, but it worked) from the shop at Reedham. Along with those, I got a packet of frozen veggie fingers for me, which to be honest, were really nice. Anything quick and nutritious is fantastic on a boat where A) you've got limited facilities, B) you're on holiday and C) you really can't be a*%ed to cook
  11. 3 points
    So now we know what 5000 cubic metres actually means in real terms in removed spoil / increased depth etc. (Big Thank you FairTmiddlin for educating us). As a poster said a fair while back, it is not enough, not nearly enough, just literally scratching the surface - Well bed to be precise. Just as I thought the Ba are doing the absolute bare minimum so we can actually navigate without touching bottom 'Hopefully'. Seems to me then that the 'Hump' will keep on slowly but surely increasing in size resulting in keeping the river levels in the Northerns artificially high - which in turns means even less dredging the Ba must carry out. The river from Marina Keys to the yellow post will get ever narrower and shallower resulting in increased speeds of ebbing water but with less volume going out to sea. We are all guilty of allowing this to happen by not pressurising the Ba enough. Mind you to be fair, that's kinda difficult when we are up against an unelected Quango that seems not to be accountable to anyone Griff
  12. 2 points
    Peter, I have to say that I would have hugely more confidence in your posts if you were to use slightly less inflammatory language. Your distrust of the man in his position is well known and thoroughly documented, but your arguments would be so much better served if delivered with ice cold accuracy and facts without the personal rhetoric. I believe you are perfectly correct in highlighting that paragraph, and to ask if that which you have underlined is either good enough or indeed a reasonable standard to be targeted, further highlighting "appears to the authority to be reasonably required " I would further ask the doctor if he personally or as CEO of the BA, would do business with a company who had set that as a performance standard.
  13. 2 points
    I quite agree! I noticed the very same thing when I read the report. More political manoeuvres. I must say that the BA boundary could be tweaked a bit, for planning purposes, but not just for purposes of self aggrandisement.
  14. 2 points
    More avoidable old squit from Edwina! Please don't feel forced to read it if you don't want to but just remember, there's no smoke without fire! http://www.broadsnationalpike.com/2018/12/bonfire-of-councillors.html?fbclid=IwAR2nwpgqhuqSA5KTTtst9FyOKtA-NGtzIBb8xhjAPEigykCQ8XcOfpxnjRY
  15. 2 points
    Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you all looking forward to the May forum Get-together Because after the festivities we need something to look forward to, all the best Ted
  16. 2 points
    Hope his tooth gets better.I find one,two or may be 10 single malts help!
  17. 2 points
    Anything is possible, it comes down to motivation, need and money. The dredging that is done on the Broads in the main is reactive - concentrated on a specific area for a need. For example, a particular bend becomes especially silted and as a result of this is scheduled to have dredging undertaken. With the best will in the world, without real time sonar, the operator of the dredger is using skill and judgment to know where he put the bucket, how many times he has put in and to what depth. This results in a lot of silt being removed but not a very uniform river bottom. Some areas are bound to be missed, others will have been deeper 'scooped out' than others. The issue when it comes to water depth is there is no real need to have it any deeper than it is - without commercial operations going on (and even when they did, you'd have to go back to the days of the Wherry's for commercial operations on the northern rivers) what would spending out on incredibly expensive 'proper' dredging equipment and going along the rivers and Broads across north and south actually do? I am not against this, I mean I would love for the entire system to be dredged to a mean depth of 10 feet - this would mean that many areas would not need touching for a good number of years after such an exercise, but it would take years, and cost millions to achieve. While it might make the rivers flow greater, and thus lower water levels generally for easier access under the likes of Wroxham and Potter Heigham bridges, it also might not to this. We have no data to know if the bridge at Potter has it self sunk and if it has by how much. In the 1970's there were steel braces and wooden dams over the two smaller archers - this was to try and stop the bridge 'spreading' outwards. I have no idea if this worked and that is why the bracing was removed, or if it did not and was just done to try and stop it. I believe there is a lot of things that contribute - if you remove piling from river banks then wave action both naturally and by passing boats simply has to take some silt away with it - where as piling would act as a physical barrier. I wonder how much silt and slow bank erosion is going on since so much piling has been removed? I am convinced there would be no studies undertaken prior to such work and since, because studies also cost money and take time. In short, we can speculate all we like, moan until the cows come home but without big investment it just is not going to change and even i it did change it would affect so few comparatively to make it worth while, I'd imagine that things will get worse before it gets better too and that is just the main rivers, private marina's also need dredging and that cost will fall on the berth holders who may well not feel it is worth it so long as they can use their boat 'most of the time'. I know that to take Independence out I need to be at mid tide, and preferably on a rising tide. I know she will touch bottom at Reedham Quay and so cannot arrive there or leave there at low water, neither can I go down the New Cut at low water - but it is a bit touch and go with bridge height at high water for Hadiscoe so again it has to be planned - same goes for Oulton Broad. I don't however get frustrated at this and expect the Broads Authority to dredge areas just to help me out, but what I do worry about are areas like Catfield Dyke or up to Coltishall even where at low water there is very little under the boat. I wonder what things will be done about the dwindly depth on Sutton Broad as well. These areas to my mind need looking at more than the lower Bure.
  18. 2 points
    5000 cubic Metres is equal to 500 metres( half a kilometer) (or 550 yds) By 10 metres (33.25 Feet) By 1 Metre (3 feet 3 inches) So just under a third of a mile of normal norfolk river to a depth of 39 inches, or 17 inches for 2/3rds of a mile say
  19. 2 points
  20. 1 point
    Maurice Mynah has an uncontrolled sudden shiver !!
  21. 1 point
    So One foot of dredging from Thurne mouth to GYYS Is 14 times 5000M3 70.000 cubic metres of spoil
  22. 1 point
    Wow.....great thread revival
  23. 1 point
    Note to self... do not comment... say nothing... Keep thoughts to self … repeat ... do not comment... say nothing...……….
  24. 1 point
    It is surprising just how many people you find on boats who have no interest in learning how to handle it be that driving or mooring up. We made a point of both of us learning how to handle our boat and being able to handle it on our own without another crew member just in case one of us falls ill during a cruise. The other can then take it home single handed. Good job too because there have been two occasions now where Liam has been taken ill and I have had to get the boat back to base alone!
  25. 1 point
    Hi Ray, I would be calling in at a good Chippy Regards Alan
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