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  1. 4 points
    We're hiring two weeks today from Stalham, but after reading this, and similar, threads will be heading south. Counting the days!
  2. 3 points
    Chuffin Eck, Look at this lot! Did you even know of it's existence? I didn't. Lots to read up on in here Griff http://www.norfolkmills.co.uk/Watermills/dilham.html
  3. 3 points
    "The 1812 Act contains a special provision preventing the original canal company from charging any tolls or dues "For any Boat, Barge , or Vessel which shall be navigated or pass upon any part of the river Ant which at the Time of passing this Act is navigable to Dilham:" Now I'm just posting my opinion here not any facts or proper knowledge. That part of the act you have correctly quoted I'm assuming is still in force directed at the Old Canal Company. The section of the canal that Luke Patterson now owns is obviously not owned by the Old Canal Company it is owned by him so therefore does it apply to him? Also is not that act directed at just the section for what was the mill at Dilham not the whole canal for its full length? Graham should be able to shed some light on this one? -------------------------------------------------------------- From what I have learnt with my discussions with Graham, Luke didn't actually buy the canal. He bought the farm and farm land subsequently meaning he inherited that section of the canal and also inheriting the responsibility to maintain it as he sees fit or otherwise. Does he have a legal responsibility to maintain the canal to any sort of minimum standard? I don't know. What I do know is that to bring his section of the waterway up to a navigable standard clear of any trees or below water hazards is going to cost money & time - Lots of it What I assume is that Luke is on limited funds available to him - who isn't? He's running a business not a charity to enhance derelict waterways. So any work done on the canal itself has to be funded by him with no financial return on his outlay. The toll he asks for is voluntary not compulsory. The more £4's he receives in his honesty box, then the more £4's he can spend on the canal work. You can safely bet he will end up outlaying way more than the total of the £4's he receives - Rocket science it ain't! We, as NBN Forumites could collectively no doubt organise a work party and take it upon ourselves to assist with tree / fauna clearance between say Tonnage Bridge to Honing lock. BUT we would need Luke's permission and maybe Luke is independent and doesn't want to be held beholden to anyone and wants to do it himself when funds / time allows? I need to get the message over to him that we don't expect any favours in return but would like to and enjoy helping making a difference At some point I want to contact Luke and offer him our help, when I say 'Our' I just mean willing volunteers from the NBN not the whole membership of course. But first off I need to learn more about his section of the waterway and find out what sort of guy Luke is to give us the best chance of being able to assist and make a real impact for all waterway users to benefit and enjoy. Any thoughts / advice sent in my direction would be most welcome. Does anyone in here know the guy? Has anyone used his glamping / camping facilities? Over to you guys as per the norm, Griff
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    we look forward to hearing more about the project and do keep us informed about any projects that need volunteers to assist, I am sure we have many members here that would be happy to help such a project.
  5. 3 points
    I think the two new members have put some excellent posts, and should be encouraged to keep with us. Not just for the NWDC issue, but also to add their input to other navigational issues. To have two such members who are dedicated to restoring an important historic part of the Broads, and a wealth of knowledge in what`s required to deal with legal issues etc, it must surely be beneficial to the forum, and us members. Welcome to forum chaps, and please stay and get involved in other discussions and even NBN meets and gatherings.
  6. 3 points
    I am Graham Pressman. I am boating Officer for North Walsham and Dilham Canal Trust and a trustee. The Trust is concerned that in due course, the canal can be re-opened. Until that time can come, we are working with owners and the public to slow or prevent any further deterioration of the structures and to repair structures where we can. An example of that is the work currently underway at Ebridge lock, where we are replacing the top pai of lock gates. The section roughly between Ebridge lock and Swafield bridge in owned by The Old Canal Company. That company have de-silted the entire length between Ebridge lock and Bacton Wood lock and Bacton Wood lock itself is nearly completely restored. It has been a huge undertaking and the section, despite being private property has been opened to the public to use at their own risk for the first time in history (this has always been a privately owned canal with some certain, but limited, rights delegated to the public by Act of Parliament). There is more to follow in the foreseeable future. In the mean time, the un-navigable section is available for the public to use, once again at their own risk, for walking, cycling etc. I sincerely hope that all this effort will be appreciated by forum users and would invite any and all who have an interest in the canal to join The Trust to help in it's maintenance from hereon in. As to the section between 100 yards upstream of Old Wayford Bridge and just downstream of Honing Lock, that is owned by Bindwell Ltd. (Luke Patterson). Luke gave me permission to take my tug along his section on the single proviso that he asked me to drop a Toll in his Honesty Box. This I was delighted to do. The Act of Parliament allows the canal owner to charge a Toll and I believe, quite rightly so. The canal cost £32000 to build and costs mint to keep open. Bindwell have cleared a huge number of trees already as can be witness by anybody travelling up to Honing lock. This clearance is expensive and Luke is hoping that if people want to use the canal, they will pay their tolls so that he can continue maintaining things for the benefit of users. He is very aware of every single thing which needs to be done. It is my view that he should be lauded for his efforts, and certainly not criticised. Only by travelling the length will the results of his efforts been seen to be appreciated. I urge boaters to make their deposits in his Honest Box, as he so politely asks. One last thing on that section. There are under water obstacles still and much care must be taken by delicate craft. Navigation is strictly at the boaters' own risk. Speeds must be kept VERY low and there is a high likelihood of meeting a young and inexperienced person in a canoe in a very narrow waterway, coming the other way. PLEASE TAKE CARE! The upper section of the canal was abandoned by Act of parliament around the turn of the 19th century, between, roughly, Swafield Bridge and Antingham. Part of that is now simple farm land. This would be the most difficult and expensive part to restore. The last part that I should address is the section between Honing lock and just below Ebridge lock. This section is owned by North Walsham Canal Company. The Trust is always ready to help them to maintain and repair their walk ways and structures and have done so periodically. Our Wildlife Officer has conducted plant survey for them. The NCWCo. highly values the ecology of it's canal. Anybody wishing to join The Trust can do so at a very nominal fee. our web site is currently undergoing improvements (to be seen some time soon), but the site we already have is incredibly informative. We provide a monthly magazine for members and there are regular Work Party Reports on the web site, so that readers can see what we are doing from the safety of their own armchair. The way to get improvements is to join the North Walsham and Dilham Canal Trust, discover and check the facts and volunteer to do the work. In particular, our brickie is on the verge of emigrating. Any qualified and/or experience brickie (any adult age), ready to invest some time over the next couple of weeks would be very gratefully welcomed as we pursue the restoration of Ebridge Lock. For those after a more sedate experience, yet still informative, our trip boat runs regularly from Ebridge on a Sunday (Also some Saturdays and BH weekends). Just call to reserve a place or see: https://www.facebook.com/events/1697798087031841/ for a Film Evening or the poster below for boat trips. Our membership form is at http://www.nwdct.org/membership.html
  7. 3 points
    Many many thanks all for your advice, speedtripple, Vanessa’s, Mr Nog ( regards to Mrs Nog and any other Noggins) ransworth, Swan R and Hylander. On reflection, better to have a relaxing and enjoyable time rather than stress about tide times aircraft, bridge heights etc. Thanks again.
  8. 3 points
    Went up to East Ruston many times from the late 60s up to about 1990. Last time in a Safari mk3. (Golden Realm). Largest boat I got up the canal but only as far as Tonnage Bridge was a Broom Skipper. Wharfdale mid 70s Broadsway II early 70s Salamander III in 1970 Fred
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  10. 2 points
    My first car was a BMW 635csi, non roadworthy which I was given to learn to drive in when I was young. Loved thrashing around the farm in it and I'm sure that's where my passion for motorsport came from. My first road car and I came down to earth with a bump, a Mini. But it was still great fun. For reliability I must nominate my Honda CRV. 15 years old now, and rapidly approaching 200,000 miles with only one visit to the garage, other than for service and mot, a replacement VTEC oil valve at 120k. Still going strong.
  11. 2 points
    Excellent work Griff with some good stuff coming out of the woodwork ! I hope to add to the bit on Dilham "lake" but an trying to find a link as I know the NWT archivist published an article on it sometime ago. However one thing that is incorrect I think is the point raised about the Natural Tidal LImit on the navigation bit - the NTL is an official point marked on OS Maps and the NTL for the Ant is just as you enter Barton Broad - tidal influence is felt above these marks but that does not mean it is the official point. The one on the Bure is is just level with the top entrance to Wroxham Broad for example. No doubt someone will tell me I am wrong and that its now been moved - actually I wonder who decides that?
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    As a few of us have remembered and posted our first car's registration number, am I the only one who just had to go change a password somewhere?
  14. 2 points
    Thank you Griff especially, I haven't laughed out loud on my own for ages, frightened the dog. Gearstick in the air Mum in the car nightmare stuff. Sea gypsy I think you might be thinking of a more modern A40 mine was black and definitely the reg was that way round, I passed my test March 1967 the new reg of that year was letters number and the letter E. I bought this car second hand from the local butcher and it was very old then, there were two shapes one a bigger version of a Morris minor and mine which was less bubble more square. I have some recollection of a column change but not clear enough to be certain. By the way I now drive a Ford KA but it is the plus model and is as big as a Fiesta black with white roof and white wheel spokes, snazzy hey!
  15. 2 points
    This is a very good forum discussion and very good news. Too many of our navigations have closed recently or are at risk of silting up having "fallen into disuse" so it is good to hear of the possible re-opening of one of Norfolk's most famous waterways. I just want to mention that the flow of water in the old days was sufficient for a commercial waterway, as you lose a lot less water in the canal by locking down a loaded wherry, than you do for small cruisers or dinghies. Archimedes Principle - "Eureka" and all that! I hope the water flow will now prove sufficient for regular trips through the locks by small craft.
  16. 2 points
    Thanks very much for that Geoffrey and good to see you and Steve out on the water again. The regatta has changed a lot since I last attended in the 80s - we never had such excellent facilities as that marquee - but it was always a lot of fun all the same. Pity about their attitude to filming, I don't understand that, you would think they would be glad of the publicity for such a famous and traditional event. By the way, it is actually Thurne Mouth Open Regatta, not open mouth regatta. Unless you are standing at the bar in the beer tent, of course!
  17. 2 points
    This was Gay’s Staithe on Saturday morning. It was full Friday night. So maybe Ranworth was photographed last week. Just saying... Can you spot “Billy No Mates” at the end?
  18. 2 points
    Two new members on the same page? Welcome Graham P and thanks for joining us. Proper chuffed we have a member of the NW&DC trust onboard, especially as you will be able to put many rumours and myths to bed Fenland Skies - Proper good name imho, welcome onboard too Griff
  19. 2 points
    Other points which to me, have not been clarified include if the Canal Co own all the way to Wayford, then how can an individual own another bit and charge a toll - why is the toll not going to the Canal Co? Marshy - Sigh, the Canal Co don't own it ALL the way to Wayford, just some of it, as stated earlier there are currently FOUR owners of sections of the waterway. That's how an individual owns 'A Bit' and why would he give his voluntary toll collected to another owner of another section? From what Graham told me Luke is keen for the waterway to be maintained / improved when funds allow (Why am I repeating mysen here?) Whilst Griff you have cleared some things, legal issues now seem more blurred but I am not discussing my thoughts on an Open Forum but I am not entirely convinced! I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else for that matter. You can remain unconvinced or otherwise till your hearts content I'm just doing a bit of digging / research and in the process myself discovering some rumours and a few interesting facts, learning and reporting back for forumites to read / discuss as they see fit. You take it or not - Your choice. You are of course welcome to collect further information and enlighten me and the rest of us anytime you wish. Sources should of course be verified so they just ain't yet more rumours. I enjoy being educated / informed / enlightened especially with regards to Norfolk waterways I intend to contact Luke sometime in the near future but have to get my approach nice and friendly - That should be easy enough? Griff
  20. 2 points
    There are four present owners of the actual canal from Wayford through to Antingham. Yes they do own the actual canal between them. Bank side ownership is not an issue on navigation of the canal itself. There are two big obstructions to getting the waterway operational, one of which is one of the canal owners whom I'm not going to name. The other being funding of course The lower section is owned by Luke Pattinson. An act of parliament in 1812 gives him the right to ask for a toll to be used on maintenance. He is sympathetic to maintaining the waterway as a navigation but its expensive. He actively encourages canoes / dinghies to use the section of the waterway up to Honing lock. He charges a voluntary toll of just £4:00 and seeing as it's a couple of hours paddling there / back it works out at just £2 per Hr. I would suggest if you do use the waterway - Stick more than £4 in the box! All monies raised he uses on maintaining the waterway. There is an honesty box by the jetty at Tonnage bridge. If that honesty box was to start generating more income then Luke may be able to spend more on tree clearance and the like. The issue with hire company is that they discourage their customers paying the voluntary toll. This has resulted in Luke being non to welcoming with craft from that yard - To me that is wholly understandable. A machine for the day - Just the machine costs £350 then on top of that there is men, tools, reducing down the offcut material, stacking / drying / burning etc. That needs a lot of £4 donations! Not mentioning any business names here please peeps as that may lead to legal difficulties. Luke has a glamping / camping site near to the banks of the waterway on his land, he encourages clients to use dinghies / canoes to use the waterway I am informed that the waterway is navigable to just past Tonnage bridge. However this is at your own risk and you must proceed very slowly / cautiously. Just north of Tonnage bridge is a large tree which is causing an obstruction. However dinghies / canoes should manage without difficulty. Some above and underwater obstructions near to the banks have already been cleared Griff
  21. 2 points
    Something i`ve wanted to do about the the area ajoining the top of the Ant to the NWDC where there are a lot of trees overhanging, and blocking access, is to simply form a group (call them activists or freedom warriors etc if you want) and simply go there in dinghys / open boats, or whatever, and start cutting those overhanging brunches etc right back. You would also have to check for underwater branches / roots / obstructions etc, but i imagine they would need to be cleared by a professional operation (could someone put me right on that?). But as for the foliage above water, that would be easy enough to do. I know some people would`nt agree with it, but in reality, all we`d be doing is maintaining a level of navigation, but on a volutntary basis, and the BA are always on the lookout for volunteers are`nt they?. I`d even book a weeks holiday off work and join the party, and make it a working holiday. Certainly be a change from building aircraft interiors in a noisy factory. As for the branches etc that you cut back, simply put them on land (elsewhere if need be) to form a habitat for wildlife. How environmentally satisfying would that be?.
  22. 1 point
    Difficult to see where the boat stops and the wood begins!!! Still, don't have far to carry the water........!!
  23. 1 point
    I spotted this at Bradford on Avon on the K&A over the weekend...
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    The body of water to the south of where the map above says Waldron Marsh is I believe " Ranworth Flood" Now it would make a really safe and sheltered Mud Anchor place. Should you drag no harm could come. I think, that old, almost "Oxbow" would be really worth restoration. St Benetts could then become a rafting up mooring taking many more boats at the busy times.
  25. 1 point
    As mentioned, weather permitting 11:00 first start, there are around 100 entries so with about 10 boats in a start maybe 10 starts at 5 minute intervals. But there is normally an extra 15 minute gap in the middle to allow boats to clear. So the last start should be just after 12:00. The bad news is the temperature forecast is up to 26C and the windspeed down to 9 mph.. It could be another slow race...
  26. 1 point
    My first car was a Triumph Herald, and it had the front end of a Triumph Vitesse. A useful site is www.askmid.com, where you can find if a car is currently on the insurance database. If you're involved in a car crash it's particularly useful.
  27. 1 point
    Personally I have always thought the old river meander around Ward Marsh restored would be very nice indeed.
  28. 1 point
    That explains a hell of a lot Doesn't it just! Griff
  29. 1 point
    Please can you..... :)
  30. 1 point
    Mine was a 1957 Standard Super 10 with an opening boot and up graded to a 1200 cc Spitfire engine and 5.5" rims. Went very well but very top heavy so it kept falling over
  31. 1 point
    my os open data map puts it as you both say, just at the entrance of duck broad, just before you turn the corner into Martham Broad, just as you enter Barton, just before the second entrance to wroxham broad, at the end of the moorings at south walsham broad, at the river end of the dyke at ranworth, all the way into Norwich to the mill on the Yare, up to the road on the chet, up past the locks at geldestone
  32. 1 point
    Definitely. Richardson's also have the larger version (Astral Gem) as well as these (Clarion) and the Astral is an absolute steal provided there are at least two of you. Many people do not like them, but I'm quite a fan actually. For the size I think they pack a lot of space, and they are very cheap to hire. I was due to have Silver Haze about three years back but had to cancel due to a long holiday getting booked over the same period and Hoseason's wouldn't let me move the booking to the next year so sadly I never got to try it.
  33. 1 point
    Just one small point Do not drop the mast on anyone’s head, Phill did that to me
  34. 1 point
    i agree with all of the above. I too found it disconcerting that you could not really see behind you when steering from the inside and I only ever tried to walk down half the length of the deck when disembarking, so narrow was the "pathway". Having said that, I think the boat is excellent value and the positives you mention, for me far outway the negatives. I think the fact that some people find the look of Jazz to be less than "beautiful" (even Barnes refer to it as not one of their prettiest boats) keeps the price down making it a lot of boat for your money.
  35. 1 point
    I think it sounds better as open mouth, considering its a food and drink festival
  36. 1 point
    Hello GrahamP and FendlandSkies welcome to the forum. Regards Alan
  37. 1 point
    Haha well live and learn! I've never seen the owners and not seen it move for a week or so I'll certainly ask them if I see them.
  38. 1 point
    If the hull and suoerstructure shape dont give it away the cockpit sides certainly do!
  39. 1 point
    The rivers and waterways of Britain can be a wonderful sight, what with nature adding their abundance of colour and sounds. Unfortunately the human side of things can bring that down with laziness and the feeling that as I'm okay, I don't care what it looks like around me while I'm on the river. So sad.
  40. 1 point
    Saw this old woody on the Lea Navigation just south of Bow Flyover. No name.
  41. 1 point
    Marshy - the answer to your questions is simple - I don't know! I can only guess as to why no progress below Honing Lock - Maybe it's a manpower thing, the volunteers concentrate on one section at a time? - Maybe its a money thing? maybe it's bank access to get to a fallen tree? Maybe the canal owner wants to tackle it himself once he has funds to do it? Maybe it's lack of a suitable workboat to get to the tree, maybe it's where do the put the thing after cutting it up? Maybe you could find out? The toll is as explained earlier to pay for clearance / maintenance as it is currently a private waterway I could of course ask Graham but it's a bank holiday and I have only just met him over the phone and don't want to be a thorn in his side from the off. SpeedTriple - this map may help Griff
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    Griff - you have indeed made inroads into some issues but what really troubles me is that IF it really that easy, then why has progress over that bit NOT been made???? No one invented those issues referred to and they are common knowledge around Broadland; a fallen tree cannot be an issue at all - I have a chainsaw!! It has been totally neglected south of Honing Lock for years and why, has it suddenly been necessary to introduce a Toll? It was not charged before and it seems to me that even on other restored waterways the BCU permit suffices? I have never seen ANY attempt at clearance south of the lock, although that could have changed over the last year or so. Other points which to me, have not been clarified include if the Canal Co own all the way to Wayford, then how can an individual own another bit and charge a toll - why is the toll not going to the Canal Co? Whilst Griff you have cleared some things, legal issues now seem more blurred but I am not discussing my thoughts on an Open Forum but I am not entirely convinced! To convince me I require to see some action on that bit - why is it that everything being done is above the lock and nothing below for example? If you look at any online mapping system you will see Tonnage Bridge is about half a mile or so below the East Ruston Branch an perhaps a little bit less down to Wayford.
  44. 1 point
    I don't know where they started from but they finished at Reedham.
  45. 1 point
    This was the most interesting ex-hire for sale - R644 sister to Broad Ambition and also ex Star Supreme/Superb Gem. Yours for £29950. It's flanked by Alpha's 42 foot 2 berth Jaguar and Teal 1 which has been brought back from hire life in Scotland.
  46. 1 point
    A working group clearing overhanging branches? - Sign me up. 'B.A' can be used as a hotel boat Griff
  47. 1 point
    Back on topic (We need another thread re Catfield/Waxham) The shuttering is due to be removed today at about 2pm. Then the new concrete drop cill can bee seen in all it's glory. Of course, one the gates are in, it will not be seen again for some years, all being well. This drop cill and the stop planks which go with it have been placed there to avoid the need for there ever needing to be a bund again. Future maintenance work can be performed behind the drop planks, in the dry. Griff
  48. 1 point
    How are things going at Ebridge Lock? See photo. The west wing wall is re-pointed. The shuttering is in ready for a concrete pour tomorrow. The brickwork repairs are well under way. The Stop Plank Grooves are in place, Finally, the Stop Planks are ready to collect from the manufacturers. Unashamedly pinched from their FB group Griff
  49. 1 point
    I remeber a couple of years ago late on a staurday watching for the first boats coming back to Horning, seeing the green nav lights rounding the bend before New Inn only to be dragged slowly back by the tide, repeated several times until one got light whisp of air to them going. I guess that where the skill come in!
  50. 1 point
    Saw this at Barnby dun South Yorkshire last Thursday
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