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Dan last won the day on June 23 2013

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  1. Top Gem 1 looks to have been modified a sliding door on the helmside and the original on the other, Top Gem 2 definately has a sliding door on the helmside but unsure on the other side.... but they stand out in line with your James Hoseason photo in that the doors are not as tall/have fibreglass under them before meeting the gunwhale which the others didn't have....
  2. Great photo's, thanks for sharing. Miss Selina taken in 2001 at Thames Ditton looks very similar just over 20 years later (though some seem to have the forward rail hump and others not) , but I wonder where she now is another 20 years on!? Dan
  3. It was. However I think the one in the photo i one of the Grebe's is probably Grebe 2 as the front (side) window doesn't quite look the same on Top Gem 1 to me. Here is number 2 (ex 'Grebe 2). It seems a real shame that there are no photo's of the two Turkish Desire's in the database....
  4. Interesting stuff indeed! I have been trying to remember them all in my head and the 4 Guardsmen built for the Thames with the other 4 could be all the ones with tinted glass, but there could have been a few more as with classes it was hard to know hw many each fleet had in all and on the Thames especially they swapped fleets a lot. The first we hired had been built by Cheesman Rollo and had a very faded red stripe (as you mentioned) and the words "Conqueror 40" (the Chessman Rollo/Eurocruisers name where "Ideal 40" appeared on the others. One of the 6 berths with tinted glass is now moored a couple of miles from home..... Dan
  5. Lucky that someone thought differently and kept it as it has created interest and conversation a few times on here for those interested in this boat launch/the history of this design and the people involved in how it came about Dan
  6. I was taking you back to your earlier comment and asking a question relating to that Across all fleets and waterways I would estimate there was about 12/15 tinted window 6 berth versions running in the very early 80's. Do you believe all were built by Newson's? Dan
  7. Do you believe that all 6 berth variants were built at Newson then? There was an awful lot more than four across all the hirefleets? Dan
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    Integrity seems to be quite rare, but it maybe always was as I think he was quite remarkable at the time as well Companies seem to have realised that the message needs to be 'we are on your side/will do right by you', but without the integrity of someone genuinely believing in it or living those values the insincerity of it is normally revealed Dan
  9. All Ideal 40's built in the 6 berth layout had tinted windows, where the 8 berth did not They certainly looked a lot smarter for the tinted windows I always thought Dan
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    I too have watched Hoseasons handling with interest.... I cannot believe that after a month they have not adjusted the sails and they still just post (promptly) the same reply to everyone on Twitter asking for a refund & struggling to get through - please DM us your details so we can take a look, and so there is a constant roundabout turning of people posting that they have and haven't heard after XX days, and criticism such as why aren't they offering refunds etc follows. Haven have handled it well I think, stating very clearly (and simply, unlike Hoseasons long winded multiple condition and complex response including suggestions to call to transfer dates but then the recorded message saying you can only speak to someone if departing within 7 days etc) that a directly booked holiday placed for 2020 or 2021 will be refunded if the virus gets in the way. Haven took 30 days to process our refund but you can live with that as passable I think... people will have empathy to the situation if you are clear and fair about it Like Marshman I think those companies that have offered a refund or transfer to another date with a slight reduction/offer (Park Holidays for one I think) chose a good route to help cashflow/not lose all the money out of the business that it can probably not afford (and no doubt a big part of why Hoseasons are not doing what is right, they probably just cannot logistically afford to refund people) whilst still being fair to the customers that it depends on. I think in times of crisis you find out how good people are and whether they are for you or for themselves.... I wonder what James Hoseason would have done ;) Dan
  11. Just seen one of the adapted Aquafibre 42's for sale... https://m.apolloduck.com/boat/aquafibre-42/632513 These look far less successful than the Condor's Vaughan described to my mind! It does make you wonder why they didn't just sell them!? Dan
  12. I think Gainsborough was sold into private hands Also, the internal photos show an ex Crown Blue Line fitout (later Le Boat) so I think if it was Gainsborough they would have used the internals of that one, given they're quite a different finish Dan
  13. I worked for Anglo Welsh between 1994 & 1998 at New Mills... might have even done your handover or helped you moor.... It certainly did work very well and made money. Covering the entire Llangollen (one of the better to sell holidays on) and then quite some distance more was a good draw and these were some of the best booked (plus some of the oldest boats) in the fleet It worked slightly different to how you remember in that you drove to your destination base and got a coach to your start point, so at the end you just drove home. The issues we used to have were mainly logistical. Those I remember well were the centered around the two bases being franchised to different people. This changed towards the end of my time when Anglo Welsh was going/went PLC and was "run" by Bill Furness & David Daynes on the 'top floor'. What went wrong with their period I do not know as I left after an appraisal when they stated they felt most improvements were due to their cash input and I decided that their world/beliefs and mine looked disappointingly different! They seemed to be out within two years themselves. Anyhow, back to one way issues: Both bases were franchised and the boats were owned by the Trevor base (and all major maintenance done by them), we turned them round on a per turnaround basis. This meant bedding was theirs, if you hired a TV(!) it was Trevor's, this meant all this had to go back and too on the coach. My manager spent a lot of time chasing (all the way to Trevor) after the coach with a tele' or box of bedding in the boot, though we suspected he enjoyed being out of the way on turnaround days!!? Most people arrived on time or early for the coach but there would often be one group who hadn't arrived and held things or delayed/annoyed the others A saving could be made by one base putting minimum fuel in for the other base to top up, which got silly but good fun at one point. The coach's were from a small firm local to Trevor and were pretty old.... the one way bookings were enviable and therefore costs weren't a worry The two bases were just a bit too far apart really. I think you needed to do about 8/9 hours a day. If you lost half a day in breakdowns it would be a pressure, or in periods of shorter daylight Other one way routes trialed never worked as well, but Trevor to Great Haywood lasted the distance for quite some time too, the Llangollen seeming to be the common success factor Dan
  14. Perhaps if you had kept the interior completely original, and threw in some wheel trims for an Austin Allegro, I might have been tempted Dan
  15. The 34ft Tropical's look particularly cheap/ideal private boats and I'm sure will go quickly at that price Dan
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