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If it was an all varnished hull then that narrows it down a lot. On the basis of that and owner in the vicinity of Stalham Surgery it’s a long shot but possibly Reed Robin? Based on varnish only my other thoughts are Barracuda, I know she was based at Wroxham back around that time but not sure re racing. Other varnished yachts I can’t link in but may jog your memory are Phantom, Loyalist and Cynthia. Not sure if Cynthia was raced, her rig had gone by the turn of the 90’s. With the passage of time some may have been painted of course, were the Pandora’s varnished when in hire.. but I may have opened a box of worms there!

A lot of this is before my time, driving time that is, as I was alive and kicking for most of the 1970s! Stickers was definitely a thing in the late 80s: Fat Willy’s Surf Shack, My other car’s a Porsche and red ones that looked like a bolder version red text rear window heater lines with “COSWORTH” emblazoned inbetween. I remember these clearly as they passed by whilst on my push bike. Dare I declare my car history, must say I’m jealous of those of you who seemed to have gone through more cars than I have push bikes, I have as many bikes now as the total number of cars I’ve ever owned... all cars petrol unless stated otherwise. So first car was car of the year in 1993, albeit ten years earlier, the door wedge that was the Renault 9, in beige so known to my friends as the banana car. Comfy though and with a nod to carbon reduction with a traffic light dashboard equivalent to the econoscope. Number two. Volvo 3 series, tank like but reassuring to would have been would be in-laws as not exactly a boy racer car but safe pair of hands. Number three the ubiquitous Peugeot 205, a turbo diesel in serrento green which I sold for peunats due to boredom, it went on for years but didn’t like my move to the big smoke whence it became smokier. It survived a couple more years. Number four Audi Coupe in deep black with Quattro alloys. Fave car. Only got rid of it because I was forced to take a company car so traded it in for something practical... the company offering was a Mini Cooper which was fun though in parallel for a short time with.... Number five Suzuki Grand Vitara Limited V6 2.5 TC, 8 years old 26k on the clock, another 80k over ten more years and only the tin worm got the better of it in the end, final trip to the breakers yard under its own steam, still got the jack which comes in handy. Number six, and present workhorse, a Zafira A with 87k, originally motability in Wales, on its second clutch when I bought it, second ECU a few months later (Astra secondhand part) but nothing much since, odd brake bit, tyres, exhaust otherwise as reliable as the Suzuki. This listing excludes my wife’s motors including those I’ve bought for her... Car keys on the table forumites, let’s hear your recollection.

I’ve crossed thread here, I wonder what the underpinnings of the Outspan could be, the Peel P50 perhaps but no not with 4 wheels... maybe Commuter Cars Tango? Jesting aside I wonder if we’ll see single seat vehicles catch on in a bigger way in future, only 2 for sale on Autotrader, a Renault Twizzy and a BAC Mono.

Ship?

Best get yourself plumbed into the Lion, Welly or Albion!

That's a great photo, the gentleman behind your father Vaughan does look familiar but I'm not sure it is Mr Hagenbach who looked like this in 1960, pause the video at 37 seconds, the main star of the show is his daughter Penny. (Credit British Pathe). 2:27 ... Penny Hagenbach, daughter of Donald Hagenbach who designed the boat and is seen waving goodbye. The younger man is Nevill Blake and the ... Teenage English saleswomen packs her grip for attack on American market; 17 year old Miss Penny Hagenbach is to be one of the English "salesmen' at the Chicago National Boat Show (Illinois, February 6-15), She will have charge of a section of the stand of her father's firm (Graham Bunn (Wroxham) Ltd.) which will be among a number of British exhibitions. Her special responsibility will be Frataflcate, cruising, twin hulled, out board driven houseboats with accommodation for four. It will be the fourth time she has worked beside her father, Mr. TM Hagenbach, at a major show. Photo Showss Penny Hackenbach packs her grip in her bedroom at her home, The Haltings Wroxham, Norfolk, England

The Shoulder’ did a great vat of minted peas on a darts night. Seem to recall that the landlord was keen on the horses and also had a drawer to put the takings in, no fancy electronic till. Beer was always great, I’ll be in next time I’m that way again.

The past bears no hard and fast guide to the future, by that I mean a significant episode of erosion doesn’t necessarily mean it will continue at that rate. For a while after the reefs were installed at Palling I recall Scratby going through an intense period of media reporting but either it’s disappeared altogether or it’s still there, must confess not been to look for 20 years. It feels as though there will be an estuary with a lighthouse on the shore at Happisburgh in my lifetime. Make it deeper and it will inevitably grow, similar effect to the dredging unless you build a wall around it like wells or blakeney. I suspect the church and maybe the manor will still be there but if they’re not then perhaps there’ll be a third access point to the sea from the broads.

Take any guarantee of safety of land for a defined timespan against coastal erosion with a huge pinch of salt. Such promises, or guesses more likely, tend to be shorter lived than anticipated! Not sure who is telling unwary buyers such things but I’m sure such advice is underwritten with disclaimers.

As some forumites may have gathered the PB is very close to my heart so I’ll share a bit of history, and aspiration perhaps. My great grandparents, James (Tubby) and Eliza Turner, were licencees from 1916 to 1922 and subsequently built and lived in Broadholme a stones throw away which was run as a guest house. Here is Eliza in 1962 in the pub garden with her daughter Gwen, my great aunt, and my new born sister, Eliza’s great grand daughter, in Gwen’s arms. Whispering Reeds is the backdrop and still looks very much as was when Dick Chettleburgh and Jack Tusting took it on from Ted Piggin. My great uncle Alfred Amis, who married Gwen, took on the pub from 1935, sadly he passed not long before that photo was taken. Here he is outside by the verandah. Aunty Gwen carried on running the pub until the early 70s. Alfred was the uncle of Sonny Amis who ran the piling, dredging and weed cutting operation out of Potter Heigham. Alfred and Gwen hosted the Duke of Edinburgh and now King Charles for the infamous pillow fight. The last photo is a Mr Beales and Tubby Turner, didling weeds out of the dyke. James senior and Eliza’s son James (Jimmy), Gwen’s brother, my grandfather, was an apprentice of Herbert Woods and spent his entire working life there. He was a founder member and the first commodore of Hickling Broad Sailing Club, set up with the support of Gwen and Alfred, and President of the Lady Yacht Club up until his passing almost 30 years ago. So, where do I fit in, aside of growing up in Hickling, Staithe road, mucking around in the adjoining fruit fields and going sailing with my grandads customers, joining the sailing club, I also worked in the PB for a couple of seasons having followed the manager of the Potter’ Bridge Hotel there in 1990, Andy Haylett who did a decade there sadly unacknowledged on the county pubs website, but not forgotten. I hope the NWT restore to its former glory and I look forward to its reopening, I’m sure the village is supportive of both the Greyhound and the PB as they always used to operate in harmony, the recent pop up bar was very popular with locals who appreciate the setting and vista. Here’s to the next chapter, and it’s good luck to the new management whoever they may be.

Just looked it up, that’s the one! Great memory of a lock inn or two there on a Saturday.

Missed the boat so as to speak but pretty sure I saw Finlay dog in the vicinity of the fruit machine, I was at the wake which had indeed flooded the road with vehicles and the bar with overspill from the restaurant inc. yours truly, shame I didn’t put two and two together and seek you out and introduce myself. I can safely say you would not have been classed as an intruder, the family grew up in the boat hire business and treated visitors like family, indeed there were some present at the wake who came on holiday and became lifelong friends, some were even mad enough to move here! Some even madder bought boats from the yard ex-hire, suffice to say they were looked after well.

I think it was Mitchell & Butlers, yes a West Midlands thing for sure, maybe a little beyond, but very drinkable! Pronounced Brew Eleven (in a friendly midlands accent). The pubs that served it best were ran by Indian descendants, The Holbrooks was one I recall in particular at the end of Lythalls Lane, and I guess it was an IPA of sorts and they took a great deal of pride in serving up a perfect pint. I was introduced by some campers from Coventry who I met working at the Bridge Inn in Potter’ just before I headed there. They worked in engineering and for Land Rover at Solihull. Lovely people.

Thanks for the write up on your visit floyd’, I was a student there a few decades ago, disjointed is a good general description and I think the city is unique in many ways, riding a push bike round the place was as bad then as Norwich is becoming now... I have a lot of happy memories of my time there but haven’t been back for a while, the University have certainly expanded into many old buildings dotted around the east half of the city centre and I would hope some of the brutalist retail area has been improved west side. Pubs were great, Brew XI, breakfast from a batch hatch, the Parsons Nose takeaway that sold only chips with curry sauce and the locals were friendly once they realised I was from the Norfolk Broads not Australia!

From photos the width looks to have been reduced by circa 20%. If the water was simply the tide coming in and going out then in theory little difference. However, with a lot of rain run off into the broads, particularly the extra perhaps generated by homes built in Stalham, Horning, North Walsham, Wroxham, Aylsham etc. over the years, and the river banks having been raised, the water resulting from inclement weather will take longer to get out, hence what we’re seeing now with the sustained rainfall overtopping. If the sea ever breaks through Happisburgh/ Eccles when we’ve had a load of rain then there will be even more water flowing into the Thurne and Ant via the network of drainage ditches. Little wonder the insurers bailed out of flood risk cover in a lot of Broadland villages!

There was also a summer around that time when it was bad too, I didn’t see it at Horning but Mr Burton who ran the gift shop at the Ferry as well as the one at Hickling next to the PB told me about raising all the stock up from the lower shelves and baling out the shop. I recall it rained non-stop for a week at the time and gardens being underwater at Hickling in Staithe road on the south side. Possibly might also have been Oulton week in August.

A cafe with a launderette next door?

I’m fairly sure Gordon Curtis is on the helm. Sadly he passed away earlier this year otherwise we could have obtained the full crew list I expect. I’d assumed it was perhaps the Martham family on board but if it was a charter trip I wonder whether the yard might have hire records going back that far? Certainly a nice thought that the Boardmans went for a pleasure sail on their old boat.

Hathor in the 1970's sailing on Hickling.

Was afloat when I went past a few months ago MM. Maybe NWDCT could put a mast and sail on their new tin wherry? Not sure of the beam though... could be a steel man fallacy.

Good time had by all, some quick keying and the occasional guess coming up trumps. And some excursions to Wales, midland motor manufacturers and possibly all the bridges of the navigable Wensum which happened to be the wrong river for that question lol 1st Arthur on 18 pts. 2nd Kate on 12, 3rd Liz G 9.5 See you next week!

As promised advance notice of the subjects for tonight's quiz rounds: 1. name that tune 2. marketing 3. the cars became king Interval 4. ferries 5. a bridge too far 6. plants in or around water Place - http://www.nbnchat.com/chat - take your wellies off before entering please and hang your oilies up outside. No password required, just enter your preferred handle. Punters get as many attempts at the answers as they like until somebody gets it right! Typos tolerated along with the usual banter. As per previous I will be on the podium at 8.30 Norfolk time, so 10 mins or so late, but no fear I'll be there! There'll be two points available for each question in the first round to build momentum and the odd bonus point here and there to boot. Eyes up!

Thank you Arthur and hope to see you Friday! As participants will recall I was slightly late to the party and true to form may be ten minutes late this week notwithstanding hosting so please enjoy a mardle in the lounge pending my arrival. As previous survivors of my scripts will attest I cook up all my questions from scratch so I promise everyone will learn something and recognising that forumites turn up from southern England to the north and east Anglia to wales I am broadening my horizons. There are even free clues if required in case everyone is stumped! As per usual the subjects will be revealed nearer the time and once I’ve completed my scribe. And it’s good luck folks and be nice to see you, to see you nice!

Interestingly Hoseasons privacy statement is a bit more vague/ broader imho, running the business and no specific ref to law. So depending on the form if you book via them it may be that the Hoseasons statement could apply (?). I think the GDPR has unintended consequences sometimes, certainly keeps people in a job.

Barnes’ privacy statement includes the BA but only if required by law. And presumably they only apply if you look at their website or it is mentioned in the conditions or when you book.