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River sailors competitive??? Never.

Q Is that a fact? Not the transit line 30 yards from the bridge like last time?

Love this thread. So, BBC don’t run obviously bogus story, and get criticised for not fact-checking! This is the logic that gave us Brexit.

Whataboutery :the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue. "all too often, well-intentioned debate descends into whataboutery" Example. Person protest at statue of Slaver. Person on internet says “But what about Modern Slavery” Quite hard to be offended if something is so obviously accurate.

What on earth is your evidence for this statement? Who are “they” and what evidence do you have that they are ignoring it? It seems hugely more likely that those who are involved in this issue are much more likely to be sensitised to current issues than the average person. This is a classic example of Whataboutism.

So Red Kites are doing what seagulls do every day on every beach in the land. Will no one think of the children!

Is it Red Kites knicking people’s chips? Not really a real problem is it ?

We’re not vastly overpopulated. The 2019 forecast from the United Nation's Population Division (made before the COVID-19 pandemic) shows that world population growth peaked at 2.1% per year in 1968, has since dropped to 1.1%, and could drop even further to 0.1% by 2100, a growth rate not seen since pre-industrial revolution days.[95] Based on this, the UN Population Division expects the world population, which is at 7.8 billion as of 2020, to level out around 2100 at 10.9 billion (the median line),[96][97]assuming a continuing decrease in the global average fertility rate from 2.5 births per woman during the 2015–2020 period to 1.9 in 2095–2100, according to the medium-variant projection.[98]

I really like Chris Packham. He has spent his life encouraging an interest in the natural world in others. I'm sure I don't agree with everything he thinks but, hey ho, that's normal. He seems to create a lot of anger for opposing Blood Sports - that is, killing animals for fun - and loads of people, not just town-dwellers agree with him. I like reading this site, party because of the number of times I hear from people who see the world quite differently. But one of it's real Achilles heels is that the multiple-posters can assume that "everyone" agrees with their world view. For instance, it appears the norm here that "woke" is used as an insult, but I'd define it, as "trying to be sensitive to others feelings and views of the world" Also Climate Activist/Eco Warrior - "someone who has recognised that our future is under threat from our own actions". As Jim Jeffries says, ""We don't have to save the planet, we have to save ourselves. The planet doesn't care and will be glad once we're gone."

What’s “the other side of the story” on slavery? Opportunities to travel? Meet people from different cultures?

Ah, it’s a conspiracy!

That isn't Ludham - perhaps Ely? https://www.facebook.com/groups/ludhamilluminatedboatparade

Global trends are global trends, but anyone who thinks the economy isn't taking a massive hit from Brexit is making like an Ostrich!

Weak

Where is the evidence that this is true ??

We own a holiday cottage. We have double the bookings for next year than at the same time last year. People are wisely getting British holidays booked I assume because they think foreign travel may still be in doubt next year. It would be good if that were true of hire boats as it would give them confidence about revenue next year.

I think you’ve rather missed the whole point of marketing. Perhaps you would be happy with truthful slogans like: The Broads! More fun if it’s not raining! Or: The Broads! Some people have a good time! Others.... not so much Or perhaps: Life is hard and then you die and your boat probably won’t break down!

It always amazes me that people seem to believe what they read in the tabloids. A friend briefly worked at the Daily Mail 30 years ago. Day 1. Given a story. Made a couple of calls and went back to boss. “This story is wrong” Boss “You’ve been told what to write” Read your paper today and if it says “A close friend of the Princess said” that’s a made-up quote. If it’s “a neighbour said they were a quiet family” that’s a made-up quote. Tabloids have NO interest in the truth and if you complain they’ve lied about you, you get a call from a lawyer who points out that taking them to court will probably ruin you.

They lured/towed it to between Acle and Stokesby where they parted with it as its continued on in the direction of Yarmouth last night. Lots of advice from lots of people, but it was a problem as it was jumping up on boats, SUPs and the like. Not being aggressive at all but lots of kids in rowing boats, inflatable boats and the like the last few days, so luring it out was considered a least bad option.

Do they let dogs in?

It was we, when we were members of the EU that, quite sensibly, aligned waste policy throughout Europe. I for one look forward to a new deregulated free Britain where the rest of the EU countries are able to dump their waste on us. I think some of those sunlit uplands may work really well as landfill. Silver linings!

I understand why the BA want to discourage swimming. But we’ve swum dozens of times this year in Womack, as have our neighbours, and also Hickling, South Walsham, West Somerton and others I’ve forgotten. I’ve had a terrible spell of finger cuts from clumsy cooking all summer. So have had a series of open wounds. I’ve also gardened all summer - and shhh... don’t tell anyone but rodents, birds, reptiles, dogs, cats, deer, foxes, voles and a million others, they ALL just poo and pee right on the ground! Don’t use loos at all! Hazard! I loath the snowflake term, but doing things like having a cooling dip in a river used to be called “life”. Now it’s a hazard. “Like my mamma said, you only live till your dead” It’ll Shine When It Shines. Ozark Mountain Daredevils

It was dredged with a digger about 2 months ago. We approached drawing 3 foot 6 and very nearly ran abound about 20 yards from the entrance. Don’t remember the state of tide at the time.

There are lots of exceptions to all sorts of rules. Who has right if way if you come round a corner and a boat is stern-mooring on “your” side of the river?? You wait or go round them on the wrong side. It falls into that common sense part of life. But, I’ll have one more go. I am sailing in my boat which has a lot of sail. The river is quite busy. I approach a corner where my only line of sailing without tacking is close to the wrong side of the river. I’m fairly easy to see and my course is constant. 30 yards from the apex of the corner I think I may not make it - wind is annoying stuff and does all kinds of weird things. I start the engine. As I reach the corner I realise I’m just not going to make it. So I engage the drive and keep on the same course for 40 or 50 yards. I clear the corner and turn off the engine. I haven’t changed course or speed. Isn’t that ok? The alternative is, at the last minute I tack across the river at 90 degrees to the bank. Calling “I’ve got to tack” or “water” to sailors will get an instant response. On the Broads you’d have to pop over, and using diagrams explain the concept of tacking. Most have no idea what sailing boats are up to and while they might get the hang of it after while following you many still can’t work out why we’re zigzagging. So in the no engine scenario, some lunatic in a sailing boat on the wrong side of the river suddenly turned across us! Madman! I am suggesting that the first scenario is best for everyone. It’s not right or wrong but better