Polly Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Doug is undertaking a lot of work on Brilliant to get her frames and planks in best condition. We have bewildering conversations...... Timbo to the rescue! Like him, I have invested in Boatbuilding Manual (5th Edition). Unlike him, I wouldn't trust myself with a saw on Brilliant's hull, Japanese or otherwise. So I am in training to be an armchair boatbuilder. My aim is to make something approaching intelligent responses to Doug' s remarks! Actually, this is a super book! I think we should have got a copy years ago, because the why and wherefore of Brilliant's construction is very much explained here and it adds so much to the experience of having our beautiful saily. I always knew this boatbuilding thing was a bit of a dark art, and the language is just as complicated as that related to actually sailing her, but I am persevering....after 4 or 5 attempts , I finally figured out what a 'rabbet' was and mentally located ours! Happy days! Now just you watch Doug set a few hurdles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Polly said: My aim is to make something approaching intelligent responses to Doug' s remarks! I have an identical aim except I'm not limiting myself to Doug. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 is it an American book, as they call rabbet's what we would call rebates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound2Please Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 24 minutes ago, grendel said: is it an American book, as they call rabbet's what we would call rebates And there was me thinking that the thing being talked about here was of an adult nature... Charlie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellyloo Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 hour ago, grendel said: is it an American book, as they call rabbet's what we would call rebates I confess that I thought "Rabbet" is the correct term. Rabate is something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetAnne Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 You sure he wasn't just rabetting on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetAnne Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Yes I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrundallNavy Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just a few pictures to keep you going. Now Pauline where did I put me spokeshave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 Argh, I don't need any special language to describe that! On the plus side, that caulking looks as fresh as a daisy. The bilge pumps generally are never busy on Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetAnne Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Those screws in the first piccy suggest someone else has been there before you and not that many years ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The correct term is a rebate, linguistically speaking. Taken from Norse languages you get variations of rabat from Norway through Croatia France and Spain usually with a double 't' so we get rabatt. Now, for some reason, your American is easily confused between a rabatt, a rabat, a rabbet and a rabbit. To make sure that you are using the correct form of rabatt in your woodworking or boat building you need to listen and measure. If your tools are making sharp cutting sounds and you end up with one area of wood lower than the other then you are correctly creating a rabatt or rebate. If your tools are making a dull, squidgy squelching sound then you are incorrectly using a rabbit. If your tools are making a grinding noise and your timber has a nibbled appearance then you are using a rabbit or beaver...in which case you call WildFuzz. Timbo's guide to Douganese Silence followed by "Hmm" means 'This is going to be expensive or take a long time'. "You could" means 'only a complete idiot would do this'. "The way it's done is" means 'there are other ways but they are not the right way'. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 We are eliminating some short planks and doing internal 'surgery' so yes some stuff is coming out before it grows gills. Yes redefining said 'rabbet' to Phill made me translate it to 'rebate', no fluffy bunnies were harmed in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 24 minutes ago, Polly said: We are eliminating some short planks Leave me outta this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 And leave you out of the 'internal surgery'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Nah, that bit sounded fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 3 hours ago, MauriceMynah said: Nah, that bit sounded fun. I could help you out with that one!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Moi moind is a bogglin ther gall, I kid you not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 The lady has special skills ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrundallNavy Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 On 14/09/2017 at 16:57, JanetAnne said: Those screws in the first piccy suggest someone else has been there before you and not that many years ago? The plank was not too bad but the rib needs attention and a lot of planks have been removed to allow for the new ribs to be fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrundallNavy Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 12 hours ago, Polly said: The lady has special skills ! I hope you revising for the painting and varnishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 I was threatening MM with Kate's surgical skills Varnishing yes, painting? Oo oh that's a bit more scary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 Briiliant will be stronger and stiffer as a result of this work,....then she will have to have a smart paint job.....argh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Moustaches optional Pauline! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnYab9A2Aas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc3Qmcek49E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 I am relieved to hear they are optional! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 You mention a Japanese saw, I watched a fasinating documentary on Japanese wood working. It seems many tools that we would push like a plane they would pull. It showed a "Planing Competition" in fact it looked like they were working on masts as the wood was very long and round. The craftsman walked backwards dragging his plane which was two handed but much larger than our spokeshave and another held up the cigarette paper thin shaving that came off as one continuous piece more like the swarf off a lathe cutting mild steel when you have speed and feed spot on. I wonder what the Japanese Craftmen who learn their skills over many many years and have a status like that of surgeons in their society would think of the De Walt and Makita power tool competitions so beloved in parts of the US. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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