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Beware The Yare On The 31st May


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Perhaps they did not want to post before it happened in case it didnt happen - err - like it didnt.

Now having got myself thoroughly confused, the way I read it in the latest report was that the bridge opening was initially a trial to make sure it would work for the boat removal.

I am not sure the nesting birds theory holds water, after all if the bridge were lifting on a more regular basis, then the birds that tried to nest would just have to take their chances, though I guess if there was a nest and the chicks had just hatched, it would be nice to think they would wait a short time until they had fledged.

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8 hours ago, BroadAmbition said:

I remember the brief Brundall encounter - Would have been better over a coffee in the cafe or onboard.

Demand - Probably but sadly no longer by 'Ideal' clients!

Griff

I agree it would have been better over a coffee or onboard the legendary BA  but I think we were both on a bit of a mission to do  something that morning, I hope the offer is still open next time we meet.

Story of my life; whenever what seems to the the perfect business opportunity appears, someone always spoils it for me with a perfectly good reason.

Phil

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15 minutes ago, Baitrunner said:

And and if they have to test it before the big day, then it's still a way off unless the chicks are ready to fly off!

sounds like a complete cock up to me!!

from the newspaper article I read that they didnt say they had found nests, just that they needed to make sure there werent any - maybe someone remembered they should have checked at the last minute.

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Well, needless to say, nothing is happening in Norwich so it looks like the tweet was incorrect. I only posted it as it had been retweeted by Broads Beat. I thought they would have checked the facts. Sorry folks. Just another bit of fake news.

Colin :default_blush:

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Hopefully next week I'll get the chance to have a word with someone who will defiantly know as he is a active sea scout , that said it was blatantly obvious it was never going to be moved at anything other than a weekend and at night as for it not being scrapped that's something else I already knew via my sea scout friend , the vessel needs quite a lot of water under her even though she's unpowered  hence moving at high tide .

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Is this the Sea Scouts boat? 

Urgent Boating News – Vessel ‘Lord Nelson’ will be moved under tow from Norwich down the River Yare to Breydon on Sunday 24 June between 03:00 hrs and 10:00 hrs.  Vessels must keep clear and follow instruction given by Broads Authority Rangers

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14 minutes ago, NorfolkNog said:

Is this the Sea Scouts boat? 

Urgent Boating News – Vessel ‘Lord Nelson’ will be moved under tow from Norwich down the River Yare to Breydon on Sunday 24 June between 03:00 hrs and 10:00 hrs.  Vessels must keep clear and follow instruction given by Broads Authority Rangers

Yes it is.

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The BA refused to allow the gunboat "Morning Flight" to be towed down the river by her then new owners, as they considered she was not in a safe condition for the journey. That is how she ended up as a hulk in Jenners Basin. This was not a bad decision, I would add!

So let's see how they get on with the Lord Nelson, which has been sitting there in the water with no attention to her bottom for . . . . . . how many years is it now?

If she touches bottom on a falling tide and has to sit there, half dried out, until it turns again, the strain may well be too much for the hull to bear.

As I said, this could be fun.

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I wonder if there is still enough depth for her to be turned in the basin in the old port, near the new footbridge. If not she will have to go stern first right down to Trowse Eye. If there is still enough water there.

The Yare used to be dredged to 12 ft in the days of the sea-going coasters coming up to Norwich but I very much doubt if it has been maintained like that, ever since they built the Norwich southern bypass bridge, and so closed the port.

Luckily, I am not a betting man, or I might be offering odds against her getting any further than Postwick Grove. Or more likely Whitlingham bend, where there used to be a cattle swim and the banks are very shallow on both sides.

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22 minutes ago, Vaughan said:

I wonder if there is still enough depth for her to be turned in the basin in the old port, near the new footbridge. If not she will have to go stern first right down to Trowse Eye. If there is still enough water there.

The Yare used to be dredged to 12 ft in the days of the sea-going coasters coming up to Norwich but I very much doubt if it has been maintained like that, ever since they built the Norwich southern bypass bridge, and so closed the port.

Luckily, I am not a betting man, or I might be offering odds against her getting any further than Postwick Grove. Or more likely Whitlingham bend, where there used to be a cattle swim and the banks are very shallow on both sides.

Looking at the following, which was last surveyed in 2009 it would appear there is anywhere from 2m to 3.5m. Take off 1m for old shopping trolleys and bikes etc and it could be a bit tight. :default_icon_e_surprised:

http://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/514364/DEPTH__Norwich-Reach.pdf

Whitlingham bend

http://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/766303/DEPTH__Thorpe-Reach.pdf

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Not only that but the plating on the hull is pretty thin now by all accounts and being steel that'd going to be more on the waterline than anywhere else but does make a huge difference to its safety afloat under tow , the river is quite shallow in places but the main thing is I hope they have told the rowing club about this they are not famous for rowing on the wrong side of the river and coming around blind bends doing that for nothing .

In the words of Jeremy clarkson " what could possibly go wrong " :15_yum:

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I tend towards the optimistic side and assume whoever is doing the towing, will have done their homework and they'll know where any potential problem areas lie. I would imagine an 'escort' boat would head the tow and make sure that nothing 'strays' onto it's intended course. As far as the 'Lord Nelson' itself is concerned, again you have to assume that the old boat has been declared fit for it's final journey and will make it to Gt. Yarmouth without any problems. But, as we all know tide, weather and any number of imponderables can make fools of us all...

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Looking at the story on the EDP website linked to by Islander on the 2nd June, I think they have bigger things to worry about!

The plan is for the ship to be towed from its dock on the River Wensum to Martham Ferry Boat Yard in Great Yarmouth.

Once there it will be stripped and have the hull cleaned before making its way to the banks of the River Deben.

If it can make the river Deben, then a journey down the Yare assuming there is enough depth shouldn't be a problem, BUT how on earth are they going to tow it to Martham Ferry boat yard with out some major alterations to the infrastructure of the Lower Bure :default_rofl:

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37 minutes ago, EastCoastIPA said:

The plan is for the ship to be towed from its dock on the River Wensum to Martham Ferry Boat Yard in Great Yarmouth.

I think we can guess that this is another classic example of Archant journalistic research. I would think they mean Goodchilds.

Something that worries me is that the published tide tables put low water in Norwich at around 0515 on Sunday morning. That is low water.

If it were me, with a tow like that, I would like to leave Trowse about 2 hours before the high, to give good control against the current through the bad bits and then have the tide turn under me around Beauchamp Arms where the river is wider and generally deeper.

Maybe they are more concerned about getting to Reedham bridge while the tide is still against them, in case the thing doesn't open for them?

We shall see!

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