Harvey Eastwood 37

[JennyMorgan]

22 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said:

To Peter, Thanks for the link but I cant find the full version there. 

Scroll down, it's on the right near the bottom. Tenacious you should have no problem!

[BroadAmbition]

What do  you call a man with three planks of wood on his head?

 

Ed Wood Wood-Wood

Griff

[ChrisB]

2 hours ago, MauriceMynah said:

Wicker man was a good film, but quite recent.

Not this Wicker Man! (2006) The Wicker Man 1973 with Britt Ekland as Willow. Unless you is so old now yous thinking 47 years is recent like!

[floydraser]

It's got to be mentioned: Judi Dench used to call him Ewar Woowar after the D's failed in a theatre illuminated sign.

Or it's a Joe Pasquale joke, take your pick.

[MauriceMynah]

I don't think Edward Woodward was in that very recent one, the one I meant was the one he was in, the earlier of the recent Wicker Man films.

[MauriceMynah]

I must be getting thicker in my old age, or you aren't comparing the tracks Peter. The original theme (which is in that link peter is just under the minute in length. All the other versions on that link (that I can find) are very different.

[JennyMorgan]

2 hours ago, MauriceMynah said:

I must be getting thicker in my old age, or you aren't comparing the tracks Peter. The original theme (which is in that link peter is just under the minute in length. All the other versions on that link (that I can find) are very different.

Can't blame a bloke for trying!

[JennyMorgan]

4 hours ago, floydraser said:

Just for the record: this isn't the Denham Owl and looks like an earlier wooden hulled version. Nice all the same.

The one that I admired at the Stratford's place was more white than the one in the photo, if I remember correctly, and didn't have the blue-birds on the bow. Do you know if Denham Owl was designed by a man called Arnott Fowler?

[MauriceMynah]

26 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said:

Can't blame a bloke for trying!

I certainly don't, and thank you very much. If you can think of anywhere else I might find it, I would appreciate it.

[unclemike]

and another john

 

[MauriceMynah]

Thank you Mike, I think that one cracks it.

 

[floydraser]

7 hours ago, JennyMorgan said:

The one that I admired at the Stratford's place was more white than the one in the photo, if I remember correctly, and didn't have the blue-birds on the bow. Do you know if Denham Owl was designed by a man called Arnott Fowler?

Sorry Peter but no I don't, but hopefully someone may come along and educate us both. Arnott Fowler is a great name though! One of these days I'll try again to chase up Eastwood's records.

[Tobster]

Pete,

As promised, after speaking to my father,  so more info regarding Len Frampton & Dunham Owl.

Len Frampton and his family lived in Sussex, he was the owner of the Black Lion Hotel in Patcham Brighton. He was also the no: 2 too the Duke of Edinburgh of the National Licensed Victuallers Association.

Dad couldn’t remember how long Len had Denham Owl for, Its quiet possible he had her from new, Dad was almost convicted she was never part of the Harvey Eastwood fleet of hire craft, and was built as a private boat from new.

Whilst Len had her she was moored on Oulton Broad and Burgh st. Peter.

On completion of the sale to Edward Woodward, my Grandfather moved her to St Katherine’s Dock (London) via the sea with the engine governors removed and an escort boat & very favourable weather.

My father is also looking for a letter he has from EW to my grandparents, thanking them for there hospitality, when he viewed Denham Owl. when he finds it I will scan a copy for you to add to your history, of Denham Owl.

It seems she has taken quite a journey since she left The Broads, onto the Thames and then onto the Clyde. 

   

[Springsong]

My apologies if you already know this but the fibre glass hulled boats were either Aqua Fibre or Broom 37 hulls. one of the hire boats was stolen off the Broads and found ( if memory serves ) inBurnham on Crouch . So they were capable of coastal passages even the North Sea  or Channel.

[Boatingman]

Again an article re Santa Caterina being stolen is in Broadland memories news cuttings 1970's

Ray

[JennyMorgan]

12 minutes ago, Boatingman said:

Again an article re Santa Caterina being stolen is in Broadland memories news cuttings 1970's

Ray

As a result of which I believe that she was on the Hoseason's stand at the Boat Show.

[floydraser]

10 hours ago, Tobster said:

Pete,

As promised, after speaking to my father,  so more info regarding Len Frampton & Dunham Owl.

Len Frampton and his family lived in Sussex, he was the owner of the Black Lion Hotel in Patcham Brighton. He was also the no: 2 too the Duke of Edinburgh of the National Licensed Victuallers Association.

Dad couldn’t remember how long Len had Denham Owl for, Its quiet possible he had her from new, Dad was almost convicted she was never part of the Harvey Eastwood fleet of hire craft, and was built as a private boat from new.

Whilst Len had her she was moored on Oulton Broad and Burgh st. Peter.

On completion of the sale to Edward Woodward, my Grandfather moved her to St Katherine’s Dock (London) via the sea with the engine governors removed and an escort boat & very favourable weather.

My father is also looking for a letter he has from EW to my grandparents, thanking them for there hospitality, when he viewed Denham Owl. when he finds it I will scan a copy for you to add to your history, of Denham Owl.

It seems she has taken quite a journey since she left The Broads, onto the Thames and then onto the Clyde. 

   

Wow!

Thanks again Toby.

That info would all fit in with what I have so far: someone has already suggested that one of the Santa Caterinas was built to special order and there is more evidence that this could be it. The handrail goes all around the boat which I think would make it less practical as a hire boat; making mooring up a bit more involved as there is only one place either side to jump off. She also had quite substantial davits fitted across the stern making stern-on mooring nigh on impossible. That's another mod on my list as there is still a hefty great stainless bar in the way. Wouldn't it be great to uncover some early photos, there must be some somewhere....

There was a mystery over who fitted self-steering gear, an echo sounder and a compass. The echo sounder alone wouldn't be a mystery but I wondered who would want to take her onto the open sea from the Thames. So from Oulton Broad Len would have had easy access but surely with only the calmest of seas with Fergy tractor engine? A neighbour in the marina used to work for Brooms and tells me hull is an Ocean 37 "and good for about 35 knots"(?). "Er, not with this engine and not me aboard!" was my reply. 

I did do a brief Google search for an EW link just after I bought the boat but the only thing I could find was a reference in the biography of actor Robin Askwith who recalls dining on EW's boat in St Katherine's dock at a time when EW was going through an unpleasant divorce from his first wife. So that all lines up. Stand by for a thread drift towards confession films as I think most members here will have seen them all several times over!

Thanks again and fingers crossed the letter is found. I'm off to chase up the theft issue..

[floydraser]

4 hours ago, Springsong said:

My apologies if you already know this but the fibre glass hulled boats were either Aqua Fibre or Broom 37 hulls. one of the hire boats was stolen off the Broads and found ( if memory serves ) inBurnham on Crouch . So they were capable of coastal passages even the North Sea  or Channel.

Had a look and it seems a German family hired one and claimed they didn't realise they couldn't go to sea; ended up in Brightlingsea, Essex.

Found this link and stole it: http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/451

This film shows a typical 1971 sunshine family hiring a Santa Caterina. I'm not qualified to comment fully on the continuity but I think it may be a bit out. It's supposed to go under PH bridge but the actual shot changes to a different boat. Warning: the film contains images of female women in mini skirts!

[Tobster]

Pete,

if we find any photos I will scan and post for you.

Something else we remembered yesterday was that the name was displayed (sign written) both sides of the bow in white on top of the blue stripe, on the transom & on  both sides in white canvass with navy blue letters from the rear of the canopy to the stern, like a wind breaker hand rail to the deck.(hope you know what I mean.

 

[ChrisB]

Robin Askwith was a school friend of mine. We both attended Merchant Taylors, Northwood. Lost touch after leaving, last I heard he was in Gozo.

3 hours ago, floydraser said:

 

I did do a brief Google search for an EW link just after I bought the boat but the only thing I could find was a reference in the biography of actor Robin Askwith who recalls dining on EW's boat in St Katherine's dock at a time when EW was going through an unpleasant divorce from his first wife. So that all lines up. Stand by for a thread drift towards confession films as I think most members here will have seen them all several times over!

Thanks again and fingers crossed the letter is found. I'm off to chase up the theft issue..

 

[WherryNice]

Cracking promo film there, anyone know if that was that Jimmy Hoseason himself narrating at the start?

 

[Vaughan]

1 hour ago, WherryNice said:

Cracking promo film there, anyone know if that was that Jimmy Hoseason himself narrating at the start?

That was definitely NOT Jimmy speaking in the film! That was someone from the film company trying to approximate a Norfolk accent and, to my ear, failing miserably!

Jimmy spoke with the accent of a B.O.A.C. airline pilot, which is what he was after the War and before giving that up to come into his father's business.

Hence the B.O.A.C. bluebird emblem, which he used on the bows of all the boats. Not sure how he got away with that!

[grendel]

of course they failed miserably, you could understand every word.

[floydraser]

1 hour ago, Vaughan said:

That was definitely NOT Jimmy speaking in the film! That was someone from the film company trying to approximate a Norfolk accent and, to my ear, failing miserably!

Ah if only they had the internet back then. I used an online Norfolk dialect tool for my book but can't find it just now. The film was made by Godfrey Davies of Birmingham so he probably didn't understand how passionate East Anglians are about their way of life. Jimmy Hoseason would have sounded a whole lot better!

[floydraser]

3 hours ago, Tobster said:

Pete,

if we find any photos I will scan and post for you.

Something else we remembered yesterday was that the name was displayed (sign written) both sides of the bow in white on top of the blue stripe, on the transom & on  both sides in white canvass with navy blue letters from the rear of the canopy to the stern, like a wind breaker hand rail to the deck.(hope you know what I mean.

 

It gets better...

I'll have a look for the traces of that sign writing and if possible restore it. The one thing I hate about the Owl is those sloping name signs on the bow!

I think I understand the wind break thing but that is where the top of the handrail lifts for access.