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Chelsea14Ian

The Poppy Appeal

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Today the Royal British legion begin there poppy appeal.My grandfather served in the Royal horse Artillery during the First world war. Indeed his Horse saved his life once.My Father was a miner during the second wold war, after the war he served in the RAF.For all those that gave there life We shell not forget.Wear your Poppy with pride.

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Both my Grandfathers were gassed seperately in the Somme and neither lived beyond 50 years, Ian. So I wear my poppy with both Prida and Sadness that I never knew them.  :default_icon_clap:  :default_sad:

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My father died when I was 18 months old (1956).Sadly I never got to know him.My Grandfather always wore his medals on November 11.I think Nicola an Alan may have got there love of horses from him.Indeed Nicola has got her own horse Whizz.Both have been riding since a early age.

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Today and yesterday, I helped out collecting at our local Sainsbury.Thanks to the public for donationing.

Last year we collected,Over 24 thousand pounds, and the branch over 54k.I always enjoy doing so.Its also great to hear people storeysThen the children many of which have spoken about the meaning of the appeal at school.We always get a good response from the public.For me I am helping next Friday and Saturday. 

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I just found this out recently

My Granny ( no longer with us) lost her husband in the war. She never ever bought or wore a poppy. The reason being , her husbands body was never found, and was deemed MIA, she therefore never recieved a penny of help , he ( and others ) were treated and regarded as potential deserters.

How utterly sad is that.

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I bought 4 poppies in the Bell at St Olaves the other day, I put my money in the box as I ordered at the bar only to realise after I had I'd put it in a collection box for another charity :facepalm:

I duly added money into the correct box for the poppies as well afterwards and now have it on display at all times.

Money well spent, in both collection boxes regardless.

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1 hour ago, Wonderwall said:

I just found this out recently

My Granny ( no longer with us) lost her husband in the war. She never ever bought or wore a poppy. The reason being , her husbands body was never found, and was deemed MIA, she therefore never recieved a penny of help , he ( and others ) were treated and regarded as potential deserters.

How utterly sad is that.

I find that very sad and strange. There were thousands upon thousands of men MIA whose bodies were never found, hence the memorials like the Menin Gate, Thiepval, Tyne Cot and so many more. Why should some be classed as potential deserters?

 

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12 minutes ago, vanessan said:

I find that very sad and strange. There were thousands upon thousands of men MIA whose bodies were never found, hence the memorials like the Menin Gate, Thiepval, Tyne Cot and so many more. Why should some be classed as potential deserters?

 

I have no idea, as I mentioned , I only recently found this out . It may be that all MIA recieved no monies, my granny certainly didn't .  I was very young when she died , but apparently she often questioned where the money raised from the poppy appeal went , because she was left to raise a family of 2 without a breadwinner. 

I shall try and find out more about it , unfortunately all the people who knew her well are becoming less and less!  

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Googling the poppy appeal, the appeal was first set up in 1921. Monies raised were (and still are I believe) used to help veterans of wars with employment and housing. The Royal British Legion was set up that year too and have helped veterans, widows and their families ever since. I wonder why your gran missed out, something must have gone horribly wrong for her to have been overlooked. I don’t suppose there is any way of finding out now?

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3 hours ago, Wonderwall said:

I have no idea, as I mentioned , I only recently found this out . It may be that all MIA recieved no monies, my granny certainly didn't .  I was very young when she died , but apparently she often questioned where the money raised from the poppy appeal went , because she was left to raise a family of 2 without a breadwinner. 

I shall try and find out more about it , unfortunately all the people who knew her well are becoming less and less!  

I have no idea,as others said many were MIA.What I would suggest if you know His Regiment,contact them they will have a record of him and may be able to shed light on why your grandmother received no help,and also contact the Royal British legion. Hope that's helpful. 

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Most British Legion Clubs have a pensions Officer, My dad was one in his spare time. A great many servicement were overlooked for a variety of reasons. During the 1980s he was still arranging for ex far east prisoners to go and have specialist tropical disease treatment because both the military and the NHS had missed treating them.

Ireland had a particularly bad record of treatment of ex WW2 servicemen. They were being deliberately denied normal benefits, as were their families through till the 1990s.

 

 

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image.png.c3df05bbf49cb689d8f00d6ae0c1528f.pngMy  My dad wanted nothing to do with the 'Legion'...

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From the EDP yesterday

12,000 lives were lost in Norfolk during WWI, the greatest sacrifice made by any part of the country

PUBLISHED: 13:56 04 November 2018

Derek James

The 12th Norfolk (Norfolk Yeomanry) returning home  Picture: Archant library

The 12th Norfolk (Norfolk Yeomanry) returning home Picture: Archant library

 

You'd have thought the EDP could have least honoured the men by getting it right

 

12000 me were Lost BY Norfolk in Northern France and Belgium, not IN Norfolk

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If any of you are moored in Barton Broad area this week there is a Poppy Trail around the parish with boards outside the homes of those who fell in WW1

 

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4 hours ago, TheQ said:

From the EDP yesterday

12,000 lives were lost in Norfolk during WWI, the greatest sacrifice made by any part of the country

PUBLISHED: 13:56 04 November 2018

Derek James

The 12th Norfolk (Norfolk Yeomanry) returning home  Picture: Archant library

The 12th Norfolk (Norfolk Yeomanry) returning home Picture: Archant library

 

You'd have thought the EDP could have least honoured the men by getting it right

 

12000 me were Lost BY Norfolk in Northern France and Belgium, not IN Norfolk

Semantics Mr Q, Semantcs. The figures may be accurate, they may not,  but it is the loss that is the point, and it is the loss we remember.

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