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MauriceMynah

Countryfile 10/02/2019

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1 hour ago, kingfisher666 said:

'English Nature' (the government) gives it's approval and that's what matters,

"I wouldn't belong to any club who'd have me as a member."   (Groucho Marx)

English Nature or natural England is not an organisation I have any faith in.

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11 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said:

"English Nature or natural England is not an organisation I have any faith in".

Nor me, to be honest. But, as the government agency charged with overseeing such projects, they're the people the Broads Authority have to please, or the required dredging just won't happen...

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I don't have a problem with what is being done on Hickling with the dredging or the way the spoil is being used and what it will create but I do have a problem with the spin as to the extent it will benefit wildlife and also on blaming the limited number of boats that can use the area for causing problems with clouding the water, it would also be nice if they got their facts right as last time I counted there were more than five rivers feeding the Norfolk-Suffolk broads, the Thurne windmill part was interesting though.

Fred

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What they did not say it is in part being funded by Europe and is a CANAPE project - Creating a New Approach to Peatland Ecosystems! Hows that for an acronym??. And new reedbeds will benefit wildlife and will help get rid of those very shallow stagnant bays that surround Hickling and which are caused by the geese eating the reeds and leaving it open to wave action. What they have managed over the last few years has made a measurable improvement to the surrounds in some areas around Hickling and this is an extension of that. And doesn't everyone, including individuals, blow their own trumpet if they are achieving something - and why not???

And Fred of course you are right about the rivers - there must be several hundred  as indeed there are forming every single river in the world! Naming all the tributaries would have taken all the programme - there has to be some editing methinks!!!

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Perhaps I am stating the obvious but I do know that Countryfile was in contact with the Authority regarding the BNP tag, subsequently Countryfile chose to delete any mention of the BNP. I can only guess that the information hastily supplied by a number of the so called 'awkward squad' outweighed the spin originating from on high. Yes, you could perhaps accuse Countryfile of being judge and jury but on this occasion reality and honesty came to the fore.  From when JP announced that the Broads was to be featured on Countryfile to the actual broadcast date was not long. BBC researchers were therefore quick off the mark! My hat is well and truly off to the BBC, obviously we can trust their information. Countryfile has acknowledged the legal position, as I've posted before the Campaign for National Parks has also acknowledged that same legal position and even JP has grudgingly acknowledged it when challenged, it must be true then! 

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1 hour ago, marshman said:

What they did not say it is in part being funded by Europe and is a CANAPE project - Creating a New Approach to Peatland Ecosystems! Hows that for an acronym??. And new reedbeds will benefit wildlife and will help get rid of those very shallow stagnant bays that surround Hickling and which are caused by the geese eating the reeds and leaving it open to wave action. What they have managed over the last few years has made a measurable improvement to the surrounds in some areas around Hickling and this is an extension of that. And doesn't everyone, including individuals, blow their own trumpet if they are achieving something - and why not???

And Fred of course you are right about the rivers - there must be several hundred  as indeed there are forming every single river in the world! Naming all the tributaries would have taken all the programme - there has to be some editing methinks!!!

I wasn`t talking about hundreds just the 7 navigable ones, I agree its an improvement it was just  the exaggerated statement boats cause the problem with no mention of the benefits they bring to the broads.

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In the case of Hickling when the wind 'hully hosses acroorse t' Broad' in trues Norfolk style, whipping up the waves, mud banks can and are washed away only to be recreated elsewhere on the Broads. Nature itself can lift and stir up the silt on a far greater scale than ever do boats. Ask any angler, the water is far more likely to be coloured with silt after a gale than it ever it is by boats.

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JM dont you mean, by the few boats that can get through that bridge? they will tend to be saileys and smaller boats as a rule.

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3 hours ago, grendel said:

JM dont you mean, by the few boats that can get through that bridge? they will tend to be saileys and smaller boats as a rule.

It's the same on Oulton Broad and I suspect other Broads too.

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Just to clarify my comment I am not being pedantic but when a public information broadcaster like the BBC puts out informative programmes then they need to be accurate, I have noticed inaccuracies on Country File and similar programmes with a semi-political agenda before  and while we may know better it is very easy to give people who don't a misleading impression and guide them into taking a viewpoint that suits the objectives , we already have our own past master at that.

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Fred - you are being pedantic!! Is the BBC really regarded still as an accurate public information service anymore than say, a newspaper? Why should the BBC be more accurate than any other news, or information, provider?

In fact I find them a very biased, especially their news programmes, and I am afraid I expect them to be no more accurate than the Daily Mail - and that about says it all! Countryfile is prepared by humans and as it goes out at peak viewing times on a weekly basis, I would take all they say as being unverified - my guess is that they are more interested in providing good television rather than facts you can stake your life on!

However thats only my view....

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51 minutes ago, marshman said:

my guess is that they are more interested in providing good television

I quite agree except for the bit about "good" television.

I fear that there is nowadays a genre of TV presenter which dishes out vapid "early evening" dross such as the One Show, who have never forgotten their Blue Peter origins and have thus never quite grown up.

Personally, I think the Broads got away with that programme quite lightly. It could have been a lot worse!

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1 hour ago, marshman said:

I would take all they say as being unverified

They obviously verified the BNP status! Can't knock them for that. Sorry, couldn't resist!

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25 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said:

They obviously verified the BNP status! Can't knock them for that. Sorry, couldn't resist!

probably had all those previous letters of complaint from you on file Peter, and decided discretion was the better course...

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