Spirit Of Breydon On The Move

[marshman]

Pete - I too believe you don't tell lies, but all I can say is that the Rangers I know, don't seem to either know of it, or have read it! You takes your pick....!

On the question of turnover, Mr Google says the average yearly turnover in a UK is around 15% p.a.  - even higher than I thought!! No wonder HR departments flourish!!!!!

 

[Vaughan]

2 hours ago, marshman said:

around 15% p.a.  - even higher than I thought!! No wonder HR departments flourish!!!!!

And in my experience, it is the totally callous attitude of the HR departments towards their own employees that is largely responsible for the high rate of attrition.

[marshman]

Interesting to see the other day the employees of Deutsche Bank walking out with their pot plants. If I recall my days in the City and how its done, you get escorted back to your desk by the security guard who will then give you 5 mins to clear your desk, you are not allowed to touch your computer, and you are then escorted from the building, having handed over your keys, if you had any, oh and including any car keys if it was theirs!!! Now it seems that instead of getting to discuss it with HR, you just get an email instead!

Bit easier now in retirement!!

[Vaughan]

Any young officer coming into the armed forces gets extensive training in man management, which then has to be "fine tuned" in practice. The basis is that if you want your men to be loyal to you, then you have to be loyal to them.

This has nothing to do with HR, who are simply there to cut costs and employees are simply seen as an expense. Loyalty has no place in modern corporate management, as it has no direct "impact on the Bottom Line".

[Paul]

7 minutes ago, Vaughan said:

as it has no direct "impact on the Bottom Line

That's the HR view, it has no calculable impact on the bottom line, however intelligent employers realise the morale and loyalty of experienced staff has a very real impact on your bottom line. To quote another Branson one liner (I'm not a fan either) ... "Look after your staff, and your staff will look after your customers"

This of course breaks down when the company, or organisation in question has no accountability to it's customers. In such cases HR madness can run unchecked. 

 

[SPEEDTRIPLE]

Something else I find hard to swallow is when the management tell the workforce there will be redundancies and a relocation an restructuring because it's beneficial for the company's future. Completely detrimental to those who lose their jobs though, and then the management question their loyalty. Another one is when you bring up loyalty to the employee, only to have the manager tell you their loyalty to you ends with your wage packet. I've given that answer back at times, and it meets with a strong look of annoyance. 

[grendel]

I am lucky to work in a company that truly believes its biggest asset is its staff, this is why we have paid for social events and get yoga paid for once a week. this is also why this year in our second year of entry we made no 8 in the extra large workplaces in the great places to work listings.

[ChrisB]

You can be put on "Gardening Leave" (ie don't come to work) on full pay and you can be paid in lieu of notice and consultation periods. But if your company car is part of your contract of employment then you are entitled to  personal use of the car for you notice period. I had my last company car for six month after I effectively had gone.

[grendel]

it can depend upon the circumstances, if you are moving to a competitor then it will be straight out the door, and there is usually a rider that you cant start with the competitor until your notice period expires.

[ChrisB]

16 minutes ago, grendel said:

it can depend upon the circumstances, if you are moving to a competitor then it will be straight out the door, and there is usually a rider that you cant start with the competitor until your notice period expires.

Naturally, I could not work for a competitor for 6 months.

[Turnoar]

Any test pilots scheduled yet, be interesting to see how much fuel she would spirit away on a trip to bleydon and back! Any idea how many knots on full chat?

[JennyMorgan]

The spin department is hard at it!

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/broads-authority-sell-spirit-of-breydon-1-6160569

[CambridgeCabby]

7 hours ago, grendel said:

I am lucky to work in a company that truly believes its biggest asset is its staff, this is why we have paid for social events and get yoga paid for once a week. this is also why this year in our second year of entry we made no 8 in the extra large workplaces in the great places to work listings.

Ah , yoga , that explains your svelte lithe physique !!! 

[grendel]

5 hours ago, CambridgeCabby said:

Ah , yoga , that explains your svelte lithe physique !!! 

[KaptinKev]

On ‎12‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 18:58, PaulM said:

As I’m new to the broads in any depth (no pun intended) I’ve been amazed to learn how comprehensively unloved the BA are.

Is there one particular “man in charge” who is responsible for every decision? Or is it a committee that by vote come to the wrong decision? 

Are they out of touch with the real needs? or just misguided in the execution of what had the potential to be the right thing to do?

 

What I have learnt on here that the BA are like your local council, they are wannabe MP's, but haven't got the gift of gab!

[grendel]

I dont know, generally i think the BA staff on the rivers are seen as helpful a friendly, it just seems that those running things at the top are seen in a lesser light by more than a few.

[KaptinKev]

Also what I have learnt from these forums is that Rangers tend to treat general knowledge as rocket science. There day seems to be going up and down the broads, trundling along in their boat, taking down boat info, watching speed of boats and if anyone is abusing 24hr moorings or fishing out of season, they will not be man enough for confrontation.

Please correct me if I am wrong!

[grendel]

57 minutes ago, KaptinKev said:

Also what I have learnt from these forums is that Rangers tend to treat general knowledge as rocket science. There day seems to be going up and down the broads, trundling along in their boat, taking down boat info, watching speed of boats and if anyone is abusing 24hr moorings or fishing out of season, they will not be man enough for confrontation.

Please correct me if I am wrong!

surely you are just saying here that they are doing their job, checking boats are registered and tolled, warning boats that they are exceeding the speed limits, I am sure they also check for overstaying on the 24 hour moorings, is fishing within their remit, or is that a different department (i dont know the answer to that one), as for avoiding confrontation, well that too is their job, to warn people in a nice manner, without allowing it to become an incident.

[JawsOrca]

59 minutes ago, KaptinKev said:

Also what I have learnt from these forums is that Rangers tend to treat general knowledge as rocket science. There day seems to be going up and down the broads, trundling along in their boat, taking down boat info, watching speed of boats and if anyone is abusing 24hr moorings or fishing out of season, they will not be man enough for confrontation.

Please correct me if I am wrong!

Dunno about that, 50% of the ranger interactions we've had have been pleasant, the other the Rangers; have been giving out the wrong information (Including telling me I couldn't travel at night), confrontational, (screaming telling me i don't have a licence for the dinghy then after opening his eyes and seeing the plate telling me not to go anywhere whilst he goes and checks then saying he will come and look for us), (Funnily the same one), Telling dangerous advice in my book (Go through Yarmouth at any state of the tide), navigating without due care and almost driving in us, then saying I'm speeding then being a sarcastic little **** when he worked out he messed up, ignoring talking to us, panicking when there's no need (Reedham quay!), doing a knot where it couldn't be undone without cutting the ropes.. I understand the Thames rangers are a lot worse but we are certainly getting there.

[JennyMorgan]

I can say with some feeling that as far as the full-time Rangers are concerned I have yet to meet a duff one. As far as the seasonal ones are concerned I have met both able and helpful and regretfully one or two that have not been so helpful and certainly not so able. 

[KaptinKev]

8 minutes ago, grendel said:

surely you are just saying here that they are doing their job, checking boats are registered and tolled, warning boats that they are exceeding the speed limits, I am sure they also check for overstaying on the 24 hour moorings, is fishing within their remit, or is that a different department (i dont know the answer to that one), as for avoiding confrontation, well that too is their job, to warn people in a nice manner, without allowing it to become an incident.

That's what I like about the moderators on here, so diplomatic!

[grendel]

I think its like anywhere else, you only really hear the bad stories, you dont get to  hear the good experiences that probably outnumber the bad ones 10-1 because it doesnt occur to people to mention when they get good friendly service, whereas one incident of bad service gets flagged up, giving a biased view of reality.  its only when you ask that people respond with incidents of good service to counter those bad experiences

 

[ExSurveyor]

I had a very bad experience with one ranger who caused damage to a window, i shouted loudly about it, the rest of my encounters have been a cheerful wave. We never comment on the good encounters.

[KaptinKev]

9 minutes ago, psychicsurveyor said:

 We never comment on the good encounters.

So why not make a fresh start and do so!

[ExSurveyor]

After you.