Vagabond Restaurant Escort

[Vaughan]

So who pays for all that, I wonder?

And what happens next?

[D46]

1 hour ago, Vaughan said:

So who pays for all that, I wonder?

And what happens next?

Well in my mind it all falls to the new owner , BA were only about for escort duty ie safety nothing else , even the rangers wages etc should fall to the new owner but that remains to be seen I suppose .

The vessel cost basically fell like a rock off a cliff the last figure I heard was 10k and that a long time ago so could have been much cheaper than that , factoring in the fact that it's largely believed this is going to become a house boat , as long as the hull is sound it seams an utter bargain given its potential . 

[JennyMorgan]

15 minutes ago, D46 said:

as long as the hull is sound it seams an utter bargain given its potential . 

Obviously all subject to survey but if she needs slipping or dry-docking then she could be very expensive. It was thought by some that she was so far gone that it was dangerous to move her. I dread to think that she'll be abandoned.

[D46]

19 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said:

Obviously all subject to survey but if she needs slipping or dry-docking then she could be very expensive. It was thought by some that she was so far gone that it was dangerous to move her. I dread to think that she'll be abandoned.

Absolutely agree , TBH it should have been surveyed before moving , I do know that the sea scouts vessel was surveyed regularly for insurance and was found to be lacking hence one if the reasons she was sold off , she was steel where as vagabond I believe is an iron hull , not totally sure but I think the fair better than steel hulls , either way only a fool would move it after being there for long with no maintainace without extensively checking the integrity of the hull .

[Vaughan]

1 hour ago, D46 said:

factoring in the fact that it's largely believed this is going to become a house boat ,

But surely, the BA have pronounced themselves against houseboats, on the Broads?

"Thou shalt not live aboard".

So is this one now to be an exception ; that "proves the rule"?

[floydraser]

It's a Dutch barge - just add a gallon of petrol and a match - that'll sort it! 

[D46]

16 minutes ago, Vaughan said:

But surely, the BA have pronounced themselves against houseboats, on the Broads?

"Thou shalt not live aboard".

So is this one now to be an exception ; that "proves the rule"?

No not really I hardly think it's the first liveaboard there are loads of them lots in Marina's n not just WRC .

TBH I think they need a rethink at BA regarding living afloat it's actually very sensable IMHO .

[D46]

5 minutes ago, floydraser said:

It's a Dutch barge - just add a gallon of petrol and a match - that'll sort it! 

Subject to it's metal hull and superstructure being able to burn , obviously it will eventually but one's gonna need a lot more than a gallon of petrol , besides is 70 yrs old not exactly how to treat a pensioner really .

[grendel]

2 minutes ago, D46 said:

besides is 70 yrs old not exactly how to treat a pensioner really .

home isolation for 3 months?

[Bytheriver]

23 minutes ago, D46 said:

No not really I hardly think it's the first liveaboard there are loads of them lots in Marina's n not just WRC .

TBH I think they need a rethink at BA regarding living afloat it's actually very sensable IMHO .

BA are Consulting on Living Aboard right now (See their FB page) https://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/planning/planning-policies?fbclid=IwAR2HNByqYTmpzg8a3JCP708P8scvNoTZi_bMI5bnhMZwezk6HyNuzrgxX5U

[D46]

1 hour ago, Bytheriver said:

BA are Consulting on Living Aboard right now (See their FB page) https://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/planning/planning-policies?fbclid=IwAR2HNByqYTmpzg8a3JCP708P8scvNoTZi_bMI5bnhMZwezk6HyNuzrgxX5U

Unfortunately they seem to have totally forgotten that not all live in a Marina , now while most of those that don't play by the rules especially on BA moorings which if tolled they are entitled to use some regrettably don't , they cause huge problems not only for those following the rules but other boater's too , worse still is the element of boater's that can't see the difference and assume that all those that live afloat are the same .

To me BA have missed an opportunity here but that's just a personal opinion , I'll expect on mass comments saying that all boats have to have a home mooring which is completely untrue but hey all opinions are accepted in a fair and reasonable world .

[ExSurveyor]

Hopefully if it is to become a liverboard it will find a residential mooring, It could cause havoc bouncing back and forwards between 24 hour moorings

[D46]

27 minutes ago, psychicsurveyor said:

Hopefully if it is to become a liverboard it will find a residential mooring, It could cause havoc bouncing back and forwards between 24 hour moorings

There are vessels bigger than that using BA moorings now and again , besides there are no restrictions on vessels mooring on a BA mooring size wise , all that's required is enough room .

As for a residential mooring I really can't see that at WRC , then again there's one just as big there , to me the obvious thing is the lack of ability to moor stern on .

If it's sound then I would make a brilliant liveaboard vessel with masses of room .

[Boaters]

If irs going up the Bure ? Then maybe it will end up at Acle as the new Visitor Centre 

[CambridgeCabby]

9 minutes ago, Boaters said:

If irs going up the Bure ? Then maybe it will end up at Acle as the new Visitor Centre 

Said in jest I know but tbh would be a fitting solution for the barge and JM’s aspirations 

[JennyMorgan]

24 minutes ago, CambridgeCabby said:

Said in jest I know but tbh would be a fitting solution for the barge and JM’s aspirations 

But how many 24hr moorings would we lose?

Perhaps she could be club house for a sailing club? 

Whatever, she will require a lot of mooring space, and possibly a lot of re-plating!

[CambridgeCabby]

52 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said:

But how many 24hr moorings would we lose?

Perhaps she could be club house for a sailing club? 

Whatever, she will require a lot of mooring space, and possibly a lot of re-plating!

None if she were moored adjacent to the tea room moorings 

[BroadsAuthority]

20 hours ago, Vaughan said:

So who pays for all that, I wonder?

And what happens next?

All of the time spent by our staff involved in the escort was paid for by the owner.

I gather the move went well and she's now in the temporary location whilst works are undertaken by contractors.

Tom

[LizG]

The EDP has a report online.  There are a few more photos but none of the bridges being opened.  Hopefully someone did capture that as it might be the last time both Carrow Bridge and Trowse Swing Bridge  get opened!

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/norwich-s-floating-restaurant-vagabond-has-been-towed-out-of-the-city-centre-1-6565501

[D46]

I doubt it will be long before it off down the River , half the superstructure was removed on Monday and the rear half is not putting up a protest either , add to that the tugs have remained on site then I'm fairly sure it will be moving soon .

Now hopefully the authority will keep those on the river informed and give a decent level of notice of the impending moment .

[Turnoar]

Hope the windows in the freeboard are shut tight before she goes seawards! Is it a coast hop or a sea crossing?

[JennyMorgan]

If I read the EDP article correctly then she is being assessed before being allowed through Gt Yarmouth. Through meaning her going to sea and leaving the Broads? 

[NorfolkNog]

Good grief. Is it insured? Top heavy can't be in it. 

[JennyMorgan]

5 minutes ago, Turnoar said:

Hope the windows in the freeboard are shut tight

If she is going to sea then I suspect that any questionable orifices will be simply and suitably welded up. 

[JennyMorgan]

2 minutes ago, NorfolkNog said:

Good grief. Is it insured? Top heavy can't be in it. 

I suspect that all the non original top-hamper is coming off. I would imagine that for her to pass through Gt Yarmouth {Peel Ports) that she has to be insured. She was once a sea-going ship so, theoretically, she could be again.