Corona Virus

[grendel]

just looked at that ebay listing - £168 for 28 bottles that normally sell for around 50p each, thats a 10x price hike, more worrying is someone was desperate enough to pay that amount.

[vanessan]

1 hour ago, grendel said:

just looked at that ebay listing - £168 for 28 bottles that normally sell for around 50p each, thats a 10x price hike, more worrying is someone was desperate enough to pay that amount.

Be cheaper to carry round a cloth soaked in vodka/gin/scotch! I see Asda do a bottle of vodka for £5.75  - that would soak a few cloths. 😷

[Chelsea14Ian]

Hand sanitizer  are good,but the advice is frequent hand washing. 

[Smoggy]

Some virus's don't die from alcohol wash they just get stickier so stay on surfaces easier, and some bacteria do well with it too, I think it's C-diff that is better killed off with soap and water than alcohol gel.

A hydrocarbon with water does the diesel bug no harm after all......

[Smoggy]

You can now call it SARS if you like. (it is NOT the same disease as previous SARS, it's just a descriptive acronym, like COPD covers a wide range of issues)

https://ad.easa.europa.eu/blob/EASA_SIB_2020_02_R2.pdf/SIB_2020-02R2_1

[ChrisB]

I think that you will find the alcohol in propriety handgels are in there as a quite drying agent. Brand names such as Carex have a comprehensive mix of anti- bacterials in their gels and handwashes. These days you can't just claim kills 99%. Sure that is in Lab conditions but never the less they have to work.

[Smoggy]

9 minutes ago, ChrisB said:

Carex have a comprehensive mix of anti- bacterials in their gels and handwashes.

The problem there is that so many people don't understand that bacterial infections and viruses are different beasts entirely, they tend to just think "germs", usually the same idiots that run to the docs and demand antibiotics for a common cold.

[MauriceMynah]

I know this is slight "thread drift" but ...a rather big "but", We know that face masks offer no protection from catching the virus, but does assist the reduction of it's spreading from an infected wearer.

Surely therefore there will be no "panic buying" of face masks, there will be no "profiteering from fear" and there will be no holding society to ransom.

SO, the fellow buying all the stock of face masks was, in reality, buying stock with a view of selling it on at a profit. This is just common business practice. Similar may be said of those buying anti bacteria hand cleanser, and given that it may or may not help, and also bearing in mind that soap and water we are told is effective, then these people have no case to answer.

Maybe the "hang 'em high" committee has slightly missed the point... as have those people buying the stuff! 

[TheQ]

Following up on my post yesterday https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51674743

[Minigem]

If you cant get hand sanitizer I think standard surgical spirit should work ok. under £2 for 200 ml. You could probably stretch it a bit by diluting 50 50 with water. Mind you Aldi's white rum would be cheaper, at least if you catch the virus you could drink it to drown your sorrows.

[grendel]

as we have hand sanitiser gel dispensers at work, it was a breeze to top up my nearly empty bottle on my desk.

[ChrisB]

27 minutes ago, grendel said:

as we have hand sanitiser gel dispensers at work, it was a breeze to top up my nearly empty bottle on my desk.

With the price climbing? Watch that does not become a taxable benefit in kind.

[Malanka]

One of the simplest and hardest things to do is one which I learned as a lab based microbiologist almost 36 years ago. It’s simple and hard: DON’T TOUCH YOUR FACE. 
 

You would be amazed how frequently most people do this. All the mask wearing hand sanitizing and washing is not going to work if you keep touching your face. 
 

So follow the government advice, WHO advice.

and: 

DON’T TOUCH YOUR FACE. 
 

Martin 

[grendel]

1 hour ago, Malanka said:

You would be amazed how frequently most people do this. All the mask wearing hand sanitizing and washing is not going to work if you keep touching your face. 

do you know where i can get some handcuffs (asking for a friend) as this would be the only way I  He could manage this.

[Islander]

6 minutes ago, grendel said:

do you know where i can get some handcuffs (asking for a friend) as this would be the only way I  He could manage this.

Now I know I'm on the right forum. I was off down the shed to find the cone collar the dog had to ware but the handcuffs sound more fun.

Colin 

[Ray]

14 minutes ago, grendel said:

do you know where i can get some handcuffs (asking for a friend) as this would be the only way I  He could manage this.

If anyone here could make a pair of working handcuffs my money would be on you Grendel 🍺

[Polly]

Yes you do start noticing when you touch your face, it is hard to train yourself out of it. 
Will handcuffs then be the next ‘out of stock’ item d’you think? 🤪

[Polly]

Grendel was ‘asking for a friend’.

[ExSurveyor]

Cable ties work as well, my friend said.

[rightsaidfred]

Maybe if the various forms of media stopped whipping up the panic they seem to specialise in with various current issues we will all be the better off, while this is of some concern it is by no means a major catastrophy at the moment, world wide numbers wise it is still very small scale and dosnt warrant all the hype it is being given.

Fred

[Malanka]

Grendel do you want fluffy pink ones ? Polly might have a pair lying about. 
 

M 

[princess]

3 hours ago, Polly said:

Yes you do start noticing when you touch your face, it is hard to train yourself out of it. 
Will handcuffs then be the next ‘out of stock’ item d’you think? 🤪

its ok ive a few pairs could let you have and leg shackles

 

[JennyMorgan]

Back to the harsh reality. It would seem to me that anyone contemplating a holiday abroad must by now be fully aware that there is a very real risk of being quarantined, either at destination or on return home. That hundreds of flights have already been cancelled speaks volumes. Health care professionals that I personally know are worried and there don't appear to be any predictions as to when this will burn itself out. I would guess that the foreign holiday industry is in for a severe kicking this year. Will such as Spain or Greece really want to import the problem? 

[vanessan]

1 hour ago, JennyMorgan said:

Back to the harsh reality. It would seem to me that anyone contemplating a holiday abroad must by now be fully aware that there is a very real risk of being quarantined, either at destination or on return home. That hundreds of flights have already been cancelled speaks volumes. Health care professionals that I personally know are worried and there don't appear to be any predictions as to when this will burn itself out. I would guess that the foreign holiday industry is in for a severe kicking this year. Will such as Spain or Greece really want to import the problem? 

How many will holiday at home instead I wonder. Maybe think about a boating holiday...............  

[vanessan]

16 hours ago, Malanka said:

One of the simplest and hardest things to do is one which I learned as a lab based microbiologist almost 36 years ago. It’s simple and hard: DON’T TOUCH YOUR FACE. 
 

You would be amazed how frequently most people do this. All the mask wearing hand sanitizing and washing is not going to work if you keep touching your face. 
 

So follow the government advice, WHO advice.

and: 

DON’T TOUCH YOUR FACE. 
 

Martin 

When they keep telling us that bacteria enters our systems via mouth, nose, eyes etc, I can’t understand why this vital information is not included in the Government’s advice. It should be, along with washing your hands (and washing them properly).