Side On Mooring Only?

[ChrisB]

Come on folks! Lets be real. Boat going astern to squeeze between two others. People grabbing extra fenders, leaning out. Gust of wind, boat going astern gives one already moored a good bang. Paint flies off woody clouted, examination of damage, excited kids running down side decks.

If you cram Ramworth, stern on, folk will not stay 2m apart. 

I bet the press would just love a picture of boats canopies open with about eight in each cockpit, all of them on the "Pop". The BA would get crucified.

You may not like it but they have acted responsibly.

[floydraser]

Ah the risk factor. There is a risk of cancer if you smoke, risk of blood problems if you eat too much fat etc etc. and millions choose to ignore the advice. But with covid it's not just your own risk you are making choices over.

On a practical note about stern mooring, what if we agree to only move fore and aft on one side of the boat?

[jeffbroadslover]

Cannot see a problem with stern on mooring.

After all with the design and width of boats you would be further away from other people than some of the "KEY WORKERS" on "clap for something night". Photos in the press and on the TV and social media of these super elite people who should know better virtually holding hands with workmates really amaze me. 

They are obviously immune.

Jeff 

[marshman]

It has no impact on me whatsoever as I would never moor on the staithe, but people are just over-egging the dangers and of being outside -  and making up scenarios when and if such issues occur.And you are all assuming the staithe would even be full - without the hire industry that will not happen.

My comments relate to the state at Ranworth mooring now - side on morning is just absurd in the current circumsataces and if I could catch it off a post, then I would catch equally easily off a post used by a side on moorer.

I was merely saying, as I think Griff was, that the BA have responded just like they have with most things and indeed Mr Plod did initially, by imposing their authority on an issue which, at this stage did not really need it!

 

[marshman]

It has of course just occurred to me I cannot do this in my marina - am I to be banned again!

[ExSurveyor]

It is easier to say side on rather than going to the effort of marking a 2m gap,  that someone will try and squeeze into. A combination of lazy management and stupid people I fear. 

[marshman]

But for some reason, I seem to be allowed to do this in my home marina - I am sure many will come on here and say how stupid I am but I am just 12" from my next door neighbour? I just think that is what the BA have failed to do - think!!! If I can do it there in a private marina, whats the point of doing it at Ranworth?

Mixed messaging methinks yet again! Or is it just me????

 

[JennyMorgan]

5 minutes ago, marshman said:

Or is it just me????

Probably 

Ranworth, moored boats will probably have folks on-board, boats in marina, maybe not so likely. 

[Vaughan]

26 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said:

35 minutes ago, marshman said:

Or is it just me????

Probably 

Ranworth, moored boats will probably have folks on-board, boats in marina, maybe not so likely. 

I must say I tend to agree with Marshman on this one. I moor stern on in a boatyard basin among around 15 other boats, all of whose owners seem to be friends and although they are usually seen there at weekends they often don't leave the mooring at all - just socialise with each other in garden chairs on the lawn. And yet if I leave the mooring to have lunch at Ranworth I have to moor alongside in case I get too close to someone?

I can understand that the BA are keen to be seen to tick all the appropriate boxes but there is still the danger of thinking up rules in the process of over-reaction. After all, they are not the police.

What was that phrase that we so often used to use about official bodies, before the virus arrived?

Oh yes, that was it - "risk averse"!

[CambridgeCabby]

It is a typical example of officialdom implementing new rules and regulations to be seen IMHO “to be doing the right thing”, there is no reason why the use of the existing stern moorings at Ranworth cannot continue as per norm.

We are all aware of the social distancing necessities and even stern moored up side by side it is still easy to maintain the 6ft “barrier”.

if it is simply to cover their own a**es then I expect them to either remove or tape off any and all benches as they will not be cleaned between users , operate a “traffic light system” or close all their boardwalks as there is no way people can pass in opposite directions and maintain the 6ft distance, the list is endless.

The Answer ?

Educate people and armed with that knowledge allow them to enjoy the open spaces safely as opposed to more and more restrictions and rules .

[marshman]

And I thought it was just me and Vaughan!! I just see it as another opportunity for the BA to flex their muscles and assume "control" unnecessarily and this is me folks, not PW!!

[JawsOrca]

Geez this is typical example of dammed if they do and dammed if they didn't.  It's an unprecedented time no ones an expert, companies are going to overreact but at least they are reacting and at least the broads have reopened and we can all go outside.. I dread to see the comments when the pubs reopen!! 

[MauriceMynah]

25 minutes ago, marshman said:

And I thought it was just me and Vaughan!! I just see it as another opportunity for the BA to flex their muscles and assume "control" unnecessarily and this is me folks, not PW!!

Of course it's you Marshy, Peter will be along any second now to defend the BA and it's CEO to the hilt.

[Vaughan]

4 minutes ago, JawsOrca said:

I dread to see the comments when the pubs reopen!! 

In my heart of hearts, I think you may have to wait rather a long time for that since I fear that pub culture - and pubs themselves - are likely to be eliminated after this is over. Let us hope that will not be as the result of official (and public) over-reaction.

[Lulu]

Im just grateful we could go to the boat yesterday and check her over.

[Mirage]

7 hours ago, BroadAmbition said:

There's one good thing about this, there will be no double mooring even with permission, stopping at Yarmouth should be fun.

It will if it gets busy - yes

I quite enjoy double mooring, meeting folk etc.  Strangers are just friends I haven't met yet

Griff

Strangers are just friends I haven't met yet.

I think that's a really good and positive point Charlie. I hope others can see that too...

 

[OldBerkshireBoy]

That little saying is often found in friendly pubs. One of my favorites is Please Don`t Feed The Bar Staff.

[SwanR]

Can’t you all just be happy that you can get out on your boats for the day as owners as long as you can get to it? We’re not allowed back to our caravan yet and there’s not really much difference. 

Get out there and enjoy the rivers sensibly and safely in this lovely weather. I’m sure the B A are trying to do their best in unusual circumstances for which no one had a rule book. 

[JennyMorgan]

3 hours ago, marshman said:

 I just see it as another opportunity for the BA to flex their muscles and assume "control" unnecessarily

Authority for the sake of it, petty officialdom perhaps?

[marshman]

Jean - I am pleased to go back on the boat -  I have been banging on about that long enough! Ranworth has no bearing on my river trips, I have never moored there in 65 years!!! 

But petty bureaucracy is a pet hate of mine and its totally illogical to allow me to sit on a park bench and talk to someone 6' away, yet I cannot sit in the cockpit of my boat and decide whether I am far enough away to be social distancing! If you don't ever give responsibility for people to make their own sensible decisions on such trivia, such Authority will overtake your lives - there has been plenty of comment in the past about the BA being over officious on many issues and now they are again, no one notices or comments!!!

Petty officialdom Pete,  is correct. As they keep telling us, base any decisions on science not your perception of it. Oh well it is only my view - thank goodness they do not set the rules in the marinas as if they did, I would have to go home again!!!!

[JennyMorgan]

3 hours ago, Vaughan said:

In my heart of hearts, I think you may have to wait rather a long time for that since I fear that pub culture - and pubs themselves - are likely to be eliminated after this is over. Let us hope that will not be as the result of official (and public) over-reaction.

I had to go to Asda last night to collect some medication for my wife. The place was deserted so I had a wander around and spied some good looking, perfectly marbled stakes amazingly at under three quid each plus a very acceptable desert and a salad plus I did some good chips, plus a decent Red from Naked Wines. Two of us drank and eat very well for around £12.00 each, very acceptable and had we gone to a pub I suspect it would have cost us at least £30.00 each for a comparable meal. I suspect that pubs are going to have to fight very hard to win their public back. 

[JennyMorgan]

7 minutes ago, marshman said:

Petty officialdom Pete,  is correct. As they keep telling us, base any decisions on science not your perception of it. Oh well it is only my view - thank goodness they do not set the rules in the marinas as if they did, I would have to go home again!!!!

When my father was involved with the Countryside Commission in formulating the Broads Authority he and other consultees were critical of the use of the word Authority in the title, fearing that authority would eventually go to the head of the new body. Time has shown that their concerns were well founded., regretfully.

[Vaughan]

8 hours ago, JennyMorgan said:

When my father was involved with the Countryside Commission in formulating the Broads Authority he and other consultees were critical of the use of the word Authority in the title, fearing that authority would eventually go to the head of the new body. Time has shown that their concerns were well founded., regretfully.

My father was one of those consultees and he used to say the same thing.

[Vaughan]

On 17/05/2020 at 09:20, Vaughan said:

Perhaps towed dinghies will also come back into fashion, so we can get ashore from our anchored boat.

Susie and I have been talking about this and we reckon we should still be able to get into a dinghy and row it.

Trouble is, we don't think we would be able to get out of it again!   

[Cockatoo]

 

 

Is it just me or did anyone else see @Vaughan's

15 hours ago, Vaughan said:

In my heart of hearts, I think you may have to wait rather a long time for that

As a reply to this

15 hours ago, MauriceMynah said:

Of course it's you Marshy, Peter will be along any second now to defend the BA and it's CEO to the hilt.

Rather than this?

15 hours ago, JawsOrca said:

Geez this is typical example of dammed if they do and dammed if they didn't.  It's an unprecedented time no ones an expert, companies are going to overreact but at least they are reacting and at least the broads have reopened and we can all go outside.. I dread to see the comments when the pubs reopen!!