BroadAmbition Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 En route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Safely stern berthed at 2359. Tks for your advice Time for bed said Zebedee Griff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeCabby Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Left Gayes at 09:30 after a chat with Mr and Mrs Griff and meeting the new captain of Broad Ambition , Purdey . Just moored at Ludham to lower the mast to pass under the bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeCabby Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeCabby Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Moored up at Ranworth , next to an occupied taxi tank , staithe full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, CambridgeCabby said: Moored up at Ranworth , next to an occupied taxi tank , staithe full There appears to be one rafting on the far end, someone did that to us last summer and the BA ranger made them move (not at our request) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeCabby Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 They asked the hirers if they were ok with it and were informed it wasn’t a problem . The ranger has been pulling boats down all day , even those unattended , she attempted it with mine and I told her she did not have my permission to do so , if she wanted it moved she should ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, CambridgeCabby said: The ranger has been pulling boats down all day , even those unattended , Isn’t that breaking their own bye-laws? What do you mean by ‘pulling boats down’ - moving them down the side bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeCabby Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Creating spaces if she thinks she can shuffle them along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnysMon Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 No more boaty social distancing then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 hours ago, CambridgeCabby said: Creating spaces if she thinks she can shuffle them along What happens if no one’s on board and there’s a mudweight down? (Sorry for the questions, this action by the BA ranger just doesn’t seem right to me if she takes it upon herself to move unoccupied boats.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeCabby Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 As in what happened earlier today , if a boat is unattended and their mud weight is down , she makes a right pigs ear of it !!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lulu Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I spy a Cerise Lady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Jemaki said: There appears to be one rafting on the far end, someone did that to us last summer and the BA ranger made them move (not at our request) Did this happen last year or this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 50 minutes ago, Wussername said: Did this happen last year or this year? It does say last summer!...but what difference does it make?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, Jemaki said: It does say last summer!...but what difference does it make?.. It was a simple question, and you have answered. Thank you. As for the difference perhaps you can answer my next question. Is the BA full time employee at Ranworth a Ranger, a Quay Attendant or a member of the BA marketing team? There is a difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, Wussername said: As for the difference perhaps you can answer my next question. Is the BA full time employee at Ranworth a Ranger, a Quay Attendant or a member of the BA marketing team? There is a difference. I'm afraid I cannot answer that simple question as I neither know nor care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Jemaki said: I'm afraid I cannot answer that simple question as I neither know nor care. I am sorry I asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Wussername said: I am sorry I asked. Wussername asks a fair and most relevant question, based on a good knowledge of the Maltsters quay and its personnel. This is a bit of a "thorny" subject as it raises the issue of moving a boat on a mooring without the hirer's (or owner's) knowledge, presence, or permission. I have always understood it to be forbidden to touch someone's mooring lines or move their boat. There may well be a bye-law about it for those who know where to look. It is understandable that there is a wish to maximise the space available on this busy quay and the moving of moored boats is naturally being done with the best of intentions. What about insurance in the event of damage, though. Worse, what about physical injury as a result of such an action? In which case, is this person just a well meaning bystander assuming a "high vis jacket" authority for themselves, or is it a BA Ranger or quay attendant who is therefore acting under the auspices (and responsibility) of the BA itself. That is, if the the BA actually has such authority, in law. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 It would have been a great help, of course, if the mooring posts on Ranworth quay had been spaced out according to the normal width of a Broads motor cruiser! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 This is the bye-law I suppose which allows the Ranger to move any boat. Vaughan’s questions re insurance, injury etc seem very relevant though. *No person other than the Navigation Officer or an Officer of the Authority acting in the execution of his duty shall without reasonable excuse let go or attempt to let go or part the mooring line or lines of any vessel except with the permission of the master of the vessel.* 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Thank you for that. It remains to define "acting in the execution of his duty". There is a difference, in my view, between moving a vessel which is obstructing the navigation or may be itself in danger of damage (from a rising tide for instance), and simply shuffling boats about on an overnight mooring in order to get more people in the pub! I hope this does not mean they are now going to "make more space" on the moorings at Acle or Reedham, with a tide running, no-one on board and the engine stopped. One may think there is a difference, but it is the same principle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetAnne Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Could the BA argue that they deem themselves to have a blanket authority from the hire yards in a similar way to how they can close Breydon to hire boats? Of course, the owner of the vessel is not the master. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, JanetAnne said: Of course, the owner of the vessel is not the master. Another very relevant point. The hirer of a boat is the "charterer" in law and is responsible for its safe navigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 There is a well known pub on the north rivers, where I moored stern on one morning, only to find that my boat had been moved two spaces up the quay, for no apparent reason, while I was having lunch. The quay attendant was apparently a well known "character" who had become a bit of a law unto himself, so I didn't say anything about it. On the other hand, the pub lost my business as I have never moored there again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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