Price of diesel

[Jupes]

Now that would be a good idea, you could probably even specify FAME free class 2 red and know exactly what you get into the bargain.

Absolutely

[Hockham Admiral]

Or indeed it's legality.

Couldn't you argue that it's to enhance the upper cylinder lubrication, David?

[Antares_9]

Couldn't you argue that it's to enhance the upper cylinder lubrication, David?

I guess you could if it were used in a ratio that would be supportable as a UCL by usual custom and practice, but at a maximum of about half a litre per tank it would hardly be worth the effort John.

[Guest]

you can actually run vegetable oil almost neat

but i'm not sure it's recommended in common rail engines.

just add a little white spirit etc

Diesels were designed to run on rape seed oil

until the petro companies got in on the act.

veg oil does wax in cold weather but a heater sorts that out

you can get them on ebay

and for legality reasons .... .you can also pay the duty

separately and still be quids in.

from this website

'Anybody can make biodiesel. It's easy, you can make it in your kitchen -- and it's better fuel than the petro-diesel the oil companies sell you.

Your diesel motor will run better and last longer on your home-made fuel, and it's much cleaner -- better for the environment and better for health'

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html

Rich

[Antares_9]

running on pure bio diesel was tried as an experiment by a hire fleet a couple of years ago and came to nothing, bio does not stand up to being stored for the periods that most boats keep it in their tank, is more likely to get bug and attracts suspended water, fine for road going vehicles but not leisure marine. Volvo Penta and all other manufacturers prohibit above 7% or any warranty is void.

[MY littleboat]

running on pure bio diesel was tried as an experiment by a hire fleet a couple of years ago and came to nothing, bio does not stand up to being stored for the periods that most boats keep it in their tank, is more likely to get bug and attracts suspended water, fine for road going vehicles but not leisure marine. Volvo Penta and all other manufacturers prohibit above 7% or any warranty is void.

And the UK is aiming for a 20% biodiesel blend by 2017!?

[Antares_9]

DERV already has up to (useful phrase that "up to" as it clearly includes zero) 7% but DOT have allowed an exception for red, it is allowed to be FAME free and a number of marinas take the trouble to give their customers that already, even Shotley who could ligitematley still sell the old high sulphur red stuff (unlike any inland supplier) now sell Class 2 FAME free ultra low sulphur red.

I have to say there seems a lot less smoke about of a morning