White Emblem Bourne 35

[Tomfairweather]

Hello all and thank you for adding me. 
I have just bought an Ernest Collins Bourne 35 with my Dad and will be restoring it over the next period of time. I think it was built in 1968 and sold to a private buyer in 1985-1987. After that it was deregistered in 1991. 
The boats of the Norfolk Broads website sadly has no information about her or the White Emblem boats. 
Could anyone offer any suggestions as to how I could find out some information or photos?

many thanks in advance. 

[Spray]

If you go into the database again and type Bourne in the bottom box , the various models come up and I can see the  White Emblem boats on there .

[NeilB]

There's one sat in Horning that seems to be gradually fading away, shame as I think they are fantastic boats.

Hope you can post some photos and few updates as the restoration progresses. 

[Vaughan]

 

This is from Blakes catalogue of 1968 and as there is a photo, the boat would have already been on hire before then.  As there are 4 advertised in the class, they probably started building around 1966.

I remember them as lovely boats, among the best built on the Broads, in those days.

[Roy]

Welcome to the forum 

please keep us updated on the restoration progress

[Graham47]

We hired White Emblem 4. Registration No D137 from Ernest Collins Wroxham from 1970 to 1975 for  4 weeks per year. 2 weeks in April and 2 weeks in September.There were 4 White Emblems in the fleet. Beautiful boat in those days. Ernest Collins built their own boats and had their yard opposite to where Brinkcraft are now. They were eventually taken over by Jack Powels. The last boat they built was Astral Emblem 1.

[Tomfairweather]

It was White Emblem 4 apparently. Now called Rafferty but had the registration D135…..

[Graham47]

Sorry, you are correct the registration number was D135 not D137. If you look at the picture Vaughan has posted above you will see the name is on the superstructure on the varnish to the left of the cockpit door. This was so for No’s 1,2 and 3 but on number 4 it was in the same place but but within a white panel.

 

 

 

 

[Tomfairweather]

3 minutes ago, Graham47 said:

Sorry, you are correct the registration number was D135 not D137. If you look at the picture Vaughan has posted above you will see the name is on the superstructure on the varnish to the left of the cockpit door. This was so for No’s 1,2 and 3 but on number 4 it was in the same place but but within a white panel.

 

 

 

 

That’s great Graham. Thank you. Do you have any photos? I want to get it back as original as possible if I can. 

[Tomfairweather]

7 hours ago, Vaughan said:

 

This is from Blakes catalogue of 1968 and as there is a photo, the boat would have already been on hire before then.  As there are 4 advertised in the class, they probably started building around 1966.

I remember them as lovely boats, among the best built on the Broads, in those days.

Thank you for this. The photo shows white emblem 3 so I guess it could be around that time 1968. The internal layout is the same so promising. I’m super pumped about getting it back up and running!

[Puddleduck2]

I sold mine last year after 22 years of ownership. It had been in private hands from new. I think I still have some old paperwork and photos. pm me if interested

[Tomfairweather]

She’s landed!

[Broads01]

Landed where and where from?

[garryn]

14 minutes ago, Broads01 said:

Landed where and where from?

That's looks like Eastwood Whelpton at Upton.

[Tomfairweather]

It’s come from Weston Super Mare to Upton. The intention is to bring it back to its former glory. 

[Vaughan]

I see the most difficult part of the rubbing strake - around the stem - is missing, and will need a template made in order to laminate a new one.  As it is a Bourne hull, it is worth asking around the boatyards to see if anyone still has one, that you can borrow.

[grendel]

thats the part Robin made up for Broad Ambition recently, I wonder if the same former would work (if he still has it.)

[Tomfairweather]

1 hour ago, Vaughan said:

I see the most difficult part of the rubbing strake - around the stem - is missing, and will need a template made in order to laminate a new one.  As it is a Bourne hull, it is worth asking around the boatyards to see if anyone still has one, that you can borrow.

It’s all good. I’m a boatbuilder here at Upton. It won’t be too difficult to make one up. It all needs replacing anyway. The last owner used skirting board by the look of it! 😂

[AndyTBoater]

3 hours ago, grendel said:

thats the part Robin made up for Broad Ambition recently, I wonder if the same former would work (if he still has it.)

He did one for mine as well. The former is probably still there somewhere. 

[Tomfairweather]

1 hour ago, AndyTBoater said:

He did one for mine as well. The former is probably still there somewhere. 

That would be useful. Where is he?

[JanetAnne]

6 hours ago, Tomfairweather said:

That would be useful. Where is he?

'he' is Robin, a forum member and almost daily visitor. I am sure he will see this and let you know if the former was kept. 

[AndyTBoater]

7 hours ago, Tomfairweather said:

That would be useful. Where is he?

Based in Lowestoft/ oulton broad but as JA says. I am sure he will be along shortly. 

[Robin]

Hi Tom

Unfortunately the former i made for Andy's  Bourne 35  bow section  has been  binned,  i have repaired many a  Bourne bow section over the years and they all differ slightly,

A heads up regarding the keel on a Bourne 35!

The keel its self is only constructed from the same thickness fiberglass as the hull, and is very prone to splitting on the  bottom corners if not supported evenly along its length.

Over the years i have had the pleasure of repairing at least six keels on Bourne's  because of damage caused by uneven  supporting blocks.

I look forward to seeing pictures of your progress.

Robin

[Vaughan]

2 hours ago, Robin said:

The keel its self is only constructed from the same thickness fiberglass as the hull, and is very prone to splitting on the  bottom corners if not supported evenly along its length.

Same goes for an Alphacraft, and more so!  Spread the load on the keel as much as possible. It's got nothing inside it!

[Tomfairweather]

4 hours ago, Robin said:

Hi Tom

Unfortunately the former i made for Andy's  Bourne 35  bow section  has been  binned,  i have repaired many a  Bourne bow section over the years and they all differ slightly,

A heads up regarding the keel on a Bourne 35!

The keel its self is only constructed from the same thickness fiberglass as the hull, and is very prone to splitting on the  bottom corners if not supported evenly along its length.

Over the years i have had the pleasure of repairing at least six keels on Bourne's  because of damage caused by uneven  supporting blocks.

I look forward to seeing pictures of your progress.

Robin

Thanks Robin for the heads up. I’ll make sure it’s supported properly in the morning. I must say it look pled in very good order once I pumped about a tonne of water out of the bilge.