donnygeoff Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Hi all, I have had a quick search, but can not find the info I am looking for.. I know all bridge heights on the maps are shown for high water (so the Yarmouth ones say 7ft) What I would like to know, is there anywhere I can find the max/min clearance of the bridges. For example clearance at high water 7ft/ low water 9ft. I know this will not be and exact measurement, because it depends on other factors such as wind. pressure. springs/neaps etc. but it would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 any good http://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/boating/navigating/bridge-heights.html Jonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnygeoff Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 Thanks Jonny, But that is what I have found The clearance measurements for bridges given are at Average High Water during the summer. There will be greater clearance near Low Water, especially at Great Yarmouth and in the southern rivers. Barometric pressure, rainfall and wind conditions all affect river levels so great caution should always be exercised and the bridge gauge board carefully noted. Only high water clearance, not low water..... I need to know wether or not to lower the forum flag on the way through Yarmouth Don't say a word Martin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senator Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 You are looking for the holy grail I'm afraid for exactly the reasons you have already quoted. Yarmouth bridges are between 6'6" and 13' with the predicted tidal height only having a partial effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Hi all, I have had a quick search, but can not find the info I am looking for.. is there anywhere I can find the max/min clearance of the bridges. I've never been able to find a published list of LW clearances, either on the web or even on paper, and I've kept any eye open for it for many years. It's a much more risky figure to declare, since a lot could ride on it's accuracy, (even decisions on what boat to buy etc.). The nearest I've ever found, is the tide "Average Summer Springs Range" figures that used to be published in Hamilton's, before it's demise. When applied to the HW clearances, they give a rough idea, and the only method I've ever found available. Acle Bridge - 0.5m Beccles - 0.6m Burgh Castle - 1.2m Brundall - 0.3m Horning - 0.2m Loddon - 0.76m Norwich - 0.6m Oulton Broad - 0.8m Potter Heigham - 0.4m Reedham - 0.9m St Olaves - 0.9m I don't know how accurate all of those measurements are, but seriously doubt the Potter one, I've never seen a tidal height variation of 400mm ( 16 " ) there, and unfortunately, Yarmouth wasn't even on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 This is what I use and keep it in a folder on the boat so I know how much slack to leave on the mooring ropes. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I was going to say that most of those figures seem to have been gleaned from Hamilton's as well, and that the Norwich and Brundall figures are definitely well out, showing just 0.3m for each. Then I looked again at the figures from Hamilton's that I put on this thread, and they show 0.6m for Norwich (which is more like it), but only 0.3m for Brundall, which is impossible !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnygeoff Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 Thanks Guys, That was perfect info for me. Just what I needed to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senator Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Norwich will give more like twice that on a Spring tide, are the figures for Mean Neaps tide heights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I can't for the life of me remember where I got my figures from but I do remember them as being 'Average' rise and fall. When I can find the source again I will post it on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY littleboat Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 The best thing to do is to look at the tidal difference between any given day and add that to the mean clearance level published. It won't be exact but will give you a very good idea what bridges you need to get under. However beware at low water springs there is no guarantee you won't be digging a trench under your hull or picking up a rogue shopping trolley. Especially around Yarmouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockham Admiral Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Figures quoted above aren't like any I've come across down South! If you really need to know ring the Ranger/Marina/GH Harbour Control and they'll give you a much more accurate idea. If not follow common sense and use springs, then you needn't bother if it's 0.2m or 2m... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 hi, have used this method before and it works at Yarmouth,for height at low water, get the comparative low water height at Gorslton.....from here(the little pointer) http://www.norfolk-broads.org/index.htm Take this figure off the greatest clearance of the bridge....can,t find it but it,s 13ft 2(4metres) so tommorow you will have.....4 metres minus 1.05m equals 3metres(don,t be anal!!) equals...9 feet 10 7â„64 inches we have used this method to get high boats under @11ft ,on springs you normally get a bit more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY littleboat Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 So Trev, do you carry the 2 and borrow the '1'? I'm confused?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 OMG!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnygeoff Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 If not follow common sense and use springs Hi Mr Admiral, I'ts not for mooring that I was looking for the info, but passage under bridges. With the info I have now I can make an educated guess as to wether or not to travel to places that I need to go under bridges for, just to find that I have arrived at the wrong time and have to wait or turn back. As I am down when the Yarmouth passage is just after sunrise and just before sunset (hires can only travel between these times) I am working out how much later I can be so to make it under. Wouldn't want to keep one of Clives boats for another few days while I wait for the right clearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodall_m1 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Hi Mr Admiral, I'ts not for mooring that I was looking for the info, but passage under bridges. Geoff I think John meant use Spring Tides not spring ropes... That is great for the retired Admiral out on his boat most of the time, he can plan his trip around the tide times. Those of us going during the Easter holidays and trying to make the maximum use of Bank Holidays are a bit more restricted. This Easter is a real horror, Neap Tides and low water very early (just after Sunrise) and late (just before Sunset) in the pre-Easter week. It will be Springs just after Easter though , like just after we go home.... Don't do what I did on Hurricane last year and forget to take the forum flag down at the end of the trip. (I had to ring Alphacraft and get them to post it back to me!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I can't for the life of me remember where I got my figures from but I do remember them as being 'Average' rise and fall. When I can find the source again I will post it on here. Found it... on the boat! Not sure when this was printed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Bill, As you spend soooo much time onboard you could moor up at each bridge and record the high and low clearances. This could then be repeated for the four seasons and also for Springs and Neaps. I am sure we would all be interested in your findings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Matt.......... Only 17 days afloat so far this year...... Just had 6 days with lovely weather too. Jealous yet? Oh, nearly forgot. Under the bridge.....Easy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I would jealous but I am too busy packing for 7 days starting Saturday! And the weather looks promising for April! Great news on the bridge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DAYTONA-BILL Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 This thread is all very interresting, but we`re going to be on Swallow, a fwd dv boat and staying south, so bridge height is not really going to be a bother. 5 1/2 weeks, i can`t wait . . Just hope the weather`s going to be a damn sight better than it was last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnygeoff Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share Posted March 28, 2012 Now that looks like a handy bit of kit Buffalobill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Hi Geoff knew it was somewhere this should be what your after http://www.thegreenbook.org.uk/ follow these instructions 1. click link about 2. once the page has loaded on left hand side click 2nd link THE GREEN BOOK 3. once loaded in the list navigation of the broads 10th link down bridge dimensions & type click it Jonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnygeoff Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 Jonny, Very informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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