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  1. 4 minutes ago, Hylander said:

    I for some reason cannot open your link.    As this boat was wild moored I would think, because if at the Church mooring they could have got off the boat,  may be it was a tree root that caused the damage.

    It's not a link. It's a saved web page.

     

  2. There is no "standard size" for tanks on any boat. 

    Tanks are made to fit spaces and the weight needs to be balanced across the vessel to avoid severe listing to one side. Some boats may have a central tank, some will have diesel and water tanks of very similar capacities which will be mounted on opposite sides of the beam, some will have a water tank on each side which are connected to balance them. 

    Obviously, if the boat is intended to berth a lot of people it would be expected to will carry a larger amount of water than a smaller one. Lady of Freedom had two large tanks under the rear decks. Way larger than the boat needed, but the weight was used for ballast to keep the stern end down. 

     

    1 minute ago, Meantime said:

    Which begs the question, what is the average? 

    My boat still has the tank fitted by the hire yard that fitted it out.

    There is no "average". Sweet Freedom has a tank of about 38 gallons for 2 people, whilst Lady of Freedom, a boat initially designed to carry 4 people had about 100 gallon tanks and Fair Freedom for 10 people carried (at a guess) maybe 150 gallons across the beam in two tanks. 

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  3. 5 minutes ago, Vaughan said:

    Oh, what a joy to behold, under Wroxham bridge!

    Why is this sort of thing allowed, in such a totally unsuitable site?  Surely, this is what places such as Bewilderwood are for?

    There are strict rules on where these vessels can navigate and, basically, it's nowhere near the bridge. They are told to go upstream and into Bridge Broad. There was lots of consulting with the BA rangers department before this opened for business. 

     

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  4. The problem is that the BA uses it's planning department inappropriately. Rather than being a "fit for purpose" planning outfit, it's a weapon to be deployed in acts of retribution, retaliation, ethnic cleansing, whatever it thinks it can get away with and will pick fights that it knows it can't win safe in the knowledge that the opponent is likely to expend buckets of cash whereas the BA is largely carefree about it's own cash because it's public money. 

     

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  5. The BA top management have a long-standing history of being remarkably vindictive and grudge holding. Its planning system is broken and has been  for many years and the organisation is barely fit for purpose. It squanders public money like it's meaningless (because it is to them). 

    This issue at Haddiscoe is as clear an example as you can get that there's a cancer at the top. It's been going on for a long time and the incompetence of the BA to issue a redacted email that could be unredacted (I know a little more about this than most) shows the lengths of untruths it will concoct to get its own way. 

    This whole affair, as I understand it, is a result of failed negotiations over the lease of the land (which has had mooring upon it for a very long time as I am sure Vaughan can attest). It's vindictive in its motivation as it simply cannot be anything else.  

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  6. 2 hours ago, Hylander said:

    When I went to shopping this morning I saw no queues whatsoever, just normal folk behaving normally.    May be just may be normality has returned to some of us.  The roads were very quiet.

    Well, the A149 through Repps has about a 1/2 mile queue trying to get into the filling station now. 

  7. 16 hours ago, Patchett said:

    In case anyone is interested in some photos of Martham Ferry Boatyard and the different boats in the 1960-80s, I have uploaded some here on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/194041782@N06/albums

    The quality is not great since they are scans and some of these photos are almost 60 years old, but at least it gives an impression and helps some of us recall fond memories.

    I will continue to add more info and photos as and when I discover them.

    What a brilliant resource you are sharing there. Thank you. 

    I remember those sheds as a child. I remember walking over the "bridges" between them and I remember looking at them in a much more dilapidated state about 16 years ago with a possible view to buying the site. 

    I live up the top of the road and regularly walk down this way. Looks very different today. 

     

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  8. This is going around Social; Media. It's worth reading. 

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    Jim Titheridge

    17 Sept 

    So, you are running out of food on the shelves, fuel in the garages, you can’t buy things you need, because the shops can’t get their supplies.

    Why is that?

    A shortage of goods? No

    A shortage of money? No

    A shortage of drivers to deliver the goods? Well, sort of.

    There isn’t actually a shortage of drivers, what we have, is a shortage of people who can drive, that are willing to drive any more. You might wonder why that is. I can’t answer for all drivers, but I can give you the reason I no longer drive. Driving was something I always yearned to do as a young boy, and as soon as I could, I managed to get my driving licence, I even joined the army to get my HGV licence faster, I held my licence at the age of 17. It was all I ever wanted to do, drive trucks, I had that vision of being a knight of the roads, bringing the goods to everyone, providing a service everyone needed. What I didn’t take into account was the absolute abuse my profession would get over the years.

    I have seen a massive decline in the respect this trade has, first, it was the erosion of truck parking and transport café’s, then it was the massive increase in restricting where I could stop, timed weight limits in just about every city and town, but not all the time, you can get there to do your delivery, but you can’t stay there, nobody wants an empty truck, nobody wants you there once they have what they did want.

    Compare France to the UK. I can park in nearly every town or village, they have marked truck parking bays, and somewhere nearby, will be a small routier, where I can get a meal and a shower, the locals respect me, and have no problems with me or my truck being there for the night.

    Go out onto the motorway services, and I can park for no cost, go into the service area, and get a shower for a minimal cost, and have freshly cooked food, I even get to jump the queues, because others know that my time is limited, and respect I am there because it is my job. Add to that, I even get a 20% discount of all I purchase. Compare that to the UK £25-£40 just to park overnight, dirty showers, and expensive, dried (under heat lamps) food that is overpriced, and I have no choice but to park there, because you don’t want me in your towns and cities.

    Ask yourself how you would feel, if doing your job actually cost you money at the end of the day, just so you could rest.

    But that isn’t the half of it. Not only have we been rejected from our towns and cities, but we have also suffered massive pay cuts, because of the influx of foreign drivers willing to work for a wage that is high where they come from, companies eagerly recruited from the eastern bloc, who can blame them, why pay good money when you can get cheap labour, and a never ending supply of it as well. Never mind that their own countries would suffer from a shortage themselves, that was never our problem, they could always get people from further afield if they needed drivers.

    We were once seen as knights of the road, now we are seen as the lepers of society. Why would anyone want to go back to that?

    If you are worried about not getting supplies on your supermarket shelves, ask your local council just how well they cater for trucks in your district.

    I know Canterbury has the grand total of zero truck parking facilities, but does have a lot of restrictions, making it difficult for trucks to stop anywhere.

    Do you want me to go back to driving trucks? Give me a good reason to do so. Give anyone a good reason to take it up as a profession.

    Perhaps once you work out why you can’t, you will understand why your shelves are not as full as they could be.

    I tried it for over 30 years, but will never go back, you just couldn't pay me enough.

    Thank you to all those people who have shared this post. I never expected such a massive response, but am glad that this message is getting out there. I really hope that some people who are in a position to change just how bad it is for some drivers, can influence the powers that be to make changes for the better. Perhaps some city and town councillors have seen this, and are willing to bring up these issues at their council meetings. It surely cannot be too much to ask of a town/city to provide facilities for those who are doing so much to make sure their economies run and their shops and businesses are stocked with supplies. I never wanted any luxuries, just somewhere safe to park, and some basic ablutions that are maintained to a reasonable standard. I spent my nights away from my home and family for you, how much is it to ask that you at least give me access to some basic services.

    There are tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of licence holders just like me, who will no longer tolerate the conditions. So the ball is firmly in the court of the councils to solve this problem.

     

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  9. 7 hours ago, andyg said:

    Andy it's the media responsibility to report facts and not incite panic. There wasn't a fuel supply issue until the media got hold of what was basically a non story regarding a very small number of bp outlets. We have great big 50inch TV screens in our transport office showing both bbc and sky news and we stood amazed as the news reporting just got more and more laughable as the day went on. We worked all through the pandemic our depot is one of the largest in the UK, not once during the first lockdown did any media organisation ask to come film in our warehouse to help reassure the public there were no shortages of food etc. In fact it was the total opposite, we were bursting at the seems. But plenty of TV crews outside our stores filming the chaos. Its was the same story at all our distribution facility's and stores. Why our news channels feel the need to copy our cousins across the pond and use  sensationalism and hear say as news is beyond me. 

    AH, I see the problem here. I think you have the wrong understanding of the media. Well, most of it anyway. The media's role is to get you to read more, watch more, buy more. This is especially true of media that's in the hands of profit making organisations (and here I use the word "profit" to include propaganda). 

    If the SUN can push the price of petrol up so that the scumbag petroleum companies increase profits and thus run more adverts and pay News Corp more money, that's their role. Don't ever fall into the trap of thinking that a newspaper or other media outlet is delivering news. It's delivering profit first and foremost and is very clever at disguising it as fact. 

    Another big problem is that people see headlines and don't read the story. Most of us will be guilty of this. The headline's purpose is to attract you to a story and the story may be rather less sensational than the headline. 

     

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  10. 17 hours ago, Chelsea14Ian said:

    It was the same in the beginning. The media reported the odd supermarket here and there that had ran out of loo rolls.Resulting in panic buying.Of couse report  on problem but stop going over the top.

    Do you not think that a supermarket with a perfectly good logistics department is capable of not running out of bog paper? It was panic buying that lead to the loo roll shelves being empty in the first place. That fad started down under and got reported. 

    There's a lot of blame going to the media for essentially "doing its job". If you write a book and put a cover on it that should be wiped with loo roll, you won't sell the book. If you write an article with a bad headline or a bad intro, nobody will read it. If you make a TV serial with a bad title, awful intro and poor story, nobody will watch it. 

    The entire purpose of a headline is to grab someone's attention and get them to read on or listen on. You simply cannot blame the media for doing its job here.  That's the lazy response. The cause of our current problems are The Pandemic, The Government response, Brexit and very specifically, the idiot public, many of whom I wouldn't trust to hold a door open. 

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  11. There's a lot of blame going to the media for this. I say that's rubbish. I haven't seen a media report about fuel shortages. I have seen media reports that a handfull of BP stations are closed. Nobody has forced the proliferation of selfish aholes to block roads and running forecourts dry. I've abandoned a photography trip to Suffolk this weekend because I can't be guaranteed to get fuel for the mohome and further abandoned even a drive to Winterton because I need to be able to get my children to Norwich College each day next week and I am unsure of fuel availability to do that. 

    That's a minor inconvenience. 

    A major inconvenience is that (stupidly) the emergency services don't have their own supplies. Ambulances et al are struggling to find fuel whilst Eric Von ****** in the 1/4 mile queue for fuel has a coronary with the stress of not being able to put 10 litres of fuel in his take to get it to the full marker again.  

    This must soon have a knock on effect for the HGV crisis that started this vicious circle; how long before road freight can't move because Karen from number 10 has filled her bath with Derv on the advice from "lood after yrself barry" from facebook?

     

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  12. I was going to start using a different deck paint product last year. I don't recall the name of it now, but it was similar to this: https://www.foxschandlery.com/kiwigrip-non-skid-paint-deck-system?ps=MjIzPTg5NDgmMjIyPTg3Nw==#223=8948&222=877

    The reason I didn't was a discussion with the UK distributor who had been having some supply problems and told me that the shelf life of the product was pretty limited, so if I was to buy a few tins, they would need to be used within a certain time and if not would be spoiled. For me, that was a certain money loss as I could not, at the time, afford to get multiple decks prepped and sorted quickly. However, it might be an idea for your deck project. 

    I am not sure that George at Ludham Bridge Boatyard isn't using something similar. 

     

     

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  13. 12 hours ago, OldBerkshireBoy said:

    He is an experianced boat painter so wouldnt use Nitromors nor would he simply flatten old paint and apply new paint but whatever this top layer is it aint playing ball with his normal paint remover and scraper plus the clock is ticking so any ideas are much appreciated guys n gals.

    I didn't say I wouldn't flatten old paint and recoat. 

    You have to be careful. You need to know what type of paint you have on the boat already before applying a new paint. 

    2 pack paints have an exothermic curing process. This means that they use a chemical reaction to generate heat. The result is a better bond to a properly prepared substrate and a longer life with greater scratch resistance. The problem is that the heat generated in the curing process can act like a hot-air paint stripper to an underlying single-pack paint. So, if you don't know what the existing paint is, applying two pack is a gamble unless you remove all the paint. 

    Single pack paint can be applied to any surface but isn't as tough. Deck paint will need renewing regularly, especially if you don't make a good job of the prep and this is VERY hard on GRP decks with the anti-slip moulding in the gel as it's virtually impossible to get the paint out of the valleys without a sharp pick and a month of sundays at your disposal. A very high power pressure steam cleaner is often capable but few people have such an expensive machine (a good boat yard will have one though), but these can strip paint you want to leave in place too. 

    Nothing that's worth-while is easy. 

     

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  14. 1 hour ago, C.Ricko said:

    we at Horning pleasurecraft are £1.20 for Diesel so not the cheapest in horning but pump access is easy..

    we can service virtually anything so depending on what you have  will determine the price. 

    Give George  a ring on 01692 630614. 

     

    I can't imagine what you mean about pump access....... :default_eusa_dance:

  15. There is a GRP safe paint remover that I can't remember the name of. That's because I found it simply didn't work. I will have it in one of my units somewhere. I could probably lay my hands on it if you wanted to try it. 

    I have painted a lot of boats and there is no substitute that I have found for abrasives. 

    Sorry, I know that's not the news you wanted. 

    DO NOT USE NITROMORS. 

      

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  16. On 20/09/2021 at 13:58, annv said:

    Hi Vaughan Perhaps if you had contacted Kubota direct who's factory is at Thame Oxfordshire they would be cheaper,  Nanni would have just been the middle man adding there commission to the factory price as no doubt Beta and Peachmounts would do for Kubota engine parts unless it was a non engine  part that they have manufactured to complete the marinizing build. John

    I bought hardly any Nanni parts due to the cost. I had contacts at various Kubota dealers who could provide all engine parts at a fraction of the Nanni cost. 

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  17. 1 hour ago, annv said:

    Hi Jackson I suggest you only use F.A.M.E free diesel or the new Gas diesel you then wont get diesel bug and if your engine old a deterioration of the rubber seals and hoses. John

    That is a very simplistic take. Diesel bug thrives on the interface between the diesel fuel and the water layer. Whether or not you use FAME free diesel, there is likley to be water in your tank. It gets in off the deck filler and condensation and whilst it's true that the ethanol component of most diesel fuels on the river will also contribute to the problem, searching for and finding FAME free diesel will not prevent the problem. And, that's without considering the cleanliness of the yard's tank that's serving you the fuel or the tanker that delivered it to the yard. 

    I am convinced that a tanker delivered 50-70 litres of water to one of my heating oil tanks last year as there's no way that the **&T that I pulled out of it that fouled a boiler had just been building up over time. I pumped gallons out of that tank, from the bottom using a purpose made pickup tube that, if present prior to the delivery, would have fouled the boiler pump yonks ago. My point being that the supply chain can be as much of a problem as your tank. 

     

     

  18. If this is in relation to the Natural Gas price rises, there should be no knock-on as Bottled Gas is a by-product of the petroleum industry: LPG Liquified Petroleum Gas. 

    Incidentally, did you know that the odour is added to this otherwise odourless gas so that you can detect escapes? Did you also know that, unlike natural gas, it's heavier than air, hence incredibly dangerous in a boat because escaped gas just drops to the floor and bilges...... 

     

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  19. 31 minutes ago, Andrewcook said:

    Hi I just like to say this if they can do Hybrid Petrol and Electric together so why can they make this with Diesel? As this would make things easier then having to find a plug in Charger for all Electric as only hook ups are now only being used  on Midrange and newer Boats now to save Battery's being Murdered while moored up at night time.

    There have been hybrid diesels for about 8 years now from Nanni........ 

     

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