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20 minutes ago, Mouldy said:
Here we go again! I have no doubt that some people will pay to moor there. It’s certainly one of my favourite spots on the southern rivers, but my point remains that I can’t help wondering whether the Blessed Authority will use this as a guide to the boating public’s willingness to pay mooring fees at other locations to the ones that are already chargeable.
I’m guessing that payment to moor will be made in advance, so I trust that the moorings will be monitored to ensure that other boats and anglers do not occupy too much space and prevent use by those who have paid.
I appreciate what your saying , but come on ,people have to get real . You would pay more to put a tent up in a farmers field for a night ….and yes with no facilities .
and as for BA ….we will leave it there .
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18 minutes ago, YnysMon said:
It is if you only want to stay for one night. Yes, Langley Dyke is nice and peaceful, but there aren’t any facilities nearby other than rubbish bins. Seems a bit steep to me.
A bit steep ? Really , how much do you pay to park your car for a couple of hours ……these moorings could have easily been lost to permanent private moorings but the landlord is trying to make them still available to the many …….speechless …….
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9 minutes ago, Mouldy said:
I may be being cynical, but I can’t help thinking that the Blessed Authority will be watching the popularity of these moorings with interest. If folk don’t mind stumping up £10 a night here, how long will it be before charges are imposed at BA ones, other than where they already exist?
It’s not £10 per night .
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19 minutes ago, grendel said:
but thats what the problem was, they didnt want to spend a huge amount on piling and quay headings for what was quoted as a short 5 year lease, the land owner would then get an asset in the form of quay heading worth 80 times the £2000 he was asking, and that would hardly be a good use of the authorities budget, and then the toll payers would complain,
Oops sorry, they will complain either way if the money is wasted or if it is saved and we lose moorings.
I can understand the authorities stance that they will only take over the quay headings on a 20 year lease and not on a 5 year one as the lifespan of the quay heading is in the same realms as the lease length.
the budget comes from somewhere- and part of that is the tolls.
where does it go, well this year it went refurbishing the quay headings at neatishead, and ludham bridge as well as repairs at other places around the network, I am sure if you asked them where it had gone they would be able to provide detailed accounts showing just where every penny went.
No ,you have the wrong end of the stick, the present moorings which are sound,we’re offered at the £2000 pound per annum on a rolling contract,
The large spend would have been at the other end of the Dyke that was originally offered and would have be available for as long as they wanted !
and No they cannot or will not tell you where the unspent budget goes ,you are surmising they can tell you where all of the budget each year has been spent , this is not the case , do your own research and stop regurgitating what others have incorrectly stated , no offence.-
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47 minutes ago, grendel said:
and the costs to maintain the moorings / repiling, etc, would they be maintained by the land owner for that £2000? or would they be the authorities responsibility, in which case the £2000 is irrelevant compared to the other expenses.
That’s what the budget is for …….try checking on what happens to the existing budget if not used in the financial year ……because it doesn’t roll over …….so where does it go ?
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1 hour ago, grendel said:
how much extra are we willing to pay for our broads tolls to pay for extra moorings, is it just a case of the authority trying to be wise with a dwindling cash reserve, or something else, seriously we complain every year at the toll increases being above inflation, just ask yourself how much extra do we want to pay to give the authority the resources to pay for moorings (and their upkeep), at what point does it become financially non viable to keep doing so, I fear what we are seeing is this cutting edge of financial viability coming into effect.
I keep banging on about this but BA WOULD NOT PAY £2000 for Langley Dyke 24 hour moorings !
There doesn’t need to be a rise ….I just about paid that in my Toll fees alone ……
your just not getting it it’s BA’s way or the Highway …..they cannot and will not negotiate .
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43 minutes ago, Bytheriver said:
Those toll payers & hirers may like to contemplate how many additional moorings are required & how much increase it toll would be tolerated to achieve this & we must bear in mind the principle that once higher lease payments are offered others could well want some more at next negotiations time?
Remember we were talking £2000 here ..? Average boat x 5 annual toll fee …….Ludicrous !
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14 minutes ago, vanessan said:
Sorry but you’re wrong. I was actually there when a ‘private’ notice was put up on the upstream section of moorings. I was advised that a sign would follow on the downstream section. Maybe you missed those?
Yes you are correct a small sign no bigger than a foot with the word PRIVATE in red on it ...hmmm
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2 minutes ago, vanessan said:
Trouble is, the next notice says the same so further gets further still!
As I said above ,,,,,,, They are the ONLY signs that have been put up ....
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1 minute ago, vanessan said:
They’ve been updated then. That wording does seem to give a bit of hope………🤞
They are the ONLY signs that have been put up ....
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8 hours ago, MauriceMynah said:
How far away is the further notice?
The further notice is a period when if every one that doesnt want these moorings lost are able to petition BA to NEGOTIATE ....something they obviusley dont like doing ...but it obviously wont last forever SO PEOPLE NEED TO GET WRITING TO BA instead of just chewing the cud about how we have lost more moorings ........ we the toll payers never lose moorings BA just throw them away ....
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2 hours ago, vanessan said:
Both sets of moorings have ‘private’ signs now I believe and apparently there is also a ‘bouncer’ for want of a better expression.
The signs actually read , "No mooring until further notice "
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29 minutes ago, Roy said:
Floating pontoons are the answer BA needs to think about adding new mooring with pontoons if they are away from the bank say 3ft (if enough room not a problem down south) then there wouldn’t need to be any quay heading only where the ramp attaches to the bank I know they would need to pay a rent to the land owner if access is on the land.
dont really think your going to get pontoons with enough pace for 8 boats plus and pay a rent for less than 2k tbh... 2k wouldnt buy 1 x 30 ft pontoon let alone 8 ///// BA just need to get real ..... if they want to pay the same price now as they did 21 years ago why shouldnt we toll payers be paying the same toll cost as 21 years ago ...... as I said BA need to get real ,,,end of
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On 09/06/2023 at 20:15, Mouldy said:
Wrong! To pay for them to look for new replacement moorings, that will all turn out to be too expensive to lease and won’t happen!
and where the hell are BA going to find ready made moorings that they need do nothing to for less than 2K per annum.....ludicrous
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yes indeed but something has to give to cover the cost of the 4 x 4's that all BA workers appear to be driving around in , not a good use of funds and how does that sit with the BA's ECO policy I wonder .
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http://www.gmronline.co.uk/8.html
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So you have observed that 3 are in Greenways and 2 have just been sold ......... magical .
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3 hours ago, vanessan said:
There are still some private boats moored in the dyke, on both sides, but I don’t think there are as many as there used to be. There seems to be a fairly high turnover too.
Really and what are you basing that conclusion on ?
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9 hours ago, imtamping2 said:
I will get some pics and measurements up ,no worries.
Yes it can flood but so did the other 24 hour tbf
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6 hours ago, imtamping2 said:
I will get some pics and measurements up ,no worries.
Ok I have now got some pics and measurements , but before we go into these lets get things right ..... The BA stated it would cost them £1600 per metre to pile the 100 metres ..... I think we can assume that that is the gross amount not just for materials .
Lets also take into consideration the fact that they would be carrying out the work with the machinery that we have already paid for and the wages of the men that we are already paying whether they are piling or carrying out other duties.
Ok so that should leave us with a net cost far below the quoted £1600 per meter . with this in mind I add the following .
Out of the 100 metres the first 45 metres from the river mouth are already piled leaving 55 metres to be completed .
I have also added some pics of the proposed area for your consideration.
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49 minutes ago, Vaughan said:
Perhaps someone could take some photos when they are passing, and post them here for us?
I will get some pics and measurements up ,no worries.
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3 hours ago, Meantime said:
The £2000 per year is for the current mooring location which has good piling. It was the alternative location which had no piling and where it would need to be installed at a cost of £160,000. Yet again another Red Herring.
The proposed new location has some pilling already ….. anyone that has been to the moorings would know that …… BA are making out it’s a mudbank which we all know it isn’t .
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3 hours ago, annv said:
Hi Yes £2000=00 a year is good BUT! add £160,000=00 ( this years price) to this over 5yars is not good value. How much did the Dyke cost i wonder when owner ship changed recently. Perhaps BA missed a opportunity there as electricity is close by. John
It hasn’t changed hands recently .
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