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Good morning Floydraser.
No the ground is not soft, it is a mixture of earth and sand which drains rainwater.
The traces visible in the photos are those of the water outlet trailer which weighs several tons, but the ground does not sink any further.....

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Hi Vaughan.

As you can see with details picture the boat is not directly on "breeze block" building bricks.

There's wood pieces between....

Is it a problem ?

 

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For Vaughan: Can you advise me, a French insurer ?

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Hi everybody.

My first boat is now out of water ;)

 

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There's 2 week, i had by a new one Caribeean Major ;)

 

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Hi everybody.

My Boat is now cleaning ;)

 

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My project....

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Hi. join the cleaned général drawing 

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Hi Everybody.

My engine is Thornycroft T90 / BMC 1500D 35hp 4 Cylinder Heat Exchanger Cooled Marine Diesel Engine:

Packagehttps://data2.manualslib.com/pdf4/88/8748/874762-thornycroft/90.pdf?ebf1b85b9295caf2af8f72d92fee109d

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5 hours ago, Vaughan said:

Sauf que la loi a changé depuis ma retraite, vous avez besoin d'un permis, mais si vous en avez déjà, aucun problème. Le mien n'a jamais été controllé en croisière, même sur la Seine à Paris!

Unless the law has changed since I retired, you need a permis, but if you have one, no problem! I have never been asked to show mine when cruising, even on the Seine in Paris!

In the photo I notice you have a whip aerial for VHF radio. Very useful for calling up lock-keepers, on the commercial canals.

Yes the boat is VHF equiped, but i need a licence to use it, to my knowledge.

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12 minutes ago, zoufry said:

Hi Vaughan, i will write in french because i don't now how to traduce it:

En France sur le document administratif du bateau, il est indiqué le numéro d'INSCRIPTION et non d'immatriculation, il semble donc qu'un permis fluvial (que j'ai quand même) ne soit pas nécessaire, cela m'a été confirmé par l'ancien propriétaire qui le pilotait sans permis...

Dans ce cas, je pense que la cylindrée moteur n'a pas d'influence comme en mer.

Je précise que sur le certificat d'inscription, le moteur y est indiqué ainsi que sa puissance de 22.82kw, soit effectivement un peu plus d'une trentaine de puissance chevaux.

Cyrille.

In France on the administrative document of the boat, it is indicated the REGISTRATION number and not the registration number, so it seems that a river license (which I still have) is not necessary, this has been confirmed to me by the previous owner who drove it without a licence...

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8 hours ago, Vaughan said:

Quite true, but it gets a little complicated in France.  French boat registration nowadays quotes the engine capacity in kilowatts.

A pleasure boat of under 15 metres can be driven by those with the "permis fluvial" but up until about 1995 they were registered as having a horsepower of less than 9.9.  So the permis bateau was known as the "neuf neuf".

How this was calculated I don't know, as it doesn't have anything to do with the horsepower of the engine!

BMC 1500 means, of course, a cylinder capacity of 1500 cubic centimetres, or 1.5 litres.

As opposed to the Perkins 4108, which means 4 cylinders, of 108 cu. inches capacity.

Hi Vaughan, i will write in french because i don't now how to traduce it:

En France sur le document administratif du bateau, il est indiqué le numéro d'INSCRIPTION et non d'immatriculation, il semble donc qu'un permis fluvial (que j'ai quand même) ne soit pas nécessaire, cela m'a été confirmé par l'ancien propriétaire qui le pilotait sans permis...

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8 minutes ago, zoufry said:

I had found something there:

https://manuels-moteurs-marins.com/marques/thornycroft-manuel.php

I think that is the T80D on my boat.........

More complet for my English friends ;)))

https://manuels-moteurs-marins.com/marine-engine-manuals/technicals-manuals.php

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18 minutes ago, JawsOrca said:

A couple of links google suggest:

https://www.thornycroftengines.com/out-of-production-engines 

https://www.manualslib.com/brand/thornycroft/engine.html

Thanks a lot ,)

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I had found something there:

https://manuels-moteurs-marins.com/marques/thornycroft-manuel.php

I think that is the T80D on my boat.........

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Hi everybody.

Does anyone have some technicals information about his motor; THORNYCROFT, n° de série 3293, power 22,82kw ?

Thanks by advance to your help.

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34 minutes ago, zoufry said:

My future steering wheel....

 

 

My documentation collect:

 

 

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2 hours ago, zoufry said:

Hi everybody.

My project grow up slowly.

I post some pictures of the boat before (when it was clean and used), and now after more than 5 years fixed.

Does anyone have some technicals information about his motor; THORNYCROFT, n° de série 3293, power 22,82kw ?

Thanks by advance to your help.

My future steering wheel....

 

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Hi everybody.

My project grow up slowly.

I post some pictures of the boat before (when it was clean and used), and now after more than 5 years fixed.

Does anyone have some technicals information about his motor; THORNYCROFT, n° de série 3293, power 22,82kw ?

Thanks by advance to your help.

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6 minutes ago, zoufry said:

Ok thanks for your precisions

Joint the 2022 VNF Card ;)))

Carte Réseau VNF de Voies navigables de France 2022.pdf

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4 hours ago, Vaughan said:

That must be an old map as it does not show the navigable part of the river Lot, on either side of Cahors.

It would be best to get up-to-date information by contacting VNF.

Ok thanks for your precisions

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2 hours ago, Vaughan said:

It would not be more than 2 feet 6 inches and may be less - about 2ft 3in.

In all the time I have been in France, starting in 1983, I have always been told that there is no connection between the canals of Brittany and the navigations of north east France, and that the Loire is not navigable above Saumur.

In France there are 3 categories of navigation : The first category is big rivers such as the Seine, Rhone and Rhine, and large canals of "grand gabarit commerciel".  Hire boats are only allowed to operate on rivers and canals of the third category and so these are the areas I tend to know best!

It would be best to ask VNF (Voies Navigables de France) whose siège sociale is in Béthune.

That's what i had found ;(

Carte Voies Navigables France.pdf

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4 hours ago, zoufry said:

Hello Vaughan.

I have another question as you seem to know the area perfectly.

I plan to take the barge up to Blois, as much as possible by river via the Briare canal towards Montargis.

To my knowledge, the Orléans canal which arrives from Montargis to Combleux (Orléans) "is no longer navigable", is there anyway a way to use it?

I will then finish up to Blois by the Loire, at a time when the waters will be high enough, the idea being to do only a minimum on the Loire.

Theoretically the simplest would be to go directly up the Loire to Blois, but technically i prefer to follow the maximum secure ways ..............

Thank you for your opinion.

Another question:

I have read in different places about different drafts for this Carabbean model.
What is the reality: manufacturer data?