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In reply to Manko I believe we have a lot more incidents in the basin than the main part of the island from smaller craft, mainly from small craft mooring alongside either to fish or gain access to the land for supplies such as firewood. It has never been a major issue as most ask first and its not an issue. My issue this time was that I went down my boat to find the small craft chained to my rails and a pile of firewood on my roof and the subsequential damage. If the person in question had moored behind my boat to use the decking to gain access to the land there wouldn't of been any problem atall.
99.99999999% of people would of apologised but I received the polar opposite response to this.
I don't wish to Hijack this thread so this is my final comment.
Thanks Brandenjg
Thanks for the reply. I realise where you are now, and that I don't know you. I visit the basin occasionally and know one or two people there but obviously not you.
This makes it clear what I suspected....that this incident occurred in the basin 500 yards from River Green, and an area containing privately owned boats, a Marina in fact.
In other words Strowager, this is not an example at all of the things that happen on River Green's 24 hour moorings, as seems to be inferred. It's not even a public area, it's a Private Marina. It doesn't excuse what happened there, and I certainly wouldn't do that, but I've never ever seen anything like that happen here on River Green.
I hope that clears up the confusion.
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In addition to my previous Post, forgive me Branden, but I don't know who you are....which part of the island are you moored on? I'm Nick, I live on River Green opposite the church
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I see the photo has been deleted but I'd be interested to know who the two people are who are involved in the incident described by by brandenjg....seems out of character for this sort of thing to happen on the island. Word travels fast and I've heard nothing of it.
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I wasn't there, a friend of mine emailed the pic. Yes, the sign if interpreted literally is rather nonsensical.
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This is at Bramerton a few days ago. The pictures say it all. It's still ok to leave rubbish there, but in danger of becoming a health hazard as it's overflowing.We've not seen any problems on the Southern Broads.
Dave
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I hope you telephoned Broads Control, Roy. What did they have to say?
I live on one end of River Green, opposite the church.
Isn't this sort of thing a slightly aggressive response to what is a minor issue that can be easily solved by taking heed of what Mark says on this thread?
You will find you will actually get a friendly response if you approach anyone on the island, and no one would mind their dinghy being moved. You can actually talk to us, we aren't unapproachable savages living lawlessly on Thorpe Island as seems to be inferred by this.
They certainly aren't all chained. Two at my end were deliberately set adrift last week! I aren't aware of any that are regularly chained and locked, although I stand to be corrected. Drunks staggering home late at night are usually responsible.
You will find a friendly and helpful response from anyone along here, there's no need for all this reporting to the BA and trying to stir up an issue when there really isn't one.
Sounds like they're telling fibs anyway! It'll be interesting to find out the truth of what is happening with the moorings, they seem to be in breach of their contract. The ugly fencing they've erected rather than repairing the quay heading is causing a major upset to Thorpe St Andrew Town Council and blights what is the jewel in the crown of the area. It's a disgrace frankly. I know they had a stakeholders meeting on July 22nd to discuss the situation, and infuriated the council even more by not inviting them. I don't know the outcome of that, maybe someone on here knows more.
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Access to Cayenne Marina is over the bridge, which is fully operational and usable. There is car parking on the island.
After the recent Public Inquiry it looks like the problems may be over for this marina, fingers crossed, although the decision isn't due for a few weeks yet.
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Looks just about adequate to me, with the addition of a portable gas ring for a cuppa on the go
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I live on my boat on Thorpe Island. One day last year (I think) I was getting in my tender and noticed something jammed between it and my boat. On closer inspection I found it to be a sheep.
Yuck.
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It's certainly an interesting cruise isn't it. I've done it many times from my boat moored at Thorpe Island.
I've even been to see Norwich City play by boat, although every effort seems to have been taken to prevent anyone mooring on that stretch of river.
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Broads Authority Notice.
A new officer to deal with unauthorised moorings.
Enforcement officer John Coles has been appointed to investigate
the increasing number of people living on boats on unauthorised moorings,
abandoned vessels and unauthorised riverside development on the Broads.
The role is funded for two years by
the Planning Delivery Grant and is currently focussing
on Thorpe Island and Haddiscoe Cut.
If a satisfactory resolution is not
achieved by negotiation then the use
of enforcement action will require
boats to move within a given time.
If the owner still does not comply John may then apply to the Planning Committee
to take direct action to remove the boat and recover costs.
john coles
A quick update....
the enforcement notice served on my neighbours has been withdrawn, as I predicted at the start. The Enforcement Notice on the bungalow on Thorpe Island has also been withdrawn.
Also, word on the street (as it were) is that the Enforcement Officer appointed specially to deal with the issue of liveaboards, John Coles, has resigned today.
This is from a very good source, although not officially confirmed. If anyone knows more....fill us in!
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Manko proudly says earlier on that the Thorpe Island residents do not pay Council Tax - why ever not? I suspect some of them actually step off the island to use facilities which they take for granted but now get free!!! In fact i would be seriosly worried if I did not pay tax - payment gives a degree of legitimacy and it is for that reason and that reason alone the Council will not claim tax!! They do not want them around either and to stop residents paying is just that, not a victory for the residents!!!
You obviously failed to read or understand my post so I won't bother explaining it again. I would obviously be wasting my time.
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hi manko
welcome to the forum and thanks for the local info
jill
Thanks Jill,
I'm sure I registered here before, but failed to remember the correct password or email, so off we go again....
Nick
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Just as an aside, the amphibious craft referred to earlier on Thorpe Island is not WWII, but dates back to 1967 and saw service in the Vietnam War.
I'm talking to myself now...ha ha!
For those who might be interested....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LARC-V
here is an article on wikipedia about the LARC as it is known
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As has been previously mentioned allowing live-aboards in marinas/yards would enable the marina owner to dictate standards, they have quite detailed terms associated with their mooring agreement so un-desirables, in what ever form, would quickly find no where to moor.
I think it a cracking idea to allow limited live-aboard space in marinas and yards but of course the live-aboard owner still has very little rights, they can be ejected at any time from their moorings, so to some extent it is still a nomadic life.
Just out of interest would they be liable to pay council tax?
You're talking quite a bit of sense Smellyloo, although the nomadic life bit would hopefully not be such an issue were legal residential moorings available.
As for council tax, residents here on Thorpe Island used to pay council tax until the council decided that they were exempt. The council tax we would theoretically be paying was then effectively put on my landlords business rates instead, so we pay - albeit indirectly.
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Just as an aside, the amphibious craft referred to earlier on Thorpe Island is not WWII, but dates back to 1967 and saw service in the Vietnam War.
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With reference to the 'eyes and ears' comments - that has certainly proved to be the case here at Thorpe Island.
Last week for instance there was some organised thieving going on round here. A person was apprehended at 5.00am (!) going round with a stolen dinghy full of stolen boat things - mainly oars (there were more than ten) as well as an expensive electric outboard and a stolen boat canopy being used as a cover for the contraband.
Without the actions of a liveaboard - incidentally from the south side of Thorpe Island - the stolen goods would not have been retrieved. My neighbour and I went down the river for a look later on and also recovered another stolen dinghy hidden up a small cut.
Shockingly we have very good descriptions etc, and have also seen the perpetrator return, but despite ringing the Broads Beat they have yet to either return my calls or visit me when they said they would. I still have some of the items here if anyone would like to claim them.
I'll say no more at the moment about Broads Beat as they have promised yet again to visit the Thorpe Island Residents Association next wednesday - I'll reserve my judgement until then.
I shudder to think what security would be like on Thorpe Island though without liveaboards present - and if the BA have their way, that is what will occur.
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I live on Thorpe Island and the amphibious landing craft referred to is certainly not a liveaboard. I haven't seen it leaking any fluids, and nor is it half sunk.
It has no engine and is used as a workboat to take over the bins every week. It has to be towed across to perform this task.
It is an interesting vessel to say the least, but is hardly an example that should be used to criticise liveaboards.
Mooring at Thorpe Green
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Yet again you have got it wrong Strowager.
The line of commuter dinghies, as you call them, originate from the boats opposite. Where Branden refers to the basin is accessible by road. Dinghies aren't used to access the boats. So you would never find yourself in the position of trying to contact an owner from there. It's a huge distance away, not 'a few yards' as you put it.
I still don't know who was involved in this incident but it's got nothing whatsoever to do with 'commuter dinghies'.
See how a little misinformation can put a whole different spin on the issue?
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