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Hi Barry, Just asked Bill for you, and he says it depends on the type of glue used, but he says that it may be able to be softened with a blast from a hot hairdryer, and scraping with a floor scraper as you go.
Julz
Hi,Julz, did not think of that probably as i did not have the dryer to hand at the time,so tried soaking in white spirit and will leave it awhile, somehow don't think it will work.
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I am in the process of removing old carpet put in by a hire boatyard and it looks like they have glued some of it to the floor is there anything to use that will unglue the carpet and make it easier to remove?
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Glad you had a great time Mark,liked the 2 sunsets brilliant colours and yes you certainly picked the right week for the weather little wind and dry and mostly sunny.
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Hi,Mark,Very nearly went darn sarf for the Easter weekend to Geldeston/Beccles as that is where the Southern meet is going to be, thought of it then decided to motor to Coltishall/Wroxham/Acle/Barton Turf instead as hav'nt been there for awhile.knew you would have a good time as have been down there a good few times so know the area well,and now have a boat that will go thro Beccles bridge.
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I recommend this.
My dad had one of them david must be worth a small fortune,don't make them like that anymore,thank god.
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Gosh what a horrible mess it leaves cannot believe many boats have that condition as bad as that.My boat is 30 years old you would have thought that it would have had it at some point.Would not like that condition whilst at sea you need all the resources you can.
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We will be, again up north around Ludham.
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He isnt that bad is he Pete
Nigel,
We had a Sleipner unit marketed as Side Power fitted to ours by JPC (Moores) at Wroxham and although fitted in 06 was quoted (and honoured) at 05 prices so I am a little out of date as far as current prices go but the BT was just less than 2K.
Best ask Barry about current prices as he has just had his done.
There is another thread on here somewhere but I am too dumb to put up a link as to why we chose JPC for the work but briefly they were the only ones that quoted that identified a problem with our Hull form as they had retrofitted BT's to their own Braemores which is the same boat as ours.
Perhaps someone who knows what they are doing could post the link to the old thread.
Rod
Hi,Rod,Just had a Volvo BT fitted by broom boats of Brundall,it is a CT600 which equates to a 4kw power unit and to get it into a bounty because there is only about 10 inches under the floorboards it is a horizontal engine and cost £2,850 fitted and situated only about 5 feet from the bows so gets maximum advantage and there is also a dedicated 100amp battery situated about 4 foot from the engine.The engineer Bringing the boat back to its mooring remarked how pleased he was at the power shown by the BT very responsive.It is the first and maybe not the last to be fitted to a bounty 37 by them due to its very shallow hull shape.It was a very profesional job done and am made up,less stress for me and the wife now.
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Hi Mark,
Bow Thrusters are a very useful tool and the vast majority of ships these days are fitted with them as a manouvering aid.
Please dont view one as a further complication and if you can handle a boat without one you will only find that they will make your life easier not harder.
Any time you are coming into a side on mooring and you are coming in a bit too quickly sideways a short burst of the BT will cushin the controlled collision that any berthing is. If you make the approach and find you are too far out then a burst towards the quay will save any requirement for the rope handeler to have long legs (never Jump).
Leaving a berth there will be no requirememnt for a push off as a burst away from the berth will send the bow out or a burst towards the berth will kick the stern out.
Reversing will be so much easier as you can steer the boat in reverse by using the BT instead of sawing back and forth on the throttle. BT ' s as mentioned earlier are better when moving slowly fwd or when stopped. They are best when moving astern. Take my word for it otherwise I may have to dredge up a long tome on the pivot point of vessels and how it moves around when changing from headway to sternway
So thats everyday berthing operations covered.
When these things really come into their own is when there is any wind.
Broads boats being generally flat bottomed will blow around all over the place in any wind and while this can be counteracted by using the rudder and throttle to control the stern the bow tends to do its own thing. The BT gives you control over the pointy end. This is most useful when stern mooring in a crosswind.
As mentioned earlier they can get you off the berth when pinned on by an onshore wind without having to resort to using boathooks mops etc to get the bow away from the quay, and can save the risk of a broken leg by some well meaning folk using a well placed boot to fend off when being blown alongside.
Contrary to what is said above they are ideal for turning boats around in tight spaces and if its really tight then using the ropes and the BT is really useful.
With practice you should be able to move the boat sideways with no fwd or aft movement by juggling the ahead and astern movements and applying the BT but as I said this will take some practice. (yes its easier with a stern thruster as well but it can be done).
Getting in and out of tight spaces becomes a much more relaxed manouver as you are in total control of the boat even if it is windy.
Downsides?
Battery drain is not normally a problem as the engine is usually running when the BT is in use. You cannot burn out the BT motor as thay are protected and the BT will stop working before you get anywhere near burn out. Anyway they are only used for short periods when mooring anyway. The ones that have given problems are when Hirers use them to steer the boat when underway normally as this is certainly not what they are for.
The only one I can think of is if you dont realise that by applying the BT one way the stern will go the other but that is basic boat handeling and as you have already said you had no probs in the past without a BT so you will know this already.
Oh and you will have a few Traditionalists who will accuse you of cheating but I think thts more to do with the green eyed monster
rather than any thing else. Few who have actually had a boat with a BT will want to go back to one without.
Enjoy Your Holiday and I hope you have found this helpful.
Rod
I did Rod,as i have only just got mine and have not used it yet looking forward to the extra help and keeping my stress levels down.
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Took the boat back to the mooring after being on land for a few months and i must say the new Bowthruster surprised me at its power and ability to move the bows so quickly it is the Volvo CT600 version which is a 4KW motor and very powerful to will have some fun using it i am sure.
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Newf, You would be far more impressed with a Nanni
I'll second that,quiete,powerful,economical and smooth running.
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Now less that 2 days to close fishing season,i wonder how many people i will catch fishing.last year i saw some hire boaters fishing but not many.
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Bowthrusters ....... Now what do you need them for then ???
Mark,if you saw me coming out of my berth you would know why it was getting very difficult to turn into the wind when strong as i have only limited room behind me then straight away i am in trouble with the wind blowing me sideways down the Marina towards some anchors sticking out on the bigger boats how i missed hitting one of them and taking the top off the roof must have been sheer luck.
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Hi,Rod,
have finally got my BT fitted by Broom Boats of Brundall,simon there engineer has done a fantastic job the neatness of the wiring is exceptional,he also found some 12 volt wiring near the batteries which were dodgy which had some glass 1970's fuses fitted and could have caused a meltdown in certain situations. The bilge pump was on the same wiring as the fridge can you believe that.The thruster engine is from Volvo and is fitted within about 5/6 foot from the bows due to a fairly new design whereas instead of it being vertical it is horizontal.It has its own dedicated battery situated only about 4 feet from the engine. When they started they had to cut a large portion away of the hull (which alarmed me at the time,bit like chopping your arm off) then fitting a long tunnel to get better effect then getting a specialist local company in to finish fibreglassing it all in a neat aerodynamic shape.looks good,apparently its the first time they have done it on a bounty 37 due no doubt to the very little room that they have to fit it but with the new engine it became easier you only need a clearance of less than a foot under the floorboards. all in all a very profesional job done and cost me in total £2,850 can't wait to use it.Would recommend them.also me thinks they will have a few more to do before long as there are a lot of Bountys out there.
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Hav'nt done any fishing so far this year too busy with other things at the mo including this forum.
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Still time yet to catch a BIG one!! now wheres my rod ooops gone in water,doh.
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Put your river rods away. 11:59 and 59 seconds on March 14th and don't fish the rivers until June 16th 00:00 and 1 second.
the fishing season is 16th June to 14th March
Tight lines
Still time yet to catch a BIG one!!
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Have been looking at this website for a little while now some stunning pics and very good info supplied,go on have a peek you know you want to.
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A new website i have found.
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Where's that Barry?? I got to the marina around 10.30am and left about 4 pm, but did I see Barry, No! did a nice little circuit diagram for him, and even took my spare 12v Bible that I was going to let him have, Oh well theres always next Saturday,,
Sorry Frank,apoligies Olive my wife talked me into going shopping in Norwich and i completely forgot many sorrys frank.(Must have had a senior moment)If you are there next saturday i will make sure to see you.doh.
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Hi Barry
from the looks of it when manovering it has a bow thruster
Jonny
I know who would come off worse if it hit my plastic boat.
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moving off
I am sorry but those juggernauts do not belong on the broads,just my opinion. can you imagine the chaos that would ensue with that monstrocity trying to turn round there in summer.
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Barry! if your anywhere near Broadsedge this coming saturday pop in and see me on Dragonfly, you know where I am in the new part! I'm in the middle of re-wiring all my lights and everything else, so I can run you through what you need to do,,
Frank,,,
Thanks,Frank,I will see you saturday morning.
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Good luck Barry
Bl--dy ell dave hope not might have to call up the local italian restruant for info of how to sort the spaghetti out,doh.
rather than any thing else. 
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Iv'e never seen glue like it tried to scrape it off stuck solid,did annoy me at the time no wonder they put newer but still crap carpet on top.