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Dilham is def worth a try, but maybe better in May then your Summer one, and you surprise me with Upton as I thought it was narrower, so will certainly give that a go as have never ventured up there
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Janet was tempted but we wanted to protect your asset too. Might have to give it a go at Upton Dyke in May though, just hope any damage does,nt spoil the next users week.. Oh, that would be you
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Hi Andrea, we took Thunder up there last Sept hoping to get a mooring and with some trepidation as she is 43ft. There were none available and to make it worse some one was also moored over the Basin. We managed to turn her with some assistance but had to move another boat a little to fit Thunders bow in between. So.. in answer to your question if you are 42 ft it can be done even with other Boats there
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Like Matts says can be tricky getting onto one especially at Easter , but can add these . Yes Ludham bridge does have one, its on the right hand bank heading up stream directly after the bridge.
Acle Bridge Inn has electric on its paid moorings (refundable against a meal)
Irstead Staithe
Sutton Staithe
Hoveton / Wroxham
Dilham Staithe
Stokesby, and of course Gt Y Yacht station
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Steve , you can take either a standard day boat or a picnic boat from Herbert Woods to get under the Bridge and into the Upper Thurne system , probably the quietest section of the Broads. If you took a picnic boat you can only book the full day in advance not the half day. You can also moor your hire boat in their yard .
For pubs
You have the Lion at West Sommerton, http://www.somertonlion.co.uk/
The Pleasure Boat at Hickling (great if you like Ciders) http://www.thepleasureboat.com/
Also the Nelson Head near by to Horsey Dyke and could also make a visit to Horsey gap to see the Seal colony
Have a great time.
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Will depend on what you want. If a pub and food and some facilities then Ranworth staithe in the North (on Malthouse broad as mentioned above) is very popular it has the Maltsers serving excellent food, and the Staithe has a shop , tricity hook up and water , and there is also a walk way / nature trail leading to a closed to boating Broad next door.
Horning also mentioned has several pubs and shops, and also (if on a hire boat) the Ferry marina where you can moor with any other hire craft if members of the Hire boat federation. Very useful as like with all the popular moorings they tend to get very busy. If you can get under Wroxham bridge there are lot of moorings and plenty to do in and around Wroxham itself especially if you are taking children.
In the South all as mentioned earlier are good and also easier to get moored overall as the South is less busy , you can also add Norwich yacht station if you want a night out in Norwich or shopping, and one of my own favourites (for its pub) Surlingham Ferry (Note : the ferry long since ceased operation)
if you are looking for somewhere more quiet then in the North, Salhouse is very pleasant, you can either pay to moor and can then walk to the Fur and feather, excellent food and also home to Woodfordes brewery , or you can mud weight in the middle of the Broad and have a meal on Board and watch the sun go down.
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"If you put these two together do you get three ? "
John: I think the former of the two refered to the further reductions that this council intends to make by March 2016 and which has been referenced earlier on in this thread by location, whilst the latter by the BA refers to the supposed lack of complaints received following the reductions already made during 2015. Not that his helps the case, but places the context.
Robin: If indeed the hire yards have to empty their bins more frequently and incur the resulting cost, then you can bet dollars to donuts that a waste surcharge will ultimately appear on the hire tariffs and the councils will think "job done"
As for the pay per use moorings such as Salhouse for eg where there is no bin on site but rather only at the end of the public road a good 10 mins or so away (which some many neither venture onto nor know to do so) then it is not unreasonable for the owners to support this type of service (and not at a extra charge) as a commercial venture, after all it is one of the most expensive to use and seems to have little investment put back eg takes yonks to fill with water if you end with the "dodgy hose".
Having said all of that I agree, the 2016 season will almost certainly be the tester and dependent on how that goes we may well see the true direction of travel on this subject . A long Hot summer with an extended busy season and lots of smelly rubbish to boot fouling the area could lead to a very different view and outcome at the end of it if compared to a cool, wash out, short season !
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Referencing Monicas link to the BA navigations review of waste facilities and (6) its conclusion .
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"... Given the lack of complaints received and any budgetary provision being made, it is proposed that the position regarding waste facilities continue to be closely monitored over the next year. This will enable officers is to see whether any further issues arise and that further consideration be given to a project in future for a more comprehensive waste facility provision in future years should the need be determined and budget available. members views are sought on this approach"
So the cynic in me would suggest that they can cover themselves by stating that as yet there is no problem due to an apparent lack of complaints ?? Should there however be so in future then they may consider a project to look at it and if something needs to be done, then it will be subject to any budget being available.
Not quite using the line of stating that its not their legal responsibility, rather more a case of there is not really a problem here as we see it but we may well look at it again should we be find ourselves in a position where the metaphorical "long grass" has been mowed.
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Lastdraft: It was not intended as a jibe, just a answer to the comment from Paul about Jose M. Nevertheless I do agree with you, failure (sacking) has its rewards in football, and Neil has therefore been extremely well rewarded for his considerable efforts in this cause.
Alan: Interesting, as thats how I imagine him to be in earlier life, whilst Jose on the other had was likely the child who burned insects through a magnifying glass and then blamed a sibling !
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Paul, no. Neil Warnock has already been sacked twice by Palace, and if QPR eventually make him permanent and then sack him it will be the second time hes been sacked twice by the same club!
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Robin re the damage waiver: You are 100% right that even £200 wont put right the damage to the boat, but the point is that for the Hirer who stands to lose the £200 , it can be a fairly large chunk of his/her money for nothing, and may (granted its only a may) make some think twice before taking a risk on the basis of "ah well my damage waiver will cover any damage risk so its not my loss... so I,ll go for it "
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Cant help but wonder if the matter would,nt be improved if the collision damage waiver was done away with by the Hire yards and make the risk of losing a deposit more prominent
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Again, if only after a mooring.... then Whitlingham is great and in good weather offers a wonderful walk around the Broad
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Was being recovered by Liberte when we went past y.day afternoon
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Peter, a cynic might say its the European environmental lobby with a far higher political profile to effect change (for CO2) than the equivalent in the US ? Whatever, if its proved or suspected that policy makers in Europe have designed limits and rules which the manufacturers can then subsequently easily by pass at a lower cost to them, then a conspiracy theorist might conclude that they have worked together to reduce the CO2 levels from vehicles and achieve a political goal, but at the expense of creating excessive other harmful emissions by having to push diesel instead as the replacement.
Your question is very salient in that most business is represented in Govts so the same people are lobbying for their own interests.
But getting back to a Broads theme perhaps electric might now get more attention or.... perish the thought and as you have already said... sail !
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100% right Bait runner, and I see today that BMW and Daimer shares are down more than 5% and Renault 5.6% so someone surely knows something.
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Bait Runner ; Depends on what emissions are being measured in the relevant test and in this case its the NOx which Europe has been less stringent in enforcing whilst concentrating on CO2. hence the "Drive for Diesel" and the issues that are now coming to light.
With the US however its been more of a case of the other way around, they have concentrated more on reducing NOx as a clearly defined health hazard today - especially in the Metropolitan areas, but are not so stringent on CO2 which they see as a hazard "tomorrow" and is why they buy far fewer diesels than Europe whereas we have been incentivised to buy them - your earlier post re the 3 litre diesel and road tax refers.
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Diesel can be scrubbed of the NOx emissions via the addition of Urea but requires tanks/re fills (and no you cant just pee in the tank)
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-11/i-uto111008.php
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I think one of the big issues to come is illustrated in many of the other posts in that people believe that because they are driving more modern vehicles they are cleaner. Diesels can indeed be made to be very clean if the correct tech is fitted, however if it is proved that the manufacturers are indeed fitting devices to stop / limit emissions when detecting the car is on test in order to pass emission standards then the whole diesel environmental con is going to be exposed, and the below article today is very timely
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/11878435/Europe-must-now-come-clean-on-diesel.html
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Matt, we,ll be there early October so will have three for you !
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Bait runner : The reason you can run a 3.0 diesel car with no road tax is because Road tax for the privately owned car is based on CO2 emissions.
Unless you have a company car (where diesel currently incurs a 3% extra BIK charge but due to be merged in line with petrol car in tax year 2016/17), there is no correlation between your car tax and its diesel emissions.
The authorities have encouraged us all to buy diesel so as to assist in saving polar bears etc, however seemed to forget that at the same time Nitrogen Dioxide emissions from diesel are also bad for us and even worse so if you have the misfortune to suffer from lung problems.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26257703
So yes I think its fair to say that it is indeed a pollution concern as opposed to not, but as usual the road to hell is paved with good intentions as we have at least reduced some CO2 from cars by moving to diesel
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Allan you can also see from below that London will start restricting from 2020 and other Cities intend to follow suit
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Thanks for that info, will be interesting to see how well the new meters do when accepting a card compared to current, unless of course the BA intend to change the way it/they work/s?
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Griff, back at beginning of July you said that an announcement would be forthcoming about the future of the Bridge.
I may have missed it and cant seem to find anything subsequent to that, other than from the below, site which still shows as sold subject to contract http://www.fleurets.com/properties/e-514314/pubs-for-sale/bridge-inn-restaurant-norwich-norfolk
It does seems to be operating fine and have been in there twice since but can you say any more ?
Dilham Staithe
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Trick is to look really scared and paniced near the Sailies and help is swifty forth coming. Only joking for those of a rag and stick persuasion