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Assuming the yard sells for somewhere around the mid point, £300k then with the income from the moorings alone it is producing a return on investment of approx 5.3% with virtually no effort. In addition there is the prospect of building up the business by taking on marine servicing and repairs. You'd be hard pushed to find a bank willing to pay you 5.3% interest on your savings.
As an investment to supplement income, or retirement income it just about works. If you were to invest £300k in a riverside apartment in Norwich and rent it out you'd probably expect to get around £1100 per month rental.
For a younger energetic person looking to expand the business by adding to the mooring income with marine servicing and repairs, perhaps day boat rental, then it has the chance to sustain a full time employment and living.
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1 hour ago, MauriceMynah said:
Note to self. Their is not the same as there and there is not the same as they're and they're is not the same as their... even if some people think it is.
There's some truth in the above!
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10 minutes ago, andyg said:
Maybe some ppl need to go to lathams and see if they sell sense of humours.
Judging by the frosty response they sold them all to make space for the freezers!
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2 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said:
In all fairness, Latham's may well well tat, but it's damned good tat. Probably the best tat in Norfolk.
Certainly the best tat in Potter! Think you might find a much bigger selection of tat in Grot Yarmouth!
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10 minutes ago, Chelsea14Ian said:
I love it when people are negative.Really come on it gives choice to boaters and locals.Yes boats don't have freezers,but has improved options. It's a standing yoke Lathams is tatland.Which I think is a bit unfair.
I wasn't being negative, just realistic! I also added the pictures to help people out, so no negativity here thank you!
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I can just see the advertising slogan now!
Mums go to Iceland, Boaters go to Tatland!
Given the size of the freezer compartment on most boats I should be able to fill mine for 99p
I can just hear the conversation now,
Mum "What do you want kids. Chicken nuggets or chips?"
Kids "Both"
Mum "Well you can't, I've only space in the freezer for one or the other"
I'm not sure the investment in new freezers and the expansion of the frozen food section is really aimed at or much use to boaters.
Might need to take a chainsaw to the pizzas to fit them in my boat freezer compartment!
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There is nothing wrong with BBQs, even disposable ones, just the people that use them irresponsibly. If I use a disposable BBQ when boating it gets placed on a couple of bits of wood on top of an aluminum fold up picnic table. When the whole lot has gone cold it gets placed in a bag and put back on the boat and the table folded up again.
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10 minutes ago, YnysMon said:
It's very noticeable how much extra we are spending on fuel anyway. Our fuel was £1.55 per litre when we had a week in May and £1.80 in July - both fuel from Boulter's.
My first fill up just after buying my boat was 31.5p per litre. Seemed like it was going to be such a cheap hobby.
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Yes it definitely sounds like a different boat, which means there are at least two in that area that need to be spoken to by the rangers. They are entitled to their fun in the appropriate zones and whilst keeping a proper look out for other craft, but the incident I reported happened in a 5mph area with two moorings in close proximity, both comprising pontoon moorings and a canoe landing mooring.
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On 20/07/2022 at 16:27, addicted said:
On the way there we encountered a speedboat and water skier, who seemed to have one ambition - to sink us! They quite literally aimed straight for us 5 times! Everything in the boat that wasn't fixed fell over and we now have a nasty chip in the enamel on our sink. At one point I really thought we were going to turnover. It was extremely scary. We arrived at Oulton a bit shaken and very grateful to be in one piece.
I was moored in Oulton Dyke last night and sitting at the helm reading a book when I heard and then saw a ski boat come from the Oulton Broad direction on the plane. The wash was very severe. Luckily my phone was to hand so I stood up to take a picture, which caused them to slow down. However they still went past moored boats way too fast and their wash carried on for some considerable time. I managed to get 6 good quality pictures which identify the boat and most of its occupants. This morning they have been sent to Broads Control. For obvious reasons I won't post the pictures here, but hopefully a word will be had. I have also raised my concerns about the lack of clear large reg numbers as required by the regs for water skiing. The boat I saw had only a short visit toll, but I still got a picture of it. I later saw a second boat going at a sensible speed and creating virtually no wash, but again there was a lack of any clear reg numbers which would have been an issue if an incident had occurred in a water ski zone, or for that matter anywhere on the river.
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I've never really understood why that stretch of road is a 50mph limit. I know the road is fairly straight and with good visibility, but you have a number of busy junctions onto the road and the one by Tesco's in particular is a 20mph zone straight out onto a 50 mph road. Then you have the pedestrian island where you can cross from Stalham staithe into the town centre. There are no barriers around the island and you can end up standing there with traffic going past in each direction at 50mph. I'm sure there's a case for dropping the limit to 40mph from Stepping Stone Lane to somewhere past the Richardsons turn, with a pelican crossing installed to cross the road from the staithe.
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11 minutes ago, YnysMon said:
I agree that the subsequent discussion was going around in circles though.
A bit like hose reels unless there banned as well!
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Is this not the NBNF? Norfolk Broads Network Forum?
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1 hour ago, Chelsea14Ian said:
There's no need,there's no hosepipe ban here.
And even if there was, it wouldn't affect you filling your boat!
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2 hours ago, Mouldy said:
Just before I retired, the company I worked for started to take delivery of a fleet of new trucks, equipped with cameras and screens instead of mirrors.
2 hours ago, Mouldy said:I believe they’re now being fitted to some car makes. My opinion is that it’s tech for the sake of it.
Not just trucks and cars. I believe you can now get them on some hire boats! At least they can see how hard they reverse into you.
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7 minutes ago, Hylander said:
My point in mentioning this, is, if you are on a meter, can you still use the water? Remember Water Companies are there to make a profit.
No, a hose pipe ban is a hose pipe ban regardless of how much money you have to waste, or whether you have a meter or not. The only people allowed to waste water in this country and they do it on a vast scale are the water companies themselves!
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9 minutes ago, OldBerkshireBoy said:
I would think allotments growing food would be exempt. Dont want council wardens turning up with moisture probes now do you.
And you would think wrongly. During a hosepipe ban it is not illegal to water your plants, or even wash your car, you just cannot use a hose to do so. You must use a watering can to water plants, there is no distinction on the type of plant, and also a bucket to wash your car, although such use might be frowned upon, it is not illegal.
When it comes to watering plants, it is far better to do so in the evening when the plants get a chance to have a drink before the sun evaporates it.
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2 minutes ago, OldBerkshireBoy said:
A ban will give MM a reason not to clean Nyx, not that he needs one of course!
I never thought of MM as an Eco Environmentalist
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8 minutes ago, OldBerkshireBoy said:
Isnt a hosepipe ban just for watering gardens and the washing of vehicles.
Yes a hosepipe ban is the banning of the use of a hosepipe for certain non essential functions, NOT an outright ban on using hosepipes.
1. Watering the garden
2. Washing your car.
3. Filling or maintaining an ornamental pond or water feature.
4. Filling or maintaining a domestic swimming pool or paddling pool.
5. Cleaning the outside of your house.
I would imagine filling a boat tank for the purposes of drinking or washing yourself would be totally exempt from any hose pipe ban.
Although exempt or not using a hose pipe to wash your boat should be frowned upon regardless during a drought. I guess one or two hire yards this year already seem to be conserving water by not washing boats.
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Around Chelmsford the need to rewild / save money has led to knee high tinder dry conditions right next door to houses with the obvious inherent risk that brings.
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32 minutes ago, andyg said:
Quick question to those that know. But will Richardson's still have to pay some form of business rates on this site even if its un occupied ??
It depends largely on whether they still own or lease the site, but someone would still have to pay business rates. Unoccupied business premises are still liable to business rates, which would be paid either by the freeholder, or alternatively by the leaseholder if they have been leased out.
It is one of the reasons why one of the first things developers will do if they are planning to redevelop a site is to clear it. Generally they do not need planning permission to demolish a commercial building and they stop paying business rates. They can then take their time seeking planning permission for whatever they intend to build and the pressure is on the local authority to encourage redevelopment to get some form of revenue coming back in either in the form of council tax or business rates.
Fortunately for the pub goers amongst us, May 23rd 2017 is an important date when the law was changed to protect pubs. You now need planning permission to demolish a pub or change it's use to another class of business premises such as a Maccy D's or convenience store. This helped to stop the indiscriminate purchase of pubs by developers who would demolish them and then worry about how they were going to develop the site. It doesn't mean that pubs cannot be redeveloped, but it is a more costly process and subject to a lot more scrutiny. It can also be very costly to ignore the law as CTLX found out when they ordered the demolition of The Carlton Tavern in West London. They were hit with an order to do a brick by brick rebuild of the pub which saw it reopen again in April 2021.
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8 hours ago, Bikertov said:
Cash only- someone is not declaring it
That is a rather bold unsubstantiated accusation, unless you have proof?
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34 minutes ago, addicted said:
This has solved what was for me a mystery. I didn't know what database was being referred to or who Craig was. However, in 2007 we had a narrow boat built and returned to it one day to find a chap taking photos of it. I'm presuming this was Craig. How does one access this database?
Carole
It can be found here
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1 hour ago, Vaughan said:
25. Liability.
We cannot accept liability for any damage, expense, injury, death or loss of any nature whatsoever suffered by any persons from any cause whatsoever other than in the case of the proven negligence of ourselves, or employees or agents. Your boating holiday should be a fun and relaxing break. Whilst every effort is made by us to ensure your safety, participants should be aware that boating and associated activities involving the water involve a certain amount of assumed risk. You and your party should accept the inherent risks and ensure that your party has sufficient knowledge, skill and fitness for such activities.
Whilst that may be the standard terms and conditions, let us remind ourselves of the fact that it is an offence under the Byelaws to keep, let for hire or use a vessel in the navigation unless there is in force in relation to the vessel a policy of insurance that complies with Schedule 3 of The Broads Act 2009. Each owner has to declare that they have such an insurance policy in place at the time they toll their boat.
Schedule 3 para 1 states that a policy is required that shall insure the owner of the vessel and such other person, persons or classes of persons as is or are authorised by the owner to have control of the vessel, in respect of any liability which may be incurred by the owner, or any other such person, resulting from the presence of the vessel in the navigation area or on adjacent waters, in respect of death of, or bodily injury to, any person or any damage to property.
Since the above is effectively enshrined in law, I think it would supersede any Ts and Cs of a hire company.
Boatyard Auction
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It's Bungalow Lane that leads down to Freedom's old yard and Griffin Lane that leads down to the boat yard that is for sale by auction.
As commercial premises and boatyards getting planning for a residential development at either would be difficult, as it should be, we need working yards not posh houses.
Re the location of the yard up for sale, it is not on the river front, but tucked around the back. It's been there for far longer than The Postwick flyover and plenty of people seem happy to have moorings at that yard and the others around it.