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thanks for that
yes its defo the reg thats freezing not the bottle thats causing the problems
we just got back and no gas
i heated up the reg and hey presto it all works
the reg is a very old one age unknown tho
we have decided to get an auto change over one and insulate the new reg really well
hopefully this will work
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i have wrapped thermowrap around the reg already
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i was then looking at the auto changeover type
that way when 1 bottle freezes it will change it automatically
they are only about £43 on ebay
so hopefully will solve the problem
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it screws into the bottle
and the bottles are outside on the back of the boat
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yes defo propane
butane doesn't come in 19kg
and it has the male female fitting
yes butane has the quick release one's
the connections are all ok new rubber hose solids joins
i always make sure the nuts etc are done up really tight when changing bottles
i'm an ex builder so have always treated gas with loads of respect
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sounds good but not 100% sure
i am a bit dubious incase something catches fire
esp with the gas bottles lol
i know u're not meant to cover a light shade as the heat will catch it alight
i suppose being outside it will never get that hot
seems strange tho because the bottle is lagged so not sure
i may be completely off line here and don't mean to sound doubtful
or negative esp when u've taken the time to offer advice
but the bottle is lagged well
is that lagging holding the cold air in then?
i thought it would help keep it warm
its the top of the bottle thats freezing as i put a hair dryer on it for 5 mins and heated it and hey presto back to normal
the rest of the bottle was still iced up
that worked for a good few hours but temps gone down more again now so back to freezing
so annoying
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ok sounds good idea
but...........
the box i have my bottle's in is made of decking offcuts
so there is gaps all over it like decking
it designed to blend in rather than shove it in your face
and the whole idea to change everything to gas was to try and reduce the leccy bill lol
a 100w bulb will cost us lots and we are on a meter now
as for the other reply having a seperat supply for water, heating etc
impossible because i have a combi boiler which does heat and water
and then a separate cooker
so i can't have a dif line for water, heating etc
its the boiler thats just being used normally and it trips each night
so we wake to freezing temps while i have to push reset button
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a separate line coming in isn't really an option unfortunately
there is room for 2 bottles in my storage box on the back of the boat
but everything is in the forward cabin so routing a new pipe would be impossible without ripping everything out
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The foam is a very good quality a lot better than the last lot we bought
it springs back every time
only problem we have is we bought the 4" stuff but wish i'd have gone for thicker as it tends to hurt your tailbone after a while
at least its only on the dining seats for now
when i do the main seating area i will use thicker
altho we sit on the dining all the time for now as its the only seating we have lol
i shouldn't of ripped out all the other seating lol
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hiya i use the red bottle's for our heating, hot water and cooking
in the summer its fine we use about 19kg a month
but in the winter we use 19kg a week
trouble is the top of the bottle is freezing
well all of it is actually but don't think the bootle freezing is a problem just the top
where you turn the bottle on and off
the reg and pipe is lagged with foam wrap and thermowrap so that should be ok
i have also bought a cylinder jacket (the red one)
wrapped that round the bottle and all over the top etc
but to no avail once the temp dropped below 0c it froze again and luke warm water
cooker dims when heating comes one
so i know the gas it struggling
we can't use the shower because the waters too cold
any ideas how to stop this freezing
ppl have said wrap towels etc round it
but i have that jacket that should be batter than towels etc
the red bottles should be good down to -15c i thought
maybe they are duds lol
any ideas folks please asap
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did you read the instructions?
we've just bought a delonghi des12 from argos for £150
and its like a fridge basically thats how they work so also like a fridge you have to let it stand for a few hours before switching on
to allow the gas coolant to settle and bubbles etc
always worth reading instructions i just happened to read some reviews about mine and it said after he left it for 2 hours away it went
good job because i was just gonna plug it in
ours works a treat tho altho its a bit bulky but we do have a big boat
it only really does the room we're in doesn't seem to like doors even when left open
but it fills the tank in about 2 days 3l
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thanks Johnny
i am rather happy with the nearly finished result
just got the wheelhouse and after cabin to do now
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well i fitted the headlining last week
best advice i could of given was ' get someone else to do it'
it cost me around £50 for everything which is really cheap (birchwood 33) so quite a large boat
i had enough to do the whole boat forward cabin, wheelhouse and after cabin
1/4" thick foam and cream leatherette pvc looked lovely when i bought it
spent a day getting glue everywhere
when i say everywhere i mean everywhere
its a spray glue you use and you spray it on the ceiling and it lands on the floor, windows, cooker, units
everywhere as well as where u wanted it lol
i was covered in my hair on my hands (i roll my own ciggies and trying to roll i had more tobacco stuck to my fingers than actually in the cig)
you can imagine it
well the ceiling was ply lined first with electrics for the lights
i was hoping that the foam covered it all up and when i finished i stood back took a look and went mmmmm
i'm not a perfectionist by any means but this looked ok lol
i picked the wifey up from work and said' are you in a good mood'
as there's glue everywhere and you've a lot of cleaning to do lol
bless her she's a good girl although i had to clean it anyway because she refused
so we looked at this ceiling and she said it looks ok hun
but my opinion it looked horrid
so the next day i set to it again
rather than rip it off and wreck even more of what was there i put then new layer on top of the old
i did a test piece to make sure the foam would stick to the nice side of the pvc etc
so what i have now is ply lined
1st layer of foam
layer of pvc
layer of foam
and another layer of pvc
lol
sounds a right pickle but it looks absolutely brilliant
she came home the next day and agreed brill
even i'm happy with it
so my new advice is
put 2 layers of foam if you have any imperfections as 1 won't cover it
and the second time i had previous knowledge on how to do it
i wore a hat and disposable rubber gloves
ciggies had tobacco in them that day woo hoo
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i am in the process of restoring my boat and i made a dining area
when it came to foam for the seats i rung round all the companies in the norfolk/suffolk area and was told that no-one stocked 4" foam
how bizarre lol but they could get it in a week later
anyway i scoured good old ebay and pm'd a chap on there with my phone number
he called me back within the hour and gave me prices there and then
it was VERY reasonably priced slightly cheaper than the cheapest quote i had locally
delivery was fixed at £4.99 for each order
so i ordered my foam
next day delivery wow was good quality and cut exactly as i asked with a 2"taper for the rear seats
lovely helpful chap
so i ordered some more for the headlining and some glue
that arrived the next day still £4.99 delivery but 2 parcels so even better value
anyway this isn't my company but i do have his number if anyone needs foam etc give me a pm and i'll let you have it
steve
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Hi Mark
the WRC has free wifi once you have payed your mooring fee & they have given you the password.
Jonny
yes wifi is available here (WRC)
but its not free
you can pay for a day use or weekly or monthly or like me yearly
obviously the longer you have the cheaper it is
i'm here all year round so i have the yearly at £120 a year (i think)
the speed isn't great but its wifi so what do u expect
altho it is run though the bt phone line so with bt bringing out these new hyper speeds it may improve
hope that helps with this one anyway
steve
gas bottle freezing
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i did get that message thanks lol
we all learn the hard way sometimes
well i swapped the old reg for a new auto change over one
last night it went down to -4 and its still working ok so hopefully its all sorted now
thanks for everyone's help
steve