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26 minutes ago, YnysMon said:
We'll, you just have to use your common sense when helming a cruiser, canoeing, paddle boarding, wild swimming, hiking up mountains or whatever you chosen sport is.
We are not planning on paddle boarding anywhere busy with river traffic.
On a more positive note. We left Horning at 9'ish, had an unproductive detour up to Potter H (no BA Moorings free), a lunch stop at Stacey Arms, went through Yarmouth around 4pm and turned up the Waveney.
Guess where we are.
Common sence does not enter into the equation in any shape or form. It does not exist. How can it?
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3 hours ago, MargeandParge said:
Swimming and paddle boarding are two totally different activities
or so we are led to believe
Kindest Regards Marge and Parge
Both swimming and paddle boarding bring with them a huge amount of risk.
A risk which is not recognised or understood by the participants of each individual activity.
The skipper/helm/hirer/first time hirer/new first time owner is ill prepared with regard to this relatively new introduction on our navigable waters. I place significant emphasise on Navigable waters.
Times have changed. The boats of yesteryear have gone. their boat yards have gone. The family boat yards, have gone.
You have been left with huge boats, not Broads boats that are limited to where that can go , but posing boats. In charge of those with limited understanding, knowledge, or experience..
Backwards and forwards on the Bure, on the Yare. They cannot go any where else. They are too big. Indeed there are some who will say get rid of the bridge,,,... Potter Heigham Bridge , to accommodate them. These are not Broadland Folk, or people who have any interest or concern or indeed an understanding of our heritage.
Swim if you must. Paddle board if you wish. Indeed ;last year on Womack water a paddle boarder. A lady on the thing, what could possibly go wrong. On the front of the board a child, I guess what, two or three years old. wearing a life jacket.
Within the mix 38 ft, 40ft hire boats with skippers of limited experience attempting stern on moorings for the first time.
Sorry to disappoint. nothing happened.
Had the women and her child been subjected to an incident with both in the water, together with a hire boat, with a helm of no experience it would be a difficult recovery within a short time span.
My legacy has gone, forgotten, ignored.
I do not have much confidence in yours.
Please tell me otherwise.
Andrew
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Many of us forum members are of an age.
I love the Broads. However many factors, age is one, boat design is another. The latter needs to be addressed.
The Broads it has to be said is not very accessible for those who are land bound.
And ignored.
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Well said Regulo. We must unite against these scurrouless scaremongers
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GULP!
I hope your neighbours are aware.
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On 25/06/2023 at 18:52, jeffbroadslover said:
It seems to me that those "responsible" people who decide that it is a good idea not to trim the footpath areas and allow it to become overgrown are very clever.
"If we don't keep the path passible, people will not use it and then we can say that we will not spend our hard earned cash on something that will not be
49 minutes ago, kpnut said:I think it was what Tom from the BA posted last year on the thread ‘State of the Footpaths’. Either that if he mentioned the link and I got it off the BA website.
It was in response to me asking which paths the BA are responsible for and which the county council. The county council ones can be found on their website somewhere, again probably linked on last year’s thread aboutOn 25/06/2023 at 18:52, jeffbroadslover said: -
"Simple jobs cannot be done"
They can. Not a simple job however with sufficient manpower, and machinery, achievable. But costly.
The local councils foot the bill if they can. However, under the present financial climate Punch has finished dancing. The foliage will die back, it is the time of year.
I have no wish whatsoever to cause an argument with regard to this important and emotive discussion but throughout Broadland, concerning tolls, moorings, mooring fees, fuel, public footpaths there would seem to be a reluctants to recognise the dire financial straits which have so quickly been imposed upon us average folks.
Tha solution, I really don't know. However when walking, beating, exploring, I take my favourite stick, to whack a nettle, that vicious bramble and support me should I fall.
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I thought that Mouldy's picture's of a pathway absolutely delightful. A cascade of wild flowers, ideal for insects, birds, and other creatures.
As for overgrown public footpaths it would suggest to me that they are not or rarely used and not subject to wear and tear as one would expect in the normal course of events.
If you wish for manicured footpaths it does beg the question as to who has to pay for them or indeed wants them.
Andrew
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1 hour ago, Smoggy said:
With a steam train in GY they must have thought they'd time travelled into the future.
Absolutely right mate.
We also point at aeroplanes!
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33 minutes ago, Chelsea14Ian said:
forerunner BOV Board of visitors
IMB Independent monitoring Board.
It started in the 1800s. Visitoring Magistrates. Following concerns of
the state of prisons and prisoners.
Each Prision in England Wales and Northern Ireland has a IMB.Belmarsh is a large prison (local).So a mix of those Cat C,D B and the most serious Cat A.There was 21 of us.We were appointed by the Home Office.All volunteers. We received travel costs.All my time there nearly 15 years I lost money,but I found it interesting. We would check on a rota basis weekly the state of the prison.Take Applications from inmates,take to staff.If there was an incident we attended making a written acount of the incident,that has been used in courts in the past.Each mouth we as a group met with the Governor and each year an annual report to the Home Office.
It was perhaps one of the most interesting things I've been involved in.
Thank you Ian for your contribution.
Friends of mine have been involved in very high security prisons in the UK, mainland and other places. Close family members are prison officers, with regard to illegal immigrants, and other categories.
I have admiration for the work which you have carried out, together with the demanding contribution made by those whose dedication is so often accepted but not rewarded or even recognised.
Andrew.
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How one expects a holiday skipper or indeed a private skipper to be able to differentiate between 3mp and 4mph escapes me. What a nonsense.
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10 minutes ago, Chelsea14Ian said:
When I became Chairman of the IMB.I would be in the office at Belmarsh three or four evenings each week.It took up lots of my free time.
IMB. what does that mean? InMate Bellmarsh?
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I'm amazed at the 1998 date and that craft before that date are exempt.
How many craft does that relate too I wonder?
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12 minutes ago, Chelsea14Ian said:
All trueLoddon is a small village with at present BA 24 hour free moorings. In my opinion attact people to visit.I don't have a problem paying for showers .I don't agree with loos there changing. Looe other tourists areas which are much larger then Loddon .Which has far more choice. Loddon has a selection of shops and three / four pubs.If Reedham charges for moorings it cutsdown choice.Pubs.Many of which now charge for moorings some with Electric costing £25 per night and not reduced if you eat there.They lose money I would often spend £100 for meals and drink.Not any longer. I do think there are worrying signs for the future of yhe broads.I hope I'm wrong.
Ian, I have to agree to some extent with your post. May I challenge some of it. Over a pint would be good but not possible I'm afraid. Who cleans the toilet? A fairy? No, in some cases a local parishioner. Sadly lost in many of our local villages.
One question, which I really do not know the answer, who owns the pub? A local family anxious to supply a service to the village, to the holiday maker, or perhaps a distant company with far reaching ideals consistent with the ambitions of young executives with little or no understanding of local concern.
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23 minutes ago, grendel said:
a thought occurs to me, and I dont know the answer to this, but under GDPR where records can be kept for certain purposes, are they allowed to consult those records for say the purpose of ascertaining ownership- for a civil case, or is their access limited to use for the purposes of a criminal case- ie if you break a bylaw?
so a quick google shows
so if the explicit legitimate purposes were to ensure tolls were paid and identification should bylaws be broken, can they then use the data for the new purpose of civil prosecutions without first specifying that the data will be used in the new manner?
if anyone knows the answer to this, please enlighten us.
Perhaps you should ask the DVLA.
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On 13/06/2023 at 19:58, Meantime said:
I did point this out earlier on in the thread. I wonder what crime wave prompted the installation of 24hr CCTV, or was it installed at our expense to catch whoever moors a boat?
However, that is only part of the story, they still need to find a name and address from somewhere, or someone to identify you!
Perhaps it's a timely reminder that you only need to give your details when asked to an authorised officer who produces, if requested, written evidence of his authority- (apologies for the gender description, but I am quoting from the 2009 Broads Authority Act as passed in the Houses of Parliament)
The above would appear to exclude voluntary rangers and visitor centre staff unless they have the appropriate written evidence!
No crime wave prompted the installation of CCTV at Malthouse Broad.
The BA employee will ask for the name of your boat and the number on your boat. From that they will ascertain your name and address.
As for the BA employee, a Quay Attendant, a Quay Ranger, a Ranger, a voluntary shop assistant, a Quay shop assistant, a ranger shop assistant.
Or a Multi Tasking Quay Assistant, Shop Assistant, Boat Trip Ranger, Boat Trip Assistant, Ranger, or the ultimate position that of the BA, Bearer of The Boat Hook.
Who knows?
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I have never understood tides.
I have never known those who understand tides.
There are those who think that they understand tides.
I have never, ever, met a person who understands tides.
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One chap I read about had his Tilley eaten by an elephant. It came out the other end, he washed it and looks as good as new. True.
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Well.....I can't speak for you guys, but never over egg a pudding.
The Three Rivers is for me anyway is one of the most exciting sailing events in Norfolk. A spectacular event which can only be experienced, as a spectator from so many vantage points.
A unique event. Enjoyed with a glass of sparkling Prosecco or perhaps a glass of a vintage Blanc de Blanc.
Never, ever, over a computer screen.
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7 minutes ago, batrabill said:
Hence my original question.
The trade-off is that it would be a much better spectator event with tracking.
I cant see how it would work. It would identify where a boat was positioned on the Broads but how does the spectator factor in the handicap factor.
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40 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said:
"If everyone knew exactly where they were"
And that, sir, is the whole concept of sailing.
With regard to our holiday makers
Half of them don't know where they are, where they have come from, or indeed where they are going. Bless! 🚣♀️😃
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Everything these days seems to eminate from a knowledgeable source, as if from some inner sanctum. No names, no pack drill. Nudge, nudge, say no more.
No disrespect intended towards Vanessan whatsover but it seems that the only form of communication concerning important matters is by this means. Whispers in the night over a pint of two's.
My point is why should this be? Why the secrecy, the smoke and mirrors.
Unless of course there is a conflict of commercial interest why doesn't the BA come up front with these issues instead of faffing about and contributing to the intrigue.
It is our Norfolk Broads after all.
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I would imagine it is somewhat difficult to assist a newcomer with regard to a stern on mooring, on a wind day.
The helm could be over 40ft away unless you have the right to board an adjacent boat with or without the attendance of the owner/hirer.
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Er! What can one say.
Good or what?
I loved it, a must watch.
or so we are led to believe
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Your responce would seem to suggest that you have difficulty in understanding the difference between the car, motorists, and the disciplines that exist and are well defined in that particular environment and the issues that are present between large hire craft and inexperienced hires and private owners.
Unless of course you are able to convince me otherwise.