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Yeah that’s the one. I’m guessing they may have done some work on her.
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This is it - They did use some real wood laminates in her construction and she needs a really good refurb. That doesn't seem to be something that Pacific are kitted out for.
As an aside, when Summercraft sold their Diamond 35's a couple of years back, one had real wood veneer and had fared worse than the one with formica. They sold her for quite a bit less and actually ended up having to buy her back as I think the new owner didn't realise what they'd taken on.
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18 hours ago, Broads01 said:
It looks like both Pacific Breeze and Pacific Imperial are on their last season of hire. Both have no online availability for 2024. The traditional aft cockpit cruiser is becoming an endangered species.
It's a shame Breeze is going, the Bounty 27 is quite a good boat for two. Large shower room for the size of boat and quite a good bed too.
Pacific Imperial should have probably been retired a while ago, though. I love an AF42 but the fitout on that one is horrible. I viewed her a couple of times as a potential hire, but really did not like her.
I could have lived with the green gel coat if the interior was better, but it has not aged well at all. Really needs a Ricko's-style refit. The worst part is that some of the laminates are actually quite good quality (ie not formica) but they've suffered moisture damage to the surface and would need to be replaced. There's a reason fake wood facings are used on hire boats....
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Indeed. Even by the BA's standards that is scraping the barrel.
I bought a Sainsbury's meal deal the other day and thanks to that a man in London was able to achieve his dream of buying a Ferrari and a Private Jet. Go me!
The granary has ditched the "80's teashop" vibe and everyone is saying how much better it is. That's why it's more succesful.
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9 hours ago, PCL023 said:
When visiting them they were preparing the graphics for a Sunseeker which included a boot topper, I was surprised by this that a graphic would be used here, however they advised the vinyl they use would last much longer than any paint without fading etc and could be more easily removed without damaging the gel if ever a colour change etc.
This is such an important thing. I see so many ex hirecraft around the Broads and people decide they don't like the colour scheme so they paint it
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Of course this looks good for a few years and then it stops looking good and the boat needs painting again. And again. And often the original gel was perfectly acceptable and would have needed very minimal maintenance.
Vinyl wraps aren't cheap but they cover well, give a good finish and can simply be stripped when it comes to resale time so that the boat hasn't lost value like it would if the original gel had been painted. Many people won't buy a boat that isn't in gel because you have to factor in the repaint every 5 years or so, and repaints can be really expensive for a good job.
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On 06/06/2023 at 20:13, ZimbiIV said:
Brian Wards.
They did some complex decals for us.
You can go in and talk it through with then and get good advice.
paul
And don't forget the 10% discount when you use the code 'NBN'. Brian Wards have been a forum supporter for many years and it's a really handy perk.
But yes, they're really helpful people too.
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10 hours ago, NorfolkNog said:
I always use the Shorebase tide tables exclusively and they've never let me down yet.
http://www.norfolk-broads.org/index.htm
Highly recommended. I think they might have something to do with our old friend Strowager as if you look carefully there is an old phone dial icon in there. If it is him he was always very good on the technical side (no doubt still is).
During our recent visit to Beccles we were told we had no chance of getting through the bridge at the time we wanted. Quick check on the Shorebase table and straight through, no problem. Certainly the 'bible' for me.
It is indeed him, and yes they're very good tide times.
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I think you're looking at about £15-20K.
The 9.9hp equivalent is about three grand, though. Not going to get you on the plane and not going to power a 6 tonne boat, but for a Shetland or something like that it's a viable option given how quiet they are. And no more messing about with petrol and having to have the stuff aboard.
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22 hours ago, mikeyboy1966 said:
Can’t see a torquedo pushing a 6tonne boat very far
They do a 50KW (roughly 67hp) outboard and inboards up to 100KW (134hp).
Not cheap, but if you want silent boating and have got solar then they're not as bad as people think.
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Indeed. Unfortunately I don't think it's the first time it has been targetted.
It's a popular spot and the moorings are very good value (with a really long waiting list) but unfortunately there is not much in the way of facilities or security and it is fairly isolated.
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5 hours ago, Smoggy said:
Virgin on the other hand had got pathetically slow for hideous price, glad I escaped.
Was that on their network or Openreach's?
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Probably quite an effective scam too - It's not like they're asking for £100, so lots of people could be taken in by it. But lots of people x £3 will add up quite nicely.
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12 hours ago, RealWindmill said:
My Marina manager, whose opinion and knowledge I value a lot, says as it's not smoking and doesn't have any water in the oil then i shouldn't worry too much about the good old Perkins lump. My only remaining concern is the oil pressure remaining high. Possible sensor issue ?
@Vaughan is the best man to tell you about the MC42, but certainly if it's not losing fluids, has good compression and is generally running well then there's probably not much need to overhaul.
There is a perception that old=bad when it comes to marine diesels. The thing to remember is that they are very unlike car engines.
Sure the principles of an internal combustion engine are there, but the sort of engines which usually get fitted to Broads cruisers don't have timing belts or chains to fail. The valvegear is gear-driven, and in some engines it's still pushrod rather than overhead cam. That's how car engines used to be decades ago.
I think people have got conditioned into expecting sudden engine failure because of the absolute junk being produced by european car manufacturers over the last couple of decades in order to meet ever-tighter emissions legislation.
Now of course marine diesels can go pop if not looked after, but the newer ones are at least as likely to do so. I've heard of numerous Nannis letting go, but there are many boats on the Broads with BMC and Perkins lumps which are decades old.
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1 hour ago, RealWindmill said:
As one of the two remaining Topliner Corniche Class boats left on the Broads system here is an update on Silverwing this season. It is likely the tired old MC42 may need replacing this year. I did briefly consider going down the electric re-engining route but the weight/size/cost of the batteries made me rethink that. With a new engine I will take the opportunity to rename her to Windmill.
Don't forget that the MC42 can be rebuilt. You'll struggle to find a boatyard on the Broads that wants to do the job as swapping the unit out is much simpler, but there are some diesel specialists with the right skills to do so.
A lot of components are replaced, so it's not a bad option. You can see what an overhaul kit includes https://www.parts4engines.com/perkins-perama-mc42-engine-overhaul-kit/ and it's not insignificant.
Does a Nanni N4.50 give better throttle response? Yes it does, but the MC42 is a torquey engine and there isn't likely to be a lot in it with fuel economy either...
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4 hours ago, Vaughan said:
Shore power will normally have a second circuit of 220v plug points in the boat, for plugging in microwave and TV direct to the shore. The inverter will have its own circuit of plug points, for use when you are not on shore power. You can still use the inverter when on shore power, since the shore power is charging its battery bank.
The modern inverter / chargers fitted to more recent boats tend to blur the lines a bit here as you'd potentially only have one set of 240v sockets, with the magic blue box handling where the power is coming from (batteries or shore power).
It's great in terms of simplicity, but bad in terms of helping users understand where the power is currently coming from and the need to manage usage - If an applicance is plugged into an 'inverter' socket then there's some realisation that there's a 12v battery on the other end and capacity is finite.
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10 hours ago, JanetAnne said:
Certainly making a difference to Beccles Yacht Station. Every weekend there would be half a dozen or so of Silverline's finest spread out along the quayhead but, this season, almost nothing.
That Silverline fleet heading north is maybe more noticeable because they were so distinctive but their absence on the southern rivers is most definately being felt.
Most definitely. And it's just a real shame that the options for hiring on the South are now pretty much just Pacific or NYA.
Nothing wrong with either of those yards, of course, but Silverline were slightly more mainstream and a sort of middle ground between the two.
There's Broom I suppose, but...... meh.
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19 hours ago, MauriceMynah said:
I'm missing something here. Less than £270 per day seems pretty cheap to me for what you get.
It's at the upper end for dayboats from Wroxham, but you do get a decent boat by the looks of it.
I hired a traditional dayboat from Ricko's a few weeks back and it was £130 for most of the day. I wouldn't have paid double that really given that it was just my dad and I aboard, but if there was a group of perhaps 8 then it's not so bad.
It's not a bad looking boat actually, kind of a larger take on the Loynes launch. I guess that's not surprising. Not sure what it looks like in three-quarter view (which is how you're supposed to photograph boats really) so fingers crossed.
I do wish the guy who did the antifouling and the guy who did the lower rubbing strake had communicated, though. It looks a bit awkward, currently.
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2 hours ago, YnysMon said:
Currently moored at Potter H. We think MS's water line badly needs a scrub and Graham thinks the deck brush on board isn't up to it...too soft. He's gone off to Latham's in search of a brush.
I've heard a number of chemicals suggested as being ideal for that purpose. The environmentalists won't be happy if I list them here, though.
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On 07/05/2023 at 19:56, LizG said:
Does the similarity of new names mean the same owners?
I should think it will mean confusion, though....
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8 hours ago, ExSurveyor said:
That is a bit of a suprise, they have only recently invested in a number of very nice new day boats.
Indeed. Lovely boats they run, though they are a bit pricey compared to a traditional Broads launch and not as hard-wearing I suspect.
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15 minutes ago, BroadAmbition said:
Am I missing something here?
I thought the whole idea of this alert was a test, that is to find out how the system performs, they need to know where it failed and why
As a result of the test they will no doubt make some tweaks and alterations then probably down the river carry out another test until they are happy with it. After that it will sit live hopefully never having to be used
Griff
This won't be the first test.
They'll have done integration testing with the networks and then done tests with a specific group of users (ie internal people) to have a decent level of confidence in the technology.
You don't just do a full broadcast to everyone without being fairly sure it's going to work. That would be a massive PR own goal for all concerned.
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1 hour ago, Meantime said:
It is very easy to knock the Herculean effort involved when you know nothing about the technology behind it.
Indeed. Fairly predictable that Three would be the one that failed, though.....
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Ah, you upgraded....
I've been eyeing the Mini 3 Pro too. There's quite a few useful differences from the standard model and for the price (even with the DJI RC) it really is impressive.
I haven't owned a drone for a while now and the features, price and size (particularly compared with my old Mavic Pro) are really impressive.
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The classic AF centre cockpit boats do have quite a high sheerline so they probably are that little bit taller given that the superstructure is not as sleek as some.
7'2" sounds about right from last time I hired one from the Stalham emporium.
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It's known as either Surlingham Broad or Bargate, although technically I think Surlingham broad refers to the whole area that Bargate is part of.
Lovely spot and so handy from Brundall. I do miss the southern rivers