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  1. Or put it down to a Parsons or TMP gearbox. I quite agree with you. So did I . Best we don't talk about that, of course . . . .
  2. I thought you said that you had only been a member here since 2018? Sorry, silly question . . . All the same, this photo is a long way out of date, in terms of present day safety precautions, which, I think, was the object of this thread.
  3. I have been looking again at this and there is something missing, isn't there? There are no channel marker posts and the casualty is on the inside of the bend, where the water is always more shallow, on an alluvial river. The bottom around there shelves very steeply in hard mud, so you only need to make a mistake of about 10 feet in your course, and you have had it! So the boat has grounded its keel on an angled bottom, which has allowed it to "fall over the edge" when the tide went down, until water came in through vents in the topsides (see Andy's post) and that was the end of it.
  4. It is very confusing! I have spent many sleepless nights over it. The French have 4 categories of waterway, of which hire boats are only allowed on the 4th category. There is also a big difference between "homologation" which is type approval ; and "immatriculation" which is registration to navigate. So a boat may well be "homologué" but that does not mean it is "immatriculé"! This is also why you never see the Albion with more than 12 passengers. If not she would need handrails all round and life rafts all over the hatch covers. Perish the thought!
  5. I can't remember either to be honest! Not without Googling it but they basically concern the wave height that a vessel can cope with, and the distance offshore that they are allowed "from shelter".
  6. That may well be true but I was, of course, talking of boats built by a boatyard, for sale as either private or hire. It may be worth mentioning that there is no specific regulation for the building of inland waterways boats, as far as I know. The BSS is probably the closest that we come to it but even that is a safety standard rather than a building standard. In Europe on inland waterways, all boats have to be ERCD cat. D, which is the minimum offshore standard. Commercial boatyards will normally build boats to Cat.C as this lets them sell their designs as offshore as well as inlan
  7. And how many like that, have there been since? Compared to the hundreds of thousands, even millions, who have since cruised that waterway in peace and tranquility?
  8. And what do you do, once they are moored there in Pye's Mill? Give them a parking ticket maybe.
  9. This is the Geest Line's beautiful old ship "Geestbay", a refrigerated banana boat which traded in the British islands of the Caribbean. To get round the Board of Trade regulation, she only carried 12 paying passengers. As this accommodation had been designed for directors of the Geest Line, it was somewhat spacious and luxurious! She used to moor in the Pool of London, more or less where HMS Belfast now moors. So I have been under Tower Bridge, in her.
  10. I must say that my time on British Gas platforms in the North Sea was the safest environment that I have ever worked in.
  11. We're talking about why the limits are in place. You can't have hire boats that don't fit the system otherwise there'll be problems. I think Fred was replying to posts about training.
  12. Any boat built after 1996, private or hire, must be built to ERCD and is certified for a number of persons. It must also have a plaque in the wheelhouse to show this. The limit of 12 (plus a skipper) comes from the Board of Trade regulation, where anything above that becomes a passenger ship, which requires all sorts of equipment such as life rafts or lifeboats; safety railings and must also carry a doctor on board.
  13. Funny that the big Broom boats have a beam of 4.2. metres, but they don't seem to be able to go anywhere interesting on the tributaries of the Yare? Mind you they do, as I have often seen them . . . .
  14. The length limit on hire boats in Europe is 15 metres - about 45ft. Beyond that, it becomes a hotel barge, which needs a different licence and a skipper.
  15. When the reputation and professionalism of traditional Broads businesses is repeatedly impugned, on a Broads forum, then explanations must be given to refute the suggestions and allegations. Even if the person making them, doesn't seem to listen to the answers. You may call that going round in circles but it has come to feel like deliberate trolling.
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