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  1. Vaughan

    Where Might?

    So a "Trompe l'oeil" in French? Windows painted to look like windows. Maybe the old "Fairmile" shed at Herbert Woods boatyard.
  2. Vaughan

    Where Might?

    Cantley sugar beet factory?
  3. I thought it might be worth explaining what I mean by holiday destination. In the tourist business, if you are marketing package vacations to a hotel balcony overlooking a Mediterranean beach, then that is fine. That is the destination. Up to the "punters" to make their own fun from there. Marketing cruising, or touring, or even cycling holidays is very different. In that case, it is not where you start from that counts - it is the cruise destination. So it is fine to start your Broads holiday from a little boatyard with a tin shed up a dyke in Brundall, because the site was chosen as it is right beside the main line railway station. What matters to you is that this start point gives you a wonderful cruise around the rivers Yare and Waveney for your weeks holiday. So the cruise is the destination. The start point is just where you picked the boat up from, and parked your car. Do you feel that I am starting to describe Acle? I have started up a few boatyard bases from scratch in France as well as in the U.S. and the success was always because the cruising area could offer the places to visit. Where you started from was just logistics. It needed to be accessible by road, rail and air. It needed to be in a town, with a bank, shops, a pub, a restaurant, a hotel and a doctor. And sometimes, a vet! It also had to have the facilities to maintain the boats. But it was not the holiday destination. With this in mind I can't see any marketing reason why the BA should feel the need for a visitor centre in Acle when so many others around the Broads have already closed? I hope they don't intend to start hiring electric day boats, or canoes, right under the bridge, with all that rise and fall of tide, and all that current? Do they?
  4. Vaughan

    Ant Warning!!!

    "Left hand down a bit". LEFT HAND DOWN A BIT IT IS SIR!
  5. I have been reading over the last 24 hours of this discussion, and two things stand out for me : 1/. I have heard "along the rhond" that there were strong objections from the local highways authority to what we might call the "Pedros" development, mostly due to the danger posed by Acle bridge, on a trunk road. If this is true, then the BA as planning authority must have ignored those objections when granting permission. So one assumes they may do the same thing now? 2/. What is a visitor centre? Marshman has mentioned the one at the NWT reserve, but that is the destination for the tourists. They are going there deliberately to visit the reserve, and have the facility of the visitor centre, while they are there. Acle bridge is not a holiday destination. So if they are now going to create some place where coach parties can stop for a nice "cuppa", something to eat, have a pee and look at the river, then surely the BA are just using the toll budget to subsidise some kind of "transport caff". This is sounding more like Wroxham Barns, than a visitor centre!
  6. Vaughan

    Now And Then

    Thank you Wyndham, and others, for your kind comments. A bit of historical reference is always good. It often puts things in proportion. As to writing a book, maybe I have already written most of it, in the pages of this forum? It is a very valuable resource, especially in the historical and technical areas. It is always here, for members old and new to dip into, and find what they are looking for. I sometimes spend hours, just reading back on information and history, from long before I joined. This, of course, is something Facebook cannot do for us, as that is a transient medium but this is a lasting archive. When the time comes (as it must) to adopt a new constitution, we must ensure that we assist our team to give this resource a secure and solid grounding, so that it is always there for us. This not a political message - just a sentiment from me!
  7. Vaughan

    Now And Then

    Afraid I won't be back till late October, as Susie and I have decided to take a boat on the Thames this autumn, with our good friends from Kris Cruisers in Datchet. I will take plenty of photos! It is a good idea though. Set a bit of history straight. Meantime if you want to see a really good film about it, look up "The Wind In The Reeds" in the East Anglian Film Archive, or on Youtube. It talks about exactly the same problems and was made in response to a bad press at that time (1960 I think) . It presents a rather different face on things as it was commissioned by Blakes and made by Philip Wayre and Ted Ellis. This one, tells the truth as I remember it. Perhaps someone could link it here, as I don't know how to?
  8. Vaughan

    Now And Then

    In which case, that's fine! It's all 40 years ago, after all. I just wanted members to be aware of the TRUTH behind what they see on the screen. Dr Packman may not even know the truth. But he is certainly trying to exploit it for his own ends and I object to that.
  9. Vaughan

    Now And Then

    Because the film was banned by the owner of Anglia TV and all copies were destroyed. This one must have survived, and has now been leapt upon by Dr Packman.
  10. Vaughan

    Now And Then

    Susie and I saw that, on Anglia TV last night. Dr Packman, sitting there in a half decker, complacently telling us how much better the Broads are now, and all the problems that have been solved by him , since the bad old days of the 70s and all based on an Anglia exhumation of a film called "No Lullaby For Broadland". I have always tried not to be personal about Dr Packman when talking about the BA but this is a dirty trick. A punch below the belt and I now lose all respect for him. Are you sitting comfortably? I will tell you a story. . . . . Television journalism can be biased in whatever way they want you to see things. In the late 70s there were problems on the Broads - no doubt of that - but the gutter press had jumped on it and blamed it all on the hire boats and the holidaymakers. In other words, biting the hand that feeds you. This was all brought to a head when Anglia TV produced this film. It was adopted by Friends of The Earth (FOE) who championed it as their cause for the "natural beauty" of the Broads. It all came to a head at a public meeting held in Norwich Guildhall in 1980, chaired by someone awfully senior - it may have been the Lord Lieutenant - to discuss the problems of pollution, as well as the bad press which was killing the tourist industry upon which the Broads depended. Standley Bushell attended on behalf of the River Commissioners and I attended as a director of Blakes. Standley and I, in public meeting, succeeded in convincing Andrew Lees of the FOE that they must dis-associate themselves from this film as it was a gross and disgraceful misrepresentation of the truth. We also persuaded him that we were actually on the same side as he was! Lord Buxton, the then owner of Anglia TV, heard about this two days later, watched the film and ordered all copies to be returned at once to Anglia House and destroyed. If you Google it now, you won't find it. But you will find the press cuttings which decried it and vilified it at the time. What was wrong with it? It simply used camera tricks to portray what the film company wanted you to see. Easy to show rubbish strewn on the bank - just get the film crew to throw it there and then film it, in several different locations. Yes, they were seen doing it. Likewise dead fish, floating belly up in the "polluted" water. Just buy some fish from the local eel fisherman that morning, place the same fish in several different locations in the reeds and then film them. How do I know this? Norman Webb, the eel fisherman from Horning, was a friend of mine. he told me about it. Even David Court, the MD of Blakes, complained on TV that he had seen the same dead bird filmed eight times, in different places. The shot of a lot of "rubbish" dumped all over a "river" bank was back-filling for the new quay heading being built in Porter and Haylett's new basin in Wroxham. The film crew must have been trespassing on private land to get that shot, as Porter and Haylett never gave them permission. And what about all the shots of the overcrowding of boats? It may occur to you that these are all long range telephoto shots taken down a long straight river. But do they represent the Broads as they really were? It's easy, isn't it? If you want to show a seriously overcrowded river, just go down the other end of Horning reach with a long range telephoto camera, and film the mixed one-design start of the Three Rivers Race! Sure enough, you will film an overcrowded river. But is it a true and faithful depiction of the Broads as they were? Of course not! Also very easy to show bank erosion caused by excessive wash. Just make the excessive wash with your own camera boat! The point is, that this disgusting and in-excusable "investigative journalism" brought about a drastic recession in the Broads tourist industry, from which it has never even half recovered. Yes, there were other factors, such as dear old Freddie Laker and the "global economy" but for Dr Packman to now grasp this wonderful opportunity to profit from an obvious "leak" by Anglia TV after 40 years, is a cheap trick. So what has really changed? Water quality, is the big one. But this would have been improved anyway, by measures already in place. It had already been proved that boats were not the problem, as pumpout toilets had been put in place (by the boatyards) about 8 years before this film was made. The problem was farm fertilisers and local domestic sewage works. As the water quality improved, so the reed fringe grew back and protected the banks from wash erosion. But none of this was anything to do with the BA! It all happened years before they were created and even today, it is not within their remit. So they cannot glibly congratulate themselves for it. What else has changed for the good? Not a lot really. You can't get under Potter Heigham, or Wroxham, bridges any more, in boats that were designed to do so. The north rivers are just as crowded as I remember them but with less moorings and no more boatyards (discouraged by early BA policy) so no services, very few pumpouts or rubbish bins, very little mechanical repair service - you name it! As I see it, for Dr Packman to sit there in his sailing boat and try to tell us how marvellous it all now is, in this fairyland that he has created for us, based on a film previously banned as being a gross journalistic lie, is astounding arrogance.
  11. Vaughan

    Old Broads Boats

    One should remember that a lot of the classic HW hire boats were built before the War and many, such as the big King of Light class, were built to Admiralty specifications, even after the war. One can also see by old brochures that a very large number of hire boats (maybe half) in the 40s and 50s had varnished hulls, which were later painted white. Including Herbert Woods. You can only "carry off" a varnished hull by using high quality hardwood such as mahogany, teak and oak. There was a shortage of good wood after the war, but many yards already had stock laid down for future building. It has to be seasoned, after all! It was also perfectly all right to build boats out of high quality deal, as Peter describes above. Deal is a pine wood which has been grown in managed plantations where the little branches that grow out of the sides of the trunk are lopped off as soon as they appear, so you get a long straight trunk with no knot holes. The quality depends on where you buy it, but the best was always "Archangel Red" deal from Russia. This was reckoned to last as long as teak, but not exported any more, since the War! From what I have seen, I think the way a boat was built, and the skill that went into it, is more important than the wood that was used. By the way, a hire boat would never have been built with a view to just 10 years use, as you would never get the return back on your capital in that time, especially when building a wooden one!
  12. Vaughan

    Broad Ambition - Underway on the H2O

    Music can sometimes add a lot to an occasion. When I was truck driving, and had to take a 40 ton arctic round the Peripherique in Paris, I used to get myself into the second lane (of 4), put "the ride of the valkyries" at full volume on the stereo, establish myself at a steady 70KPH and let all the mad French treat me as a mobile roundabout. Just hum the tune to yourself, and imagine it!
  13. Vaughan

    Broad Ambition - Underway on the H2O

    Great choice of music. "The good, the bad and the ugly"!
  14. Vaughan

    Anyone For Yoga?

    I like your post but I would like to develop your argument a bit further, if I may? Before the BA, the River Commissioners were the river authority. What happened in the land around the rivers was down to the local councils - parish, borough, rural and county. This sounds top heavy but in fact it worked very well in practice, especially as the commissioners always knew that the whole lowland area depended on the rivers, not just for navigation, but for maintaining the balance of the whole eco-system, which is almost all reclaimed land. The BA was created as an area authority as this should be a better way of doing it - In theory. Their area of responsibility is exactly the same as that laid down by the original Broads Study and Plan, and by the Broads Joint Advisory Planning Committee, in the 1960s. As a lowland area, its boundaries are still the same as those which were believed to have formed the "Great Estuary" in Roman times. Sorry Timbo, but that at least, is a fact! So we now have an authority, responsible for all this area, and for whom navigation is only one of its four corner stones. This should be a very good way of doing it but what do we see in practice? Other factions such as NSPB and NWT seem to be calling a very loud tune and we also have the EA - whatever that is. Wasn't that English Nature a while ago, or am I still thinking of the CPRE? They all change titles so fast. Does the authority maintain its position among all this, or does it just bow to them in preference to the overall vision of something more "national"? I could cite several mistakes that the BA has made which have seriously affected the evolution of the Broads as we know them now but I won't bore you with them here - they are all around you! They have made almost all of these mistakes by not listening to the opinion of the local people who are concerned by their decisions. Now, they seem to be making the same mistakes. This scheme for a visitor centre, in a place that no-one visits except passing through, by road or by water, is ill conceived and it is quite clear that no private company or home owner would ever get planning permission for it, according to their own planning guidelines. So are the affairs of the Norfolk and Suffolk Broads safe in their un-elected hands? Their track record to date, does not convince me. Excuse me for rambling on a bit but for other reasons, this may be the last chance I get to make a contribution on here, for a while at least.
  15. Vaughan

    Anyone For Yoga?

    And my father always told me never to drink anything you can't see through. This has held me in good stead all my life!
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