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  1. That's what it often boils down to and not just where dogs are concerned!
  2. I thought the best way to describe this was with a drawing, but didn't realise how difficult it was to draw! Hope this makes sense : Fig.(1) shows the Bounty system of joining the two moulds. For clarity (don't laugh) I have left out the deck beams, toe-rail inserts and other things involved in the actual build. Bounty were building single level bath tubs and so this was a way of simply joining the deck and superstructure a bit like putting a lid on a saucepan. I know one of their original designers and so I know this was also a way of being able to fit out the interior into the hull first, and putting on the superstructure afterwards. This was supposed to be cheaper and easier in mass production but I am not sure that it was, in practice. The disadvantages can (I hope) be seen in the drawing : 1/.The bulbous lip sticking out of the side of the boat is weak and very vulnerable to damage, especially on a hire boat. Once this has been broken off, the plastic pipe has nothing left to grip on to. 2/. The profile shape shows that there is effectively a rain gutter all along the side of the boat under the toe rails, which is always full of water, unless someone thinks about drain holes. If there is damage, then the water can run straight into the boat, down the inside linings and all over the mattresses. Fig (2) shows the more normal method, where the deck mould overlaps the hull on the outside. There is sometimes a sandwich between the two, especially around the flare of the bow. The bolts which secure the two moulds together are also used to secure the rubbing strakes and the strakes themselves add a great deal of strength to the join. It can also be seen that even after minor damage, it is unlikely that rain water can get into the boat. Panelling on the inside in the cabins is removable, to give access to the fixing bolts, for damage repairs. As you are in France, you will find that any of the LeBoat hire bases will be able to help you as they have several types of boat built in this way. Locaboat (a French company) also use exactly the same system on some of their boats.
  3. Seriously though, this is not a job for the faint - hearted and is probably the job I like least, in boat maintenance. You are much better to have it done by a boatyard as they are equipped. They also have the "spreading tool", which are all hand made affairs. Only short repairs can be attempted with the boat on the water and it is best on the hard outside as there is usually not enough room beside the boat, when it is in a shed. Someone has recently had the bright idea of steaming it first, like a plank, but that is great if you happen to have a steam chest! The other problem is that this rubber also hides the flange joint between the hull and deck mouldings. When the rubber gets damaged, the flange often gets broken off inside, so there is nothing left for the rubber to bend onto. This is a very awkward repair to do in GRP and is also best done by a boatyard. I have seen Simpsons in Stalham doing it recently. They are very good at it.
  4. It needs 5 men, standing on a length of staging beside the boat, which has been hauled out of the water. One man to hold the end up, one man to hit it hard with a large wooden mallet and a third man further along its length to hold it up in line. The other two men are for standing there and yelling at it!
  5. Well spotted! I wondered who would make that connection! This was, indeed, how almost all of the broads were originally created. The difference, as I see it, is not just the time span (of several hundred years) but the manner in which it was done. I have posted this article before on the forum but perhaps I should do it again and you can judge for yourselves. It may also confirm some of what JM is suggesting.
  6. Sorry MM but since you quoted me when making that post, I don't see that your example has anything to do with a planning decision.
  7. Am I not right in thinking that this area forms part of a BA declared conservation area, which includes (for some reason) Thorpe Island? I would think that NO development would be allowed in what is left of this piece of rural Broads river valley. The BA planning department are delighted to refuse development in other places. Let's see them apply that same principle here. That is, if they wish to be thought of as in any way, consistent?
  8. Just what I was thinking myself! They might not find the BA as amenable now as they were 30 years ago when they allowed un-opposed, the total desecration of a beautiful area of Broads river valley for the naked, commercial exploitation of its natural mineral resources. Oh but it's all right though, because when it's finished, all will be forgiven as we're going to call it a "new broad". I grew up in that very part of the river valley. I remember how beautiful it was, before financial gain and political influence literally dug it up.
  9. Mind you don't fall in on the way back to the boats - "Once more into the Broad, dear friends, once more"!
  10. I suggest that the BA of today may not know the truth of the BA of 30 years ago when planning permission was put through for the exploitation of over 100 acres of beautiful wetland and grazing meadow for the open cast mining of sand and gravel. This was all dressed up for the public with the benevolent gesture by the landowner (also the owner of Eastern Counties Newspapers) of "donating" the resulting (and otherwise useless) pits to the BA for use as a new broad, and a bird reserve. My hypothesis would be that the "donation" may have been a lease deal which has now run its course, after 25 years and the landowners have now found themselves legally able to retake the land and thus also take their own profit from it, as a now existing public attraction. I am not necessarily saying I dis-approve of this chain of events but as JM rightly says, there is a need for transparency. After all, the BA have spent 25 years of work and investment to make the pits into what they are today. So are they simply to give it all up now, and let others take the profits?
  11. I see this from both sides - reader and newspaper - as I live a long way away and reading the papers keeps me in touch. As does this forum! If I buy a UK paper it will be a day out of date and cost around €3, even though it is printed in Marseille. The Sunday Times costs €5 for a shortened version with no colour supplement or magazines, also printed in France. So the answer is, I read the papers on line! I accept that I am reading them totally free, and so they have to make their money from the advertising or they wouldn't bother to run the website. There is no doubt though, that such intrusive advertising as they employ, is a blasted nuisance! By the way, don't ever run any of their video clips. They contain all sorts of viruses, which I had to have cleaned out by a professional.
  12. Why the late departure? Nothing to do with the night before, I trust? I have tasted your bread before. Worth waiting for!
  13. I totally agree. I think there is a big change in the balance of nature on the Broads compared to the post - War years, when I was growing up on the rivers. I am a veteran of the coypu campaign, so I believe we must consider very carefully before introducing (and then protecting) animals which have no natural enemies here. And what about those lovely little Peregrine Falcon chicks that we can all watch growing up on live TV on Norwich Cathedral? What do we suppose they are feeding off? Costa muffins on Gentleman's Walk?
  14. Something has just occurred to me! It should have done earlier. . . . Reading back on a recent post by Jenny Morgan on another thread, I am reminded that the Yare all the way up to Norwich used to be dredged to a minimum 12ft at MLWS, for the passage of the loaded coasters up to the port of Norwich. It is now no-where near this depth and has not been for several years. Could it be that this change in depth means that less of the flood tide can now flow up the Yare and so proportionately more has to flow up the Bure, where it has raised the levels in the upper reaches?
  15. I well remember an article in the Cruiser magazine a few years ago by Katie Warwick. I think she was reporting on Oulton Week, when Storm had got knocked down in a gust and capsized. Her crew all swam round the back, stood on the keel and righted her, dinghy fashion. A bit of baling on the downwind leg, and she continued the race! Kate finished her article by saying : "Of course, a real boat would have sunk at this point!"
  16. EC regulations state that the bottom drain hole has to be a certain distance down from the valve on the bottle but does not have to be actually on the bottom of the gas locker. This is for the very reason, that the bottom of the bin may be below the waterline. I seem to remember that it can be a third of the way up the side of the gas bottle height, but can't be sure on that. It is contained in EN ISO 10239 part 2 of 2002, if you want to look it up.
  17. Ah, but is she a River Cruiser? There was a big debate about that in the 70s and the design was refused, the first time it was presented.
  18. And what's more, they profit greatly from mooring on their land.
  19. Such rules have existed ever since before the War. But all rules, unfortunately, are subject to interpretation!
  20. Unfortunately they have been many times before. The old A class yachts from between the wars, of which Maidie is the last survivor, were racing machines. So was Ladybird, a radical design in 1938. The "big rig" began to be introduced into the class in the mid 70's, at about the same time as GRP and carbon fibre were allowed as building and rigging materials. Since then it has been a bit of a free for all. I am very much a traditionalist when it comes to River Cruisers but I can understand that the introduction of new designs has definitely kept the class alive and healthy, where it otherwise may have faded away, as the old wooden boats got older. This does seem though, to be a step into utter impracticality. I am still a member of the RCC but have not seen anything about this design in any publication. Maybe it will feature in their next magazine?
  21. I suggest you ask Peter Jeckells in Wroxham, who has just made a couple of Hearts Cruisers pennants for me. He still has the patterns for the old boatyard flags. Trouble is, I have a feeling that Bounty were one of the yards that didn't actually fly a flag on their boats, so Peter may not have a pattern for it. Your photo is obviously taken from a Hoseasons brochure, so I am afraid I have nothing better than that.
  22. A most reasonable approach.
  23. Luckily (in this case) they didn't use power tools in the early fifties! Keels, mainframes and stem posts were "dressed out" with an adze and most planing was done by hand. Prop shafts were cut through the keel with a hand auger. In the machine shop were a big band saw, about 9ft high, a circular saw and a planer. Much later, we had a thicknesser. All these were mounted on concrete plinths about a foot off the floor, to keep the flood water out of the motors. Almost all other jobs were done with hand tools, although we did have a huge electric drill with handles, that needed two men to hold it and was called a "gut buster", for jobs like keel bolts.
  24. I feared someone might say that! I have mentioned before on other threads that I have always thought the upper reaches of the Yare were the exception that proves the rule, when it comes to flood alleviation. Mind you, this may not be true. It is only based on my memories as a boy. Maybe the river is actually higher now, than it was. It certainly seems to get lower, according to Islander's recent photos. What does he think, I wonder?
  25. Boatyards on the Yare had to take all sorts of precautions against the spring tides, which I think must have been a lot higher in those days. I remember when the men at Hearts used to keep two cats in the sheds, and each was given its own box to sleep in, around the "potbelly" stove in the machine shop. These were old tea chests, filled with suitable bedding and lined with polystyrene dinghy buoyancy, so that they would float when the spring tides came up in the sheds! On winter weekends and Christmas holidays, it was my job to go up and feed the cats in the morning. If the water was up, this meant going from the gun-boat by dinghy to the sheds and then going in with waders on, where I would find the cats contentedly asleep in their boxes. I would have to moor them up to the work-bench, so that they could have their breakfast! I wonder what modern-day Health and Safety would have to say about boatbuilders, spending their working day standing in waders in 2 ft of water, planking the topsides of a boat?
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