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12 minutes ago, Smoggy said:
I'd say 10 volts is not flat it's deceased, sounds way too low to me.
It's complicated. When you draw current from a battery the voltage drops, then when you remove the load it should bounce back. A battery measuring 10V under a heavy load is not dead if it bounces back up to somewhere above 12V when the load is removed. If it stays at 10V when the load is removed it is dead. The low voltage alarm for an invertor is assuming a heavy load.
If your battery is measuring 12.6V and you turn on a 10 watt light it should still measure 12.6V. However turn on your immersion connected to an invertor and I would expect it to drop immediately to somewhere between 11V and 12V. Turn off the load and your battery should recover to 12.6V if the load was very brief. If the load was for about 10 mins then you would expect the battery to recover to somewhere around 12.4V to 12.5V indicating that the battery is no longer fully charged, but still has some capacity.
The terminal voltage after all load has been removed and the battery has had time to recover will give you a more accurate state of charge, but agree any battery that stays at 10V with no load and having had time to recover, probably has a dead cell.
Low voltage alarms on invertors are to stop you completely flattening the battery, however they will let you go below the recommended 50% depth of discharge which will not kill the battery, but will shorten its life.
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23 minutes ago, AndyTBoater said:
Not much of an "emergency" if it going to take 9 days to start the works is it?
Just saying
This is Norfolk! I would say 9 days is pretty good.
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You also need to consider depth of discharge and rate of discharge. Not having enough batteries in the bank will cause both to significantly increase and shorten battery life.
Most leisure batteries are sold quoting ah, but what does that really mean? If you take the example of a typical 130ah leisure battery sold on eBay it has three ratings, C5 80ah, C20 100ah and C100 130ah. These are the maximum ah it will supply at differing discharge rates.
The C100 which is often the quoted headline capacity means it will supply 130 amps over 100 hours, or 1.3 amp per hour. The best way to get the maximum from a battery is a slow discharge. The C20 means it will give a maximum 100 amps over 20 hours, so a faster discharge rate has reduced the overall amount of current you can draw. Once you get to the C5 rate it will only give you 80 amps drawn over 5 hours. I would suggest that for your average invertor usage you are exceeding the C5 rate and therefore will get even less ah.
Then the real killer is that you should never discharge your battery below 50% depth of discharge. So, you can halve all of the above figures if you don't want to kill your battery early.
Finally, you need to factor in that unless you have an advanced alternator regulator or a battery to battery charger you are probably only getting the batteries 100% when on shore power and battery charger. Once away from shore power and just relying on the standard alternator for charging you are probably only charging to about 90% capacity. That means that for a heavy load you have about 40% or less of your C5 rate to play with. For the 130ah leisure battery above that means about 32 amps if you don't want to damage or shorten the life of your battery. So, what does 32amps get you? Well at 12V about 400 watts for an hour. Run a 1.25kw element in a calorifier and you'll get about 18 mins run time on one battery without killing it. The invertor low voltage alarm will let you discharge a lot further than that, but you will be shortening the life of your battery. Add a second battery and you will half the discharge rate and double the runtime.
You need to start by looking at your anticipated load, work out what you are trying to run and how many watts it will take, then work that back into amp hours and then work out how many batteries you need. It will be a lot more than you were hoping for in most cases.
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50 minutes ago, Andrewcook said:
Who is now got that yard?
Presumably the highest bidder!
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On 25/10/2022 at 10:34, Smoggy said:
I do wonder if anyone selling food products can legally refuse cash, it is the legal currency of the UK, everything else is just an iou based on it.
Anybody selling anything can refuse to accept cash if they wish. It is their choice.
Part of the confusion comes from the term "legal tender" If something is "legal tender" then it cannot be refused as payment for a court awarded debt.
So when is "legal tender" not "legal tender"? One and two pence coins are only legal tender to settle a debt up to 20p, to settle a debt over 20p they are not!!
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I seem to remember a lot of very similar comments about another establishment when it reopened. Noisy soul ripped out of the place, too clinical etc etc etc. It now regularly wins awards and is a firm favourite with many. The White Horse at Neatishead had so many similar comments when it reopened.
Give them time to get established, to iron out any teething problems and most of all give them time to finish it off and get the restaurant side up and running.
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Wetherspoons and Greene King have had an app for years now so that you don't have to go to the bar, doesn't mean you can't if you really want to. It's just extra choice.
Why do people have to look for all the negatives before they've even stepped foot in the place?
Personally, I thought all the old tat hanging off the ceiling in the old Yare was a fire risk.
I think I'll decide once I've tried it!
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The section I've highlighted in red is now a cycle / footpath. Quite an interesting map as it also shows the line that used to run from Aldeby through Haddiscoe and onto Yarmouth through The Waveney Forest.
I've also just read that during the second world war explosives were placed under the railway bridge at Potter Heigham ready to be detonated to blow the bridge up should there be an invasion. They were never removed and were discovered again in the 60's when workman with oxy acetylene torches were cutting up and dismantling the old bridge. Apparently, they moved pretty sharpish when they realised!!
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It is a shame that not more have been saved or opened up. There is a cycle and footpath that runs from a public footpath in Normanston Lowestoft, diagonally towards the seafront. It ends at Station Road which I guess is the giveaway that it was an old railway line originally. It probably branched off towards Gorleston.
There is another good footpath that links East Ruston with Stalham, it forms part of The Weavers Way. It comes out at Stalham High Street, the end where the old hotel used to be. I'd read somewhere that a lot of the A149 follows the route of the old railway, and when you look at the map it becomes obvious that as the A149 bears inland after Stalham, the railway would have carried on along The Weavers Way. I believe the footpath between East Ruston and Stalham whilst forming part of The Weavers Way is still privately owned and is a permissive footpath. At section along the path there are still some of the old railway gates.
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Watch it! You'll put Vaughan off his lunch.
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21 minutes ago, kpnut said:
Yet more places to explore, following your superb write-ups. Many thanks.
The good thing about The Waveney Forest is it can easily be explored from the boat by mooring at The BA public mooring at St Olaves. If you walk away from St Olaves you soon reach a dyke where you head inland before turning left and skirting around the edge of the forest. Eventually the public footpath peters out to a dead end, officially, but there are many unofficial footpaths to explore from that point that take you through the forest.
You could do a circular walk through the forest, out to New Road, turn right along New Road and then right at the end back towards The Bell Inn before returning behind the bungalows to the mooring.
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14 minutes ago, OldBerkshireBoy said:
The Thin White Duke did refer to The Norfolk Broads but wasnt it under the aka of Ziggy Stardust.
I guess. It was released as a single during his Ziggy Stardust era, but the origins of the song date back to 1968. He was asked to write a song for Claude Francois and after the lyrics were rejected Paul Anka rewrote it into Frank Sinatra's My Way. Bowie annoyed at the success of My Way, used it a s a template and wrote Life on Mars as a parody of My Way.
The Thin White Duke era was more like 1975 onwards.
Now there's thread drift!
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I only really discovered the forest as a place to walk about a year ago, despite coming to the Broads for over 20 years. I tend to use the Ordnance Survey app to scope out places to walk and then use Google maps street view to scope out possible parking places close to my planned walk, which is how I found the parking down New Road.
Doing some Googling recently I found there is quite a military history to Waveney Forest. Bell Hill near to Staithe Belt used to be a military battery. Some interesting place names around there. Skeleton Wood, Tinks Wood. Foxburrow Hang.
The path of the old dismantled railway through the forest is quite easy to follow, just a shame you cannot follow it all the way to Belton. I took the public footpath from Sandy Lane which runs down towards a dead end on the marsh. On the left is part of the golf course and on the right is a holiday park. As you get to the point where the path of the old railway line crosses the footpath there is locked gates in the golf course fence and the holiday park fence. I did wonder if some ancient right of way was being blocked, otherwise why have two gates in two different private properties right where the line would have crossed?
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7 minutes ago, Smoggy said:
always fun on the way back to st.olaves moorings after a night in the decoy tavern,
I never managed to get into The Decoy Tavern when it was open. Sadly it is now surrounded by Heras fencing and I believe is to be demolished and turned into five new homes!
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I walked along the public moorings and then behind Burgh Castle Marina and Goodchilds eventually ending up at The Fishermans inn. A stroll down the side and along the river's edge that leads past Burgh Castle until I reached the top end of Breydon Water. I still have fond memories of many nights spent in the now sadly closed Berney Arms pub.
I then turned away from the river and headed back inland past what I think used to be a pub? Church Farm? Bever got there when it was open, but believe it was once owned by The Richardson family? I then walked up Church Road until it becomes the High Road and popped into The Queens Head for a much needed pint. Suitably refreshed I retraced my steps a short distance to Butt Lane and followed this all the way back to Belton past the various holiday parks. Upon reaching New Road Belton I found myself at another pub, this time The Kings Head. Well I was in no rush so time for a sit down and some more refreshment. I found a couple of footpaths that allowed me to cross through Belton and made my way to Sandy Lane again where I retraced my steps back to New Road and my waiting car.
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Who knew there was a forest in The Norfolk Broads? Off course we all did, we will have cruised past it many times, but probably not realised it was there. If you cruise from St Olaves down The Waveney towards Burgh Castle on your right is Waveney Forest. It is a privately owned forest with two public foot paths that partially go through the forest. One of those foot paths ends up at Staithe Belt opposite Seven Mile House. You may often have seen a clearing that leads down to the river edge and wondered how those people got there? Well they wandered through Waveney Forest and down the path to Staithe Belt. Whilst the forest is privately owned, there are many foot paths through the forest and whilst these are not designated public foot paths no one seems to object to their usage and you will find many members of the public making use of the paths.
There is relatively easy access along the riverbank from the BA public mooring at St Olaves, or by car if you drive away from St Olaves bridge towards Fritton, when you reach the now closed and soon to be demolished Decoy Tavern, turn left into New Road. Head down there and about halfway down on the lefthand side there is some parking by the edge of the forest. A word of warning. The owners of the forest are sadly doing some commercial clearing of the forest quite close to the car parking, although this would appear to be better than the original plan which was to clear large areas of the forest for quarrying. For now that plan has been put to bed, but it is still sad to see parts of the forest being commerically cleared.
Tuesdays 11th October I parked up in New Road and took a stroll through the forest before returning to New Road and walking up it in the direction of Belton. At the end of New Road I turned right and followed Back Lane that gradually narrows until it becomes a byway. Once it narrows to the point where it is no longer accessible for cars, it becomes a nice shaded byway which discets the golf course which is part of The Caldecott Hall complex. After a while I took a left turn onto Sandy Lane and into the village of Belton. I followed Station Road North until it turns right into St Johns Road and just off on the left is a public foot path that leads you down towards The Waveney River, just at the upstream end of The BA public mooring.
At this point I'm reminded of an old nursey rhyme.
"If you go down in the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise"Well in this case it was this Motley Crue!
The lads week.
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1 minute ago, Vaughan said:
Therefore it should be known as a salting, or salt marsh, but perhaps not as a broad?
Possibly, although all three Benacre, Covehithe and Easton are referred to as Broads on the OS maps. The whole area is now designated as a site of scientific interest. Differing estimates give the village of Covehithe anywhere from 30 to 100 years before it is gone.
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25 minutes ago, Smoggy said:
There are some good pubs in southwold you know.
There is indeed, although if you go to Southwold harbour, then it is a short walk across an old Bailey bridge to get to Walberswick, which also has one or two good pubs. Alternatively you can also get the ferry from Southwold harbour to Walberswick.
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23 minutes ago, floydraser said:
Sorry everyone, it seems my sense of humour is misplaced. I'll stay away.
Not at all. I found it amusing. We should remember that The Thin White Duke himself referred to them as The Norfolk Broads. A point if anyone knows who I'm referring to!
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18 minutes ago, Smoggy said:
I've seen benacre broad on my chartplotter many times heading down the coast to southwold but never realised it was that close to the sea, I guess it's a salt water broad but is it a real broad? Was it dug out or just a naturally low area that has been inundated by the sea?
Which makes me wonder what is a real Broad? The Norfolk Broads were known as such before it was realised in the 1950's I think, that they were flooded old peat diggings. They were thought of as a collection of rivers and lakes and known as the Broads.
Benacre Broad could also be described as a coastal lagoon. It is fed by freshwater but regular breaches of the sand bar occur and the last in 2020 increased the salinity quite a bit.
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17 minutes ago, Gracie said:
You didn't go to Calthorpe Broad then?
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No but one day I shall have to go and check it out. So many places under our noses we didn't know existed.
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Leaving Kessingland I retraced my steps some way against a very fierce wind and having consulted the OS app decided to head inland on a foot path and turn it into a circular walk back towards Covehithe. When I reached the car I decided to walk down Mill Lane to the cliff edge. There is no public footpath marked, but enough people seem to have forged a path to the left along the cliff top and the edge of the farmer's field and it is possible to walk along the edge of the cliff in the direction of Kessingland until you reach Benacre Broad.
This would make a very nice short circular walk if when you reach Benacre Broad you double backed along the beach towards Southwold to Covehithe Broad and then took the public footpath back towards Covehithe.
Having mapped it out, it would be in the region of 2.6 miles.
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I'm no geologist, but I could stop and look at the colours, the layers and various exposed formations of the cliffs for hours.
The only problem is that Kessingland is calling and there is a pub there and I could do with a pint. The Sailors Home serves a very nice chilled pint of Aspalls.
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Getting towards Kessingland and there were one or two people out enjoying the wind and the sea. They were making swift progress.
Not sure I'd like being stationed in this defense shelter, especially at high tide!
The lads week.
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Protesters!
I rather suspect "these idiots" think the real "idiots" are the ones allowing new licenses for gas and oil exploration, or the "idiots" driving their gas guzzling cars on the road and warming up our planet.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, why do we have to label them as "idiots"
I agree the law needs upholding and that peaceful protests should be possible without disrupting everyone, but I also happen to think that we can do without more labels on this forum.