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11 minutes ago, petersjoy said:
Oh, if you mean why i replied it was just to let you know where Clive's mooringsare.
I am easily confused. Have messaged Clive.
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2 minutes ago, petersjoy said:
PM Clive on here, If you mean Paul 'Richardsons' it's nothing to do with them now. Clive is independant.
Was getting confused by you signing off as Paul.
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I love the log burner.
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On 13/02/2022 at 17:48, petersjoy said:On 13/02/2022 at 17:48, petersjoy said:
Cove Marina Brundall.
Bit lost here . Clive says berth available. Then a reply from Paul am confused sorry.
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Yet another boat that took my liking. I know one is told to stay away from wooden boats. Is that all wood or just wooden hulls. I do like the look of this but with my lack of knowledge is probably totally unsuitable.
https://www.boatshowrooms.com/boats-for-sale/london/classic-bourne-34/
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2 hours ago, C.Ricko said:
The 'Garden' mooring has gone but I still have spaces to put boats from 18-38 feet
May I ask where you/they are?
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On 12/02/2022 at 11:10, PaulN said:
Should you buy a boat, do you have a mooring lined up? If not I'd make inquiries about those too, as they're not easy to come by, particularly for the most popular locations.
The mooring situation, at present, is not as bad as I thought it might be.
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17 hours ago, Oldspice said:
Agree with what others have said regarding what is suitable and meets your needs and requirements regarding boat style design and fit out.
We changed our boat due to the Mrs having mobility issues (previous boat was 2014 Shetland 27i) and waited for over 6 months for our current boat to find us/come to market as we wanted a specific layout.
We now have Sheerline 950 centre cockpit but with a 5 berth layout which we find works well for us plus having a cut out stern and good side decks with plenty of hand rails making getting on and off when stern on moored or side on easy... warm enough in the winter and great when the weather is playing ball allowing the electric sliding canopy open.
All I can say is go and view as many styles as possible and get a feel of what suits and meets your needs more than others that then should help your decision a little easier as to what design/style is best for you.
With the weather being reasonably mild I'm sure you will find owners waking their boats up from the winter over the next couple of weekends at their marinas and I'm sure they would gladly answer any questions you might have... I'll be up at mine from tomorrow evening getting it washed and cleaned over the weekend come rain or shine lol..
Thanks am going to wander around the broads this weekend .
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4 hours ago, rightsaidfred said:
For me It's the best of all worlds low enough for all bridges, reasonably high good view when steering, ok with canopy closed in bad weather but good with canopy open in good weather mine is a AF 38 plenty of comfort for 2 but comfortable when entertaining, also handles well in all conditions.
Fred
Right Fred
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5 hours ago, Mouldy said:
Everyone has their own opinion and collecting opinions will surely only serve to confuse. Some folk like single level forward steer (bathtubs), because they’re convenient and can cruise most of the network, whilst others want to see more than reeds and sit higher with a better view. This is perhaps why centre cockpit are popular, as they offer a low airdraft for passage under most bridges with canopy and screen lowered, whilst having a higher helm and seating with the canopy up.
We have a sedan style cruiser, as with no canopy there are fewer draughts, so maybe better to use through the winter, but is less able to negotiate low bridges due to the taller airdraft. There is no design of cruiser that will be the best all of the time. There will always be a compromise, whatever anyone says.
For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t contemplate buying a boat with an outboard. Carrying petrol is an unnecessary inconvenience, heating in the boat is more difficult etc. The style and internal layout of a Viking is very similar to a Shetland with an inboard diesel and much preferable for that reason.
If you want an aft cockpit cruiser, why not look at a Sheerline 950 like this: https://www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/sheerline-950-aft-cockpit-for-sale/689548 Being a Sheerline, the internal fit and finish will be excellent and there is no reason that if we’ll looked after, this one wouldn’t be eminently suitable.
Am coming round to the mindset that petrol is not the best option for the Broads.
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40 minutes ago, rightsaidfred said:
Probably no where much for another month or so but as marshman said it will be your choice, there will be votes for or against every size, shape and type of boat on the water depending on peoples criteria, you need to decide what`s more important to you practicality or looks and how much time you expect to spend aboard ie weeks or weekends.
Major criteria for me would be ease and safety of moving around the outside when mooring and getting on and off with different bank heights, stability with the difference between narrow beam and wide beam including handling in a common Norfolk wind, then comfort and storage. style for me is centre cockpit but that`s personal choice.
Fred
A question why centre cockpit?
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2 minutes ago, rightsaidfred said:
Probably no where much for another month or so but as marshman said it will be your choice, there will be votes for or against every size, shape and type of boat on the water depending on peoples criteria, you need to decide what`s more important to you practicality or looks and how much time you expect to spend aboard ie weeks or weekends.
Major criteria for me would be ease and safety of moving around the outside when mooring and getting on and off with different bank heights, stability with the difference between narrow beam and wide beam including handling in a common Norfolk wind, then comfort and storage. style for me is centre cockpit but that`s personal choice.
Fred
The thing is until I talk to people, as I have here, I may be totally unaware of factors that I have not even knew existed.
With no disrespect to the reply by Marshman 'The point remains YOU have to make the decision! it does help me
if I am unaware of any glaring errors I may have in my needs, or more correctly my perceived needs.
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1 hour ago, marshman said:
The point remains YOU have to make the decision!!
Trolling around asking other peoples views will only get their views, not what you want!!
Maybe not but one can gather maybe a bit more insight.
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Have decide I will spend next 3 days touring the broads and just asking owners their opinions. Is there anywhere that stands out as a good location to descend on poor innocent boaters?
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16 hours ago, BroadAmbition said:
Maps - These are good:-
www.dash4it.co.uk/heron-waterway-map-the-broads..html
Griff
Thanks just ordered one looks to be a good choice.
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20 hours ago, PaulN said:
Don't know what your budget is, but this is a nice boat that my sister has seen and been on board today. A lot of money spent on it and immaculate, also it's a Haines, beautifully built boats..
https://www.nya.co.uk/boats-for-sale/haines-26-aft-cockpit/
These hold there value and could be a great first boat
https://www.broadlandyachtbrokers.co.uk/boats/392
Also a nice boat. Don't worry about location, road transport isn't that expensive.
https://www.tingdeneboatsales.net/boat-spec.php?BoatID=8204392
Hope that helps.
Back on the Bounty 28. There are so many out of date ads floating about is unbelievable. This boat for example startes repaint in 2013 nearly 10 years ago and mooring and licence till 2016
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17 hours ago, Matt said:
Saw this one come up today privately. I don’t know much about the design but they do seem popular.
My wife took a look at one of these this week and was not overly impressed by how they look. I am not fussed really and think they look okay. Again I have no idea about what is a good price or not. There was mention earlier in this thread of the same craft but a 35ft. Tried to contact the owner but no response.
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18 hours ago, rightsaidfred said:
Yes depends on whether you want a Broads boat or a boat to be used on the Broads, personally we opted for the first option for comfort and practicality not style and have never regretted it.
Fred
Yes is a quandary as they sound similar but are far from it.
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19 hours ago, Troyboy said:
Hello everyone. This is my first post so be gentle with me. Here's my tuppence worth.
I've owned 2 Viking boats both with an outboard. The petrol issue is a bit of a faff but not a difficulty that would put me off buying a boat I liked. The Viking 275s mentioned will be able to hold 2x25 litre fuel tanks. Or as I had 1x25 litre and 1x10 litre fuel tank plus 2x 10 litre Jerry cans for refills. All of these fit quite easily in the fuel locker so there were no safety issues. To get fuel you will need to walk to a petrol station and in fairness I wished they were a bit closer to the river. But good exercise for those who like that sort of thing. The outboard engines are really easy to maintain and make for very quiet cruising.
Regarding the Shetland 29i that's for sale. I looked at this boat 2 yrs ago at NYA when it was for sale for £64000 ish. A lovely boat in my opinion. For some reason it has had two owners in 18 months. It is approximately £8000 more than 2 years ago which is what has happened to most prices since Covid. I do think it is pricey.
I hope this helps.
Good that you have had experience of the boats with outboards. I would really hate to go outboard thinking the petrol obtaining effort was minimal and then find it a real drag. I think they will be stuck with the 29i for a while. Do I assume they have had it all this time. Mind you is now showing as sold, so what do I know.
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19 hours ago, PaulN said:
Don't know what your budget is, but this is a nice boat that my sister has seen and been on board today. A lot of money spent on it and immaculate, also it's a Haines, beautifully built boats..
https://www.nya.co.uk/boats-for-sale/haines-26-aft-cockpit/
These hold there value and could be a great first boat
https://www.broadlandyachtbrokers.co.uk/boats/392
Also a nice boat. Don't worry about location, road transport isn't that expensive.
https://www.tingdeneboatsales.net/boat-spec.php?BoatID=8204392
Hope that helps.
Thanks
The Haines is very nice but more than I want to spend on a first boat. Have set a limit of £100k
The old girl might be worth a punt, lol, as a first time experience.
The Sheerline looks nice but never envisaged spending that much on a boat 23 years old.
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1 hour ago, CambridgeCabby said:
It is in any brokers interested to price a boat at a price that they envisage a relatively quick sale , no money in filling their marinas with over priced boats that don’t sell .
That said , a decent surveyor will be able to give you a genuine / true value (in their opinion).
When we were searching we had to up our budget considerably to find what we wanted and ended up very happy we did so .
Happy end result.
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5 minutes ago, rightsaidfred said:
Can I make a suggestion given your questions, try hiring 2 or 3 different classes of boat if only for weekend breaks to get a feel for different classes, having hired many different boats when we bought ours we knew what we wanted and have only had the one boat for the last 17 or 18 years, it is a much cheaper and less stressful way in the long run.
Fred
They may not be a bad idea if it does nothing else but eliminate some designs. Only problem I see with this is that the hire boat market does not necessarily provide what I am looking at/for.
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2 hours ago, ExSurveyor said:
Smaller Shetlands have a bit of an issue with water soaked foam in the under floor area, as I found out on my family four. If you catch it soon enough it can be sorted, if not it can be a new floor deck throughout.
These newer, smaller boats seem a bit flimsy compared to my old Broom Scorpio and Topliner.
They are also quite narrow. The outboard is vulnerable to damage, yes, I know this too and it has taken 3 months to get engine casing parts. Being petrol isn't a problem for what I use it for, going up and down the river on a day out but for extended use it would be a nightmare.
I would look for a wider more traditional diesel broads type cruiser.
In the spring.
Not intending long trips but 3 or 4 days out and about would be definitely be the norm.
I agree with what you say regarding the 'flimsy' construction. Having caravanned for years boats like the Shetland and Viking are like I say a caravan without wheels. Most of the cabinetry, does such a word exist?, is just melamine veneered chipboard whereas older boats at least had some solid wood in there.
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38 minutes ago, PaulN said:
Don't just view online, I would recommend speaking to the Brokers face to face and following up regularly. A lot of the good boats are sold to waiting clients before they even get on the websites.
What tends to happen is that an owner asks a broker for a valuation and then the broker awaits the go ahead by way of a commission. The broker meanwhile contacts his people waiting for that type of boat and advises they have a boat coming is shortly. A good one can be gone within a day or two of the current owner issuing instructions. If this works for you, don't tell anyone else online until you have secured it.
P.S. Alphacraft are great boats, we love our one. See "Alphacraft Owners Group" on Facebook.
Oh I have been around lots of brokers big and small. Am on all their contact lists. My big problem is knowing if the price is reasonable as often nothing similar to compare with. Maybe we need a 'We buy any boat'
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Yes all sounds good until you see the realities. Funnily enough I met a couple in Potter Heigham at the weekend who were boat hunting. Looking at Bounty 27s. I found out they had just sold their boat, a wooden one, purely because the effort to keep it maintained was getting too much for them. One big minus with the Bourne34 is the loo. I thought I had left behind cassette toilets with my old caravans of the past.