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1 hour ago, OldBerkshireBoy said:
Perhaps the current owners lease that came with the house was for less than 99 years.
The current lease for 99 years is a new one issued by the BA because the current owners think they have a right to "use" a mooring where the BA have a boat house that is used to house the Electric Eel. A right to use a mooring is different from a permanent right to moor a boat. Whichever, it is a problem for the BA to solve in the current location of the problem, without giving away a section of public mooring paid for out of the toll payers account over 300 metres away from the problem. It is far to easy to give away public money.
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3 hours ago, floydraser said:
I may be missing something but it says the change of use is for 99 years and not transferable. But before that it explains that the owners have a right to the mooring which goes with the property. Surely then, if they sell up, the new owner also has the right and off we go again?
You have fair and squarely hit the nail upon the head. The current owners think they have a right to a permanent mooring based upon a non transferrable right to use a mooring, not to permanently moor a boat mind you, that was given back in the mid 60's. So if the BA concede and honour the non transferrable right this time around, isn't that setting a precedant for the next time the property is sold with non transferrable tights?
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1 minute ago, Oddfellow said:
There is no "average".
Clearly Vaughan thinks there is, otherwise he wouldn't have said so! So I wonder what it is?
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3 minutes ago, Vaughan said:
I think I could have guessed that yours would be a lot bigger than average.
Which begs the question, what is the average?
My boat still has the tank fitted by the hire yard that fitted it out.
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So the decision is a recommendation to allow the change of use at How Hill thus resulting in the loss of one more public mooring for 99 years, despite the fact that the application goes against the local plan. The real test is, if the owner of that land had been a private individual and not the BA, would the BA then have upheld the local plan and refused the change of use?
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19 minutes ago, Jonathan said:
I suggest that you try to re-fill after one day, then you can see how much you have used (how long it takes to fill) and you will be able to estimate how often you really need to fill the tanks
I would suggest that even that is not a very good metric. Neatishead and one or two others have a very poor flow rate, whereas Barton Broad has probably three times the flow rate of Neatishead.
My fresh water tank holds 480 litres but it will really depend on what spare space the yard could utilise to fit a tank when they were doing the fit out.
I would just try and keep the tank topped up on a daily basis. If there is a hose where you are moored overnight then use it. If you are passing a hose with a free mooring nearby and you haven't filled up that day then stop off and fill up.
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19 minutes ago, rightsaidfred said:
While I and probably many others appreciate that this is a Broads forum and I for one take it that questions on here relate to boats used on the Broads not sea going.
Fred
A forum that does contain an Offshore Area for discussions regarding offshore boating, and there's even been some posts in it this year.
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1 hour ago, annv said:
Who pays for all this planning inspectors wages boat tolls most of those applications i would expect the local council to do the planning for which we pay council tax what's changing a window for a French door/window when it dosn't face or be seen from the river or alter a stable block, to me it looks like we pay twice, council and river toll. John
The BA is also funded by Defra to perform some of its duties, including its planning responsibilities. The planning inspectors are not funded from the navigation account. They are however still funded from the public purse ultimately.
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27 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said:
This post is pure speculation... BUT.... Keepan eye on the How Hill application. I don't think it's the main BA mooring they talk about but the river a bit up-stream. I suspect it might be the BA trying to solve a bit of a problem they have, and it might benefit us all if I'm right.
Your right pure speculation
It is the very end of the public mooring downstream, the bit tucked just of the river, the most favoured mooring there for obvious reasons. The application is controversial for all manner of reasons, not least of which is the way it is described as an occasional mooring. It is not, it is a part of the public mooring and has been for many years and is paid for by the toll payers. Also take a look at who the applicant is. A member of the BA making an application for change of use into a private mooring for a private "owner". It is in "" because there is some very strong discussion in another place about whether they actually own a mooring further along at How Hill, or just have the right to use a mooring.
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11 hours ago, SteveO said:
The filling stations might better off imposing a minimum purchase limit to encourage people only to fill their tanks when they really need to and discourage idiots from filling up gallon cans.
They all ready do. Most pumps carry the text minimum delivery 2 litres, I think it is 5 litres on commercial diesel pumps. However not sure I understand your logic! If there is a minimum purchase limit of £30 and my car will only take £27 then I'm MORE likely to stick the other £3 in a can or anything more unsuitable rather than waste it. Off course if I did only put £27 in and went to pay what are they going to do? Force me to have the other £3 worth, or charge me £30, in which case weights and measures might have something to say about it.
There is no simple solutions other than encourage people to use their common sense.
Having passed my local Sainsburys petrol station for three days in a row when it has been open with no queues I relented and went in and topped up my tank. I now have enough to get to and from Norfolk next week.
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6 minutes ago, FairTmiddlin said:
Is it Scarred or Scared.
Or possibly both?
Think you'll find it's all three
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5 minutes ago, annv said:
The BA missed a trick when the Bromley's applied for planning for the development at St Olaves they could have had a 24hr mooring as part of the planning, there was moorings already there that belonged to the pub/restraint and all this could have been avoided, along with 24hr moorings that could have been beneficial to the bell and shops in the village it was a regular stop for us as bell moorings where invariable full. John
Not strictly true. The two newish BA demasting moorings either side of the bridge were a part of the planning for development. I don't know the full ins and outs but after protracted pressure they have finally been completed, as have one or two other landscaping improvements. However one thing is for sure, there is a long history of acrimony between the marina and the BA.
Sadly Chris Bromley passed away late last year.
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The end of petrol and diesel cars was scheduled for 2030 in the UK. This has now been bought forward to Friday.!
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The army have a very limited number of people trained to drive fuel tankers and even then they will need a few days training on the modern tankers used by the fuel companies and their procedures, so it would only be a very limited sticking plaster, however and its a big however, rather than just bringing in the army, why don't the greedy petrol companies who have underpaid their drivers for years, thus leading to a shortage of properly trained drivers, PAY the army drivers who are qualified to help them out of the hole of their own making.
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Seems like the press haven't quite done enough damage in causing people to panic and fill their cars up. Today's news coverage is all about fuel prices being at an all time high, the price of crude rising due to demand as the pandemic eases and how the price of fuel has gone up by another 1p over the weekend. So if we all rush out now we can prolong this disturbance and create even more havoc and save ourselves a few pennies in case the price rises by another 1p a litre this weekend!!!!
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Went shopping earlier on and gave up with my first choice as the roads were gridlocked caused by people queuing on the roads to get fuel. Went to Sainsburys in the town centre in the end as their petrol station was closed due to no fuel, and hence traffic had a chance to flow. Just been out to see my brother and Sainsburys must have just had a delivery. Forecourt open, all pumps open and not a car in sight. Was tempted to stop but I still have over half a tank and no long journeys planned till next week. Hopefully I don't regret it, but that's all that's needed is for people to act normal and stay away from the garages unless they really need fuel.
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You need to drive there but I can really recommend Causeway Farm Butchers on the Palling Road between Sea Palling and Ingham. Their beer and treacle bacon is absolutely gorgeous.
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17 hours ago, grendel said:
The only problem was that this meant tidying out the boot of my current car.
oops, I have now sorted into 2 piles, essential tools and spares (4 1/2 X small 5 litre boxes) and non essential tools and spares, 3 x50 litre plastic totes,.
the small boxes divide into spanners and sockets, other tools, spares, bulbs and nuts and bolts, these will need further sorting to reduce them down. Maybe I only need 1 of each size spanner.
If you were to leave that lot at home, you'd probably get an extra 5 miles to the gallon. The savings in fuel over the course of a year would easily pay for breakdown cover.
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Possibly one of the most disappointing things at the moment is the treatment of hospitality staff, and yet all it takes is some patience, planning, understanding and most of all empathy. I shall be on the boat from Saturday and have so far already booked tables for Sat, Sun and Tues evenings. Mon we are planning to be somewhere with a few choices and take our chances, but by and large once we know our plans for the rest of the week we shall be booking as soon as we can. Even though things are improving I'm not expecting to just turn up anywhere and get a table and expect to be fed. I know menus will be shorter than normal and wait times will vary. I've already modified my expectations accordingly. I'm a lot less likely to be disappointed and that way will enjoy my break.
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44 minutes ago, Vaughan said:
I think you may have just said more about yourself than you realise.
Yeah yeah whatever, personally I enjoy talking about hire boats and the Norfolk Broads is what I meant, but turn it however you want!!! Bored with it now anyway.
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2 hours ago, Vaughan said:
Well this is more fun than the previous subject anyway!
I guess that depends on your definition of fun
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2 hours ago, Vaughan said:11 hours ago, Meantime said:
Something has obviously touched a raw nerve, but I'm sure it wasn't intentional.
Not so much a raw nerve as a simple matter of discretion and courtesy.
Vaughan, not for the first time you have quoted me out of context to suit your own aims!!! My words were in response to RSF below because I don't see any speculation on this thread that could be detrimental to others.
11 hours ago, rightsaidfred said:its not our place to judge or critisise, it's just my mentality and pet hate but I dislike speculation that could be detramental to others.
If you review this thread, especially the first page there has been speculation, some of which you participated in as well, but none of it was malicious or detrimental, just genuine discussion and interest.
As the thread developed it peaked my interest and I did a bit if research using publicly held and freely available information. There are many reason to own a limited company, the most obvious of which is to limit your liabilities should the worst happen and the company go broke. As a counter balance to that much of a companies information gets held in the public domain to allow the general public to research, analyse and scrutinise should they wish to do so. It's how the system works.
When I was at school, I was taught in maths that one minus a third equals two thirds. You have to be a magician to continue to grow and expand something whilst it is shrinking.
What the directors, present and past, of Richardsons have done is impressive, admirable and importantly helps to protect the business for the future. They have managed to achieve the seemingly impossible with an amicable parting of the ways whilst protecting the business for the future and keeping it on a sound footing.
There is no detrimental speculation there, just praise and admiration.
Finally, I'm sorry, but I'm not even going to go into the subject of forum names again.
It is the very end of the public mooring downstream, the bit tucked just of the river, the most favoured mooring there for obvious reasons. The application is controversial for all manner of reasons, not least of which is the way it is described as an occasional mooring. It is not, it is a part of the public mooring and has been for many years and is paid for by the toll payers. Also take a look at who the applicant is. A member of the BA making an application for change of use into a private mooring for a private "owner". It is in "" because there is some very strong discussion in another place about whether they actually own a mooring further along at How Hill, or just have the right to use a mooring.
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So I have a slightly different problem. The foul tank is one side and the diesel tank is the other. The fresh water tank is under the centre berth and is sensitive to which way the boat is leaning. So at the start of the week with an empty foul tank, full diesel tank and full water tank the boat is level. As the week progresses and the foul starts to fill, and the diesel starts to empty slightly the fresh water will find its own diminishing level towards the foul side and accentuate the lean that way. Fill the fresh water tank and it will still settle on the heavier side of the boat.
This also means the boat will prop walk to Port in reverse, in varying degrees of severity depending upon the state of the tanks.
In the very early days of ownership I fitted a water meter on the outlet of the water tank. I then filled the tank and ran it until it was empty. The meter read somewhere very close to 500 litres, and I have always treated 480 litres as giving me a margin of error. Whenever I fill the tank I read the meter and then during the course of usage I can read the meter again and knowing what I have used, can work out how much I have left.
Is 480 litres bigger than average. Who knows but I've been told its a generous size and I've had no complaints yet!