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Thars a rummun do that all depend on how regular you are dunt it. Three days! Are you a fillun arn it up?
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3 minutes ago, Philosophical said:
I really think it is that simple.
If only.
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What is the difference between a fret and a haar? Or is it one and the same. What causes it? Warm air full of moisture meeting cold?
I have experienced it many times on our coasts and of course the dramatic fall in temperature. Many times I have seen the bank of mist or fog on the horizon and then after perhaps three or four hours of hot sunshine it sweeps to the shore in a matter of minutes. Indeed reaching inland for several miles.
Andrew
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What about the toilet pump out.
We could have the commercial pump out or the private pump out.
A private boat arrives for a pump out.
That will be £18.00 please.
Er! No. I'm private. These are private poops. I have already paid for water and sewage on my domestic tariff. So I am entitled to a free pump out.Already paid for me old mate. Charge it to the local council.
8 minutes ago, Paladin said:According to the Controlled Waste Regulations 2012, there is no such thing as boat waste. It's either household waste or commercial waste. Waste produced at a private boat is clasified as 'household waste', exactly the same as waste produced at a private house
According to the Controlled Waste Regulations 2012, there is no such thing as boat waste. It's either household waste or commercial waste. Waste produced at a private boat is clasified as 'household waste', exactly the same as waste produced at a private house
Then is it not an appropriate time to challenge the classification or will this saga continue ad infinitum.
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Just now, marshman said:
Great - you pay the extra costs! Unnecessary ones as it is the councils legal responsibility to clear domestic waste!
Bit like roads really- some people will not go on the toll roads if they have to pay and indeed why should they??
You are right the BA do get involved in any number of things but rubbish? Can you guess what uptick in tolls would be necessary? I suppose next someone will suggest that the BA pay for flood prevention just because boaters use the rivers???
Great - you pay the extra costs! Unnecessary ones as it is the councils legal responsibility to clear domestic waste!
It is boat waste. Domestic waste comes from domestic property....houses.
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1 minute ago, Paladin said:
You jest, course. The BA was appointed 'custodians' by the Norfolk and Suffolk Broads Act 1988, so hardly 'self proclaimed'.
The waste produced by the 'over 3000' private craft is household waste, for the collection and disposal of which there is no charge. So why should any extra burden be placed on the private owners? The whole drive of the EU Directive behind all this is 'the polluter pays'. Private owners have already paid for their household waste to be dealt with.
So be it if they have been appointed by the Act of 1988. Matters not in the scheme of things.
It is not household waste. It is not domestic waste it is boat waste. So why should any extra burden be placed on the private owners?
It is not a burden it is a responsibility. Why should I pay for it.
The whole drive of the EU Directive behind all this is 'the polluter pays'
Yes. I agree with that.
Private owners have already paid for their household waste to be dealt with.
Household waste. Good for them. So do I. What about their boat waste? Who should pay for that?
Andrew
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14 minutes ago, rightsaidfred said:
Yes they do but not as part of their business rates they pay on a volume basis, they pay business rates of which they will pass on
a proportion to their moorers.
Fred
Hi Fred
But do they all provide a waste disposal service
Andrew
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33 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said:
The simple answer is that the Broads Authority is not duty bound to provide rubbish collection and nor should it. My personal feeling is that that responsibility should be that of the businesses who's customers create the problem. I already pay for my rubbish disposal via my rates, why should I then pay a second time via my toll?
The BA as self proclaimed custodians of the Broads have a degree of responsibility.
As I have mentioned before the hire fleet is a shadow of its former self. It is the private sector with over 3000 craft who have to share the burden.
Unless of course Waveny District Council would like to send over a dollop to the poor and distressed of Broadland District Council.
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We often read of the money tourism brings into an area, so , Yes I do.
A contribution to age concern would be good. Please pay me direct. Cut out the middle man.
No they don't but the owner of the mooring pays rates, this cost is passed on to the moorer, so the moorer pays.
Does the owner pay for waste collection?
Andrew
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21 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said:
No, It's different situations in different places. The Norfolk Broads is, I would imagine, the largest concentration of self catering holidays in this country, or, more importantly, mobile self catering..
Other visitors to National park family members, tend to stay in B&Bs or caravan parks. Each have bins and those bins are emptied. paid for by the owners of said caravan parks/B&Bs. These costs are covered by the rates as paid by those owners. Boat owners (the vast majority of them) pay mooring fees. Within those mooring fees is the element that covers rates. The number of boats that don't pay mooring fees is insignificant so we shall not head that way!
Also the vest majority of boat owners also pay rates for their homes, whether they are there or not so domestic rubbish disposal is paid for already.
So basically comparing the situation on the Broads with any other situation anywhere else will be highly misleading, given that the Broads is a unique entity.
Other visitors to National park family members, tend to stay in B&Bs or caravan parks. Each have bins and those bins are emptied. paid for by the owners of said caravan parks/B&Bs. These costs are covered by the rates as paid by those owners. Boat owners (the vast majority of them) pay mooring fees. Within those mooring fees is the element that covers rates. The number of boats that don't pay mooring fees is insignificant so we shall not head that way
B&Bs or caravan parks, hotels, camp sites, holiday camps all produce waste The collection of that waste is as you have correctly stated is paid for by the proprietor. Irrespective as to how the owner pays for this service is to some extent irrelevant. An increase on his business rates or on the number of bins or the cubic capacity of these bins is taken into account and a charge is made accordingly. The owner will budget for this fixed cost or variable cost as the case may be. However you pay to stay at his establishment and the services he provides. Waste disposal is one of the services provided. Indirectly you pay for the disposal of your waste. You will not see it on your bill, but you do pay for it.
Boat owners (the vast majority of them) pay mooring fees. Within those mooring fees is the element that covers rates.
Do they all provide a waste disposal facility by default, by a legal requirement?
Also the vest majority of boat owners also pay rates for their homes, whether they are there or not so domestic rubbish disposal is paid for already.
Do you think that it is reasonable that the local parish of a small community should pay for holiday makers rubbish, or private owners rubbish. Of course not. Why should they.
Andrew
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Surely it is the re-classification of waste wthout any consideration towards the environment and the people who use the Broads.
The financial resources of the local councils over the last few years., have come under ever increasing pressure.
Our police force, National Health Service. Our road and rail networks have all been effected.
Our leisure pursuits have also been financially hit, inparticular boating.
The ratio of hire boats to private boats has changed dramatically. You cannot keep giving the donkey another whack.! The private boater has to make a positive contribution towards the waste that they produce.
As far as the boating fraternity is concerned there should be no such thing as industrial waste, commercial waste or domestic waste. It is all Boat Waste, and those that produce it should pay for its disposal accordingly and fairly.
Andrew.
(written under the influence of several Pims in my garden,wishing I was on the river this afternoon)
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I'm afraid it would be a big NO from me!
Andrew
A waste of time and money.
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17 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said:
As for CB, have tried that too, got a feeling that Old Wussie & me are on the same wave length on that one!
That old trucker Vaughan might like to join the convoy!
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Well said "good buddy".
"Ten four" and all that.
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4 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said:
Very interesting Andrew. What made you start counting them?
They most certainly migrated into Norfolk on that particular day. They did not stay more than a few days. Years ago numbers stayed and became residents, but no longer it would seem.
Andrew
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8 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said:
One shot from a punt gun could have sorted that lot out!
Ah, but Scientific Fuller would have been miles away on Rockland.
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In February of this year I counted over 150 coot on Malthouse broad on a single day.
So putty nose is still about.
Andrew
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2 hours ago, SPEEDTRIPLE said:
We`re all boating enthusiasts, so should turn up in whatever boat we have or hired, or even by car.
And that is the very part of us.
And I hope that this forum will always be recognised as such.
Andrew
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57 minutes ago, Broads01 said:
Sounds like you're having a great time Vaughan. How is Monte Carlo?
Are you on board until Tuesday? I'm coming up to Norwich on Sunday with Mrs Broads01 for 2 nights in Premier Inn then boat from Richardsons on Tuesday pm. I don't know if our paths will cross but it would be good to say hello.
Be careful. The bounders hospitality at the meet has unfortunately given me gout.
Andrew
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8 minutes ago, Vaughan said:
Since arriving in Norfolk 10 days ago I have been searching shops for a map of Norfolk which shows not only the NDR but the other roads which have been closed off in the building of it. Haven't found one yet!
Thas in case we get invaded they wont no where there a goen.
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Dog hairs are a problem. Depends on the breed to some extent.
The serious issue for the hire boat operator is a flea infestation discovered on turn round. You have to carry out a deep clean with limited time available. That is when the cost kicks in.
Andrew
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15 minutes ago, LondonRascal said:
On a closed river system that the Broads is, I could see one day a proper infrastructure of electric charging points - in the meantime I think what will happen sooner than any of that is the resurgence of small, perhaps even turbo charged, clean burning petrol engines on boats. Morden fuel injected engines don't suffer quite the same woes in damp environments, are very quiet, offer a good amount of power for their size and weight leaving only the big elephant in the room to contend with: Highly flammable fuel in large amounts on boats.
But not in the foreseeable future. The capital investment required is such that it would be unstastainable
Before that becomes an eventuality of the public's awareness of NR2 emmisions, in particular of running diesel engines at a mooring, will become unacceptable and cause concern towards those who persist in carrying out such a practice.
I would support them.
This is a matter that needs to be addressed by the authorities before unrest prevails.
Andrew
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5 hours ago, Vaughan said:
We also plan to arrive mid afternoon and will help out however we can.
We are a team. I help and Wussername hinders. Or was it the other way round?
Fear not I shall be right behind you. The old army training will soon kick in despite me troubles "down below". Just do not forget to adopt the brace position if I am tasked with parking the boaty jobby.
Bow Thruster Guidance
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However people need to know how to use them, when to use them, where to use them and where not to use them.
Oh! And how to handle the boat when conditions are such that you are unable to use them.