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  1. 3 hours ago, Vaughan said:

    There now, wot wuz oi now a'tellin on yer? Now yar gorn an brook it!

    Oi knew that woont wuk and an now thass brook orf.

    That wunt me master Vorn. I dunt no narthan.

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  2. i am not sure Ray that the car bit is relevant. it is a boat. Concentrate on that bit.

    I was hit by a hire boat on Salhouse Broad three weeks or was it four weeks ago. I was moored up. Having lunch.They reversed into me, at speed in attempt to stern moor. 

    I had ten people on my hired picnic boat. Children, parents and grandparents. It was a serious hit, at speed. Glasses, food, plates on the floor. Cupboard doors flew open, the contents smashed on the floor. I had ten guests on board. All confused. Upset.

    On the hire boat, one women injured, badly bruised hand in an attempt to fend off. 

    Some of the hire boat people were in tears. the hire boat attempted to leave. One member of their crew was standing on the stern, his arms extended in a passive manner and in broken English told me that it was the first day on the boat and they they did not know how to reverse the boat.

    i requested that they reversed back. They did not feel confident enough to attempt the maneuver. so another member of the crew used the boats dinghy to the bank to confront me. As he approached I informed him it was not to be a confrontational meeting.

    I helped him from his dinghy and shook his hand and thanked him for meeting me. By the way, it was friendly fire, a blue on blue. We were both from the same boat yard. 

    I told him that I was duty bound to report to the boat yard which i duly carried out. And we carried out the formalities. Although I feel that the lady with the bruised hand would carry her discomfort for the duration of her holiday.

    I felt so very sorry for the hire boat driver. He had an expectation, for his holiday, which failed to reach his ideal.

    The Industry, the Broads Authority, those who rely on our visitors, our pubs, restaurants, our media, indeed the forums need to be aware of the value and impact of their contribution.

     

     

      

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  3. 2 hours ago, Poppy said:

    I'm sure they don't. However pressure to ensure that holidaymakers are properly prepared and instructed before embarking on their trip would not come amiss.  It's even more important now with the 40 -45 footers that are coming out of the yards with folks in control who demonstrably would have trouble handling a picnic boat.

    Hi Poppy. "Properly prepared and instructed". 

    By who?

    What training has that person received? What accreditation has he obtained to teach, to instruct. 

    Do all boat yards conform to the standards and principal of that which is accepted and approved with regard to the basic requirements recognised by those of us, including your goodself, and have a reasonable expectation that these disciplines have been identified and understood.

     Some will say that the trial run has stood the sence of time. It requires little attention.

    I disagree. It needs revisiting. There are so many implications which relates to the boat yard, the boat yards agent and his client, the customer, in the event of a serious incident. 

    We live in a different legal environment from that of years ago.

    That is why I believe Poppy's post is so important.

    Andrew.

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  4. Great photo. Ship shape and Bristol fashion. I love to see it.

    No wonder when people coming into moor sometimes get themselves into the most awful muddles when presented with a dog's dinner which they try frantically to untangle.

    Andrew

  5. 18 minutes ago, Vaughan said:

    Stella is one of the newly built Cruisers which conforms to the class measurement rules (just) and so can be called a River Cruiser. She is hardly a traditional Broads yacht, however.

    In the 70s there was much discussion when it was proposed to build Cruisers with Fibreglass hulls. It was decided that this was probably the only way to take the class into the future and keep it alive. Since then, new materials have been allowed for spars and rigging, as well as some pretty radical designs. So you have a mix of modern racing yachts among traditional preserved classics, which all manage to live and race together! Seeing that the class now has over 300 member yachts, instead of about 70 beforehand, it would seem we made the right decision, back then!

    Maidie on the other hand, is the last survivor of the old "A" class Cruisers which raced on the Broads between the Wars. Between races she was kept in the boatshed just beside the Wherry Hotel and Mike Barnes used the same shed when he completely re-built her in the 1980s

    I can remember when Maidie stood on a hardstanding in the centre of Norwich for what seemed several years. In fact some thought she would never race again. I believe she was owned by a Mr Tinkler a motor cycle dealer, but I may be wrong.

    Andrew 

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  6. 6 minutes ago, dnks34 said:

    Pumpouts are usually charged per tank.

    I can see the sense in all 3 toilets being fed to one tank but not if the tank is only big enough to take 2 days worth, theres always the chance the toilets were being over used or the tank wasnt empty to start with I suppose. 

    Could one argue that the volume of the tank is for three toilet's and that the owner of the equipment has to pay for the disposal to the local water/sewage authority accordingly. I really don't know.

    On a different tack. Many many years ago I remember one bogerolagist who on taking payment worked on the principle that every other payment was his and was trousererd in an old aged tradition. The governer had the rest.

    Andrew

     

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  7. Funnily enough I was at Womack today when a holiday makers asked me where he could get a pump out. He had been on the boat two days. Four adults, four children. The three toilet's were all reading full. There was only one holding tank.

    I directed him to the pump out facility on the quay heading. He also asked me how much it would cost him.

    I told him to enquire at the shop which managed the facility.

    Firstly should the toilets have filled up after two days. Had they been instructed as to how to use the toilets properly and finally on what basis should they have been charged. One, two or three toilet's.

    Andrew

  8. 1 hour ago, Polly said:

    So what happened then?

    Who knows.

    Dear old Timbo has only been on the river for a couple of hours and there is a hiatus. 

    All of us are now on QRA. (Quick Reaction Alert)

    Andrew

     

     

  9. 1 hour ago, Vaughan said:

    Thank you Wyndham, and others, for your kind comments. A bit of historical reference is always good. It often puts things in proportion.

    As to writing a book, maybe I have already written most of it, in the pages of this forum? It is a very valuable resource, especially in the historical and technical areas. It is always here, for members old and new to dip into, and find what they are looking for. I sometimes spend hours, just reading back on information and history, from long before I joined.

    This, of course, is something Facebook cannot do for us, as that is a transient medium but this is a lasting archive. When the time comes (as it must) to adopt a new constitution, we must ensure that we assist our team to give this resource a secure and solid grounding, so that it is always there for us.

    This not a political message - just a sentiment from me!

    “History is always written by the winners. When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes the history books-books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe. As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a fable agreed upon?”


     Dan Brown, The Da Vinci Code

    I prefer Vaughan's version of history as to that which is perceived by some.

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  10. Pass the parcel comes to mind.

    Ii is my fervent wish that I will be able to witness an authority that is recognised as having accountability and considers itself worthy of accepting that responsibility.

    I am unable to identify any such authority within our community or The Broads in particular.

    Andrew

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  11. 2 hours ago, Willow said:

    Hi all,  I've read all your posts, 

    I'm new to this forum to, 

    We have our own boat currently out being refitted, ( very expensive ) so we're hirering at the moment to keep our hand in ,

    I agree with some that hire craft users sail to fast don t take into consideration the tide or wind when moaring we think that's due to the company not explaining it properly when taking them out on rest drive , New sailors can't take it in in 10 mins when their tired from a long drive with family argueing in the back ,waiting around the yard,unloading the card into boat, not been on river before, 

    We've watched them just stood at side of hire craft worker out of yard this long boat down the river he turns it round you take it back he turns it round them your on your own !!! Full boar down the river 

    So please give guidance if possibly  (wanted)help them tie up that way your viat won't get damaged,  

    And everyone has a good time And people want to come back instead of coming home thinking their grumpy private boat owner's don't want to have anythingto do with hirers,

    We're all here because of the broads,

    Thank you Willow. I was a trial run driver, an instructor if you like, for some 30 years.

    I find your comments worthy of further consideration by those on this forum for  contribution and may I suggest constructive criticism with regard to the induction of the new hirer.

    Andrew

     

     

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  12. 29 minutes ago, grendel said:

    ..........., run by the same moderators and staff, and soon facebook will be run under the same TOS as we use here.

    I believe that the comment above should go a long way in having a calming influence on the doubts and suspicion that many of my generation have harboured in the light of adverse articles of late in the media towards Facebook and the amazing use of Twitter by a well known gentleman.

    It is good to know that there will be a measured control and discipline across both platforms.

    I for one don't always like it or agree with it but it is so very important within our community in the long term.

    Andrew

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  13. 7 minutes ago, EastCoastIPA said:

    I may have inadvertently caused some confusion?

    I know no more than is openly available to all members of the Facebook NBN group. It is common on Facebook to open an account in your own full given name. You can then use this Facebook account to join "groups" of which one of them is the NBN group. The moderators and admin will have done the same. It is obvious by some of the Avatar pictures who they may be on this forum, but I don't feel it is my place to put a full name to any of the forum account names. For the record my Facebook account is my full name and not EastCoastIPA. I think this is also true for the majority of the Facebook members. There is no great conspiracy in that, but it is more about the way the two different systems work. If friends or family want to find me on Facebook they are going to know my name, rather than some obscure forum nickname. You don't have separate Facebook names for different groups you may join, although I guess it is possible to create more than one Facebook account if one really wanted to. I would guess on this forum about 10% of people use their real name, whereas it is possibly greater than 90% on Facebook.

    On the other hand most of the forum members here, myself included use a nickname, as do you yourself Wussername. So it is sort of the reverse to what you implied when you said we provide our names.

    I used to use my name on here many moons ago, but decided for a variety of reasons not to use that account anymore and therefore ECIPA was born. As a result of that I wouldn't appreciate anyone who put two and two together linking my Facebook account which has my full name, with this forum account. I am simply affording that same courtesy to all other Facebook members, as indeed I would if I recognised a member of another forum and they used different names on different forums. Some may note that ECIPA does not appear on any other Broads forum, yet it should be obvious from my posts that I do belong to other forums.

    ECIPA. You must plough your own furrow. For me all I see is smoke and mirrors. Perhaps I am of a different generation and would like to leave it as that.

    It has served me well in the past.

    Andrew

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