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Cheesey69
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There’s another way of doing it.
Find your space, measure up and get it made.
At least that’s what Richardson’s have done to our ex hire.
massive tank but flattened so it can fit under bed.
unlagged but a quick visit to a builders yard and it’s ready for winter.
Stainless steel by the look and as an added bonus a nice gentle warmth radiates to the mattress -
Dr sleep. The shining part 2. Netflix
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His a poet and he never knew it.
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Thanks! As an east coast sailer my boat went up on the hard for winter so it was safe but I missed some lovely winter sailing.
This time around I spurned the offer from my boatyard for winter hard standing determined to cruise in the winter.
oh hindsight.
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Hi all,
Just a thought.
Although not obligated to end lockdown in December and can extend lockdown 2 to January pressure is growing to toughen up the Tier measures.
Indeed the stance from ministers is going from we will definitely end lockdown in December to we will save Christmas.
In the tier system travel from a higher tier to a lower one is banned.
Not being funny here but those who haven’t winterised their boats thinking they could wait until lockdown 2 ends could be in a world of hurt.
I guess it all depends what tier you live in but personally the lack of a run up to this lockdown and it coming on in the middle of a work week has given many no chance.-
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Any journey that ends in recreation isn't classed as unnecessary, no matter how long. So that never was said.
Boris actually encouraged exercise and recreation and in fact, no limits was imposed for travel.
Local journeys. This bits is a carry over from lockdown 1.
Lockdown 1 rules was superseded by new legislation for lockdown 2. A fact that was not made widely known.
This is the bit BA could have handled better.
Others, including my own agency, printed a copy of the new rules and listen to Boris carefully when he said this was not going to be the same.
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5 hours ago, rightsaidfred said:
Not sure what more they could have done in maintaining the system, as for guidance I didnt ask for or look to the BA to tell me what I should or shouldnt do, for me that was self evident from government announcements.
Fred
At the risk of digging it up, what was "self evident" from the government announcements?
I'll wait.
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I pay my marina to keep my boat safe. And that’s what they have done.
The Tolls? Different question as I don’t think the BA have performed well in lockdown 2-
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After a quick look around, I found plenty of data on fines for gathering s, no face masks but very few on out door pursuits and travel.
Most that you do find date back to the early days of lockdown 1.Is it because these are low hanging fruit and easy to persecute?
Black and white for gatherings and non face mask but for the vexed recreation questions?
I stress again this was only a fast scan.
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“When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?”
Great quote said someone long dead.
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4 minutes ago, Paul said:
that isn't confirmed in the report, do you know more than is printed, or making an assumption. They could be five people from one household making a non essential journey.
They may be fined it’s up to the magistrate to confirm it.
appeal it.
sure I’ve read somewhere the backlog is growing and I would like to know the success rate is -
1 hour ago, Meantime said:
If you read deeper into that story five people were fined for being in the same car, therefore breaking the rules on not mixing households indoors or outdoors and rightly so. There is no limit in the Bill on how far you can go, or the mode of transport to take exercise or recreation providing you are meeting all the other rules on mixing of households etc.
Another example of seeing what you want in a story.
Story here of people having a go at a blind person for not social distancing and not waiting their turn in queue because guide dog trained to take her to the shops entrance.
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3 hours ago, JennyMorgan said:
. . . . and probably an internal inquiry as too the whistle blower was, someone's career will be hitting the buffers!
Withholding 'unhelpful' negative information, coupled with the advantageous presentation of carefully selected, positive information deemed as being helpful to the party line, is a practice that is clearly and regretfully alive and well. The leading of an agenda by the production and manipulation of Officer Reports is nothing new. Good on Fish Legal for highlighting the problem.
Luckily enough we have a whistle blowers law to protect these people hiding secrets.
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Good point but you don’t set the agenda.
As said by others, it’s your, and wishful thinking, interpretationThis was never a full lockdown, even if you want it to be.
no one is finding loopholes, these are exemptions for mental health reasons as been said time and time againThe mental health of the country is very important and as acknowledged by the government.
You can only rule by consensus and I’m afraid, if this was a very strict lockdown, I don’t think many would put up with it.
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1 hour ago, Ray said:
On the one hand you say he is a sheep and on the other that he has made an assessment!
It's 4 weeks for god's sake, suck it up for the common good whether you like it or not!
No. You stay in if you want, that’s down to you. Your right.
Me? I do what my rights tell me I can.
And yes, I’m a card carrying key worker who’s been there through out.I’ve sucked it up.
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It’s the hang over from unnecessary travel bit. They see you working on you boat as not recreation.
The government jump too fast for everyone to keep up
BA gone right, everyone else, gone left-
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So if Defra say no. Then the handbrake goes on everywhere.
Can’t see that one going down well.
so unless someone is really brave then it’s yes for boating but don’t stay overnight -
Beware that some providers don’t like hotspoting.
if the phone is tied into one of these then you can’t.
Back in the day T mobile wouldn’t let me on that particular plan-
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Just read the latest update on BA website
all it really says “it’s up to you, we can’t really decide”
thoughts?
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Hmm. I’d get a plan that comes with unlimited data.
That gadget is what is in effect a personal hotspot still uses the same cell signal as your phoneI use my phone as a hotspot and everything else connects to it
or get a pay as you go and load it up with data and hotspot it.
look around for unlimited data plansand that page looks like an advert not a recommended
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55 minutes ago, grendel said:
meanwhile, I spotted this article from the manchester evening news (https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/car-insurance-could-invalid-you-19243516?fbclid=IwAR3JeeNwtBCBtqXBdYYkGRbRrNG1SHu6tZukMVzm-ctC7v60K_RAXD_pTMY) that says your car insurance may be invalid if you are travelling for a non essential purpose and quote
interestingly no mention is made of 'to exercise' as essential travel.
so just be aware that insurance companies may use any travel not deemed essential (in their eyes) to avoid paying out should you have an accident.
I suppose another reason to stay at home and not go anywhere then, and yet another person to explain why your journey was essential to (and we all know how good insurance companies are at wriggling out of paying).
this would also be a good reason why you might want to go shopping by boat rather than taking the car! provided of course that your boat is ready to hand.
Of course marine insurance might take a similar stance, so its probably also worth contacting your insurer and checking you are covered if you want to use your boat during lockdown.
It all boils down to the name “lockdown “
The government and scientists have be trying to steer us away from using the term.
it implies this lockdown legislation is the same as the last.
It isn’tThe PM said it isn’t but we are all guilty hearing what we want to.
Even with the legislation posted here people still refuse to seethat includes government departments and indeed, big business.
The definition of essential travel has widened so far as to be virtually unenforceable. See future court cases for any prosecutions-
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3 minutes ago, psychicsurveyor said:
Carpet shops are not allowed to open, no doubt they will be closed tomorrow after a visit from the local council.
We had a barber in my area was adamant he would stay open, he lasted a day before he was closed by the lical authority and the landlord changed the locks.
Well not round here. Successfully claimed carpets can be considered DIY which is allowed.
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11 minutes ago, Paladin said:
The prohibition on travelling to other areas was repealed with the passing of the current regulations. These present regulations contain no restrictions on the distance that may be travelled to fulfil any of the activities allowed under the exemptions. 5 miles or 50 miles, it doesn't matter, providing the purpose of the travel is a permitted one.
The regulations are very loosely written in many respects. A simple example:
I live 3 miles from my surgery, from which I collect medication each month (a permitted exception under the regs). I can drive my car there and back, or I could drive a mile to my boat, drive my boat for three hours to Womack Staithe, walk 10 minutes to the surgery, then back to my boat for the drive home.
I'm not saying that is what I would do, but there is nothing in the regulations to say I can't. And I wouldn't be breaking any social distancing advice, either.
This point needs to be hammered home.
This isn't lockdown 1.
What you should do or not is irrelevant. I go by the law because this isn't a police state.
As been said, I really cant think of a more socially distancing activity than being on the broads than in my boat.
I've never been furloughed, because im classed as a key worker, no ones clapped for me (except when they are stuck in 2 of a motorway), no ones put up rainbows or do i get preferred access at supermarkets.
Because this is my job.
Its what I signed up for unlike, say, supermarket workers.
But for the love of any God, just let me de- stress on my boat!
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This is the problem we are finding.
You think you know the rules.
You think the rules are common sense according to you.
But few have actually read the things.
Few understand the difference between the rules and guidelines. and that the latter can change.
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Thinking Out Aloud...broads Authority
in Speakers' Corner:
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Hi,
If you agree with me or not, it has become apparent that the BA chose wrong to stop cruising on The Broads.
As it was pointed out in an another place, you pay a Recreational toll on your boat and since recreation was allowed...
Anyways, moving on, I feel I've been denied a months use of my boat and the BA had a months toll off of me for no reason.
I'd like to see the reasoning behind this decision, what advice they took and from whom.
Did they think lockdown 2 was an extension of lockdown 1? And if they did why?
My governmental department knew this lockdown was different and issued us with changed guidance and passes to travel even before the new legislation passed into law, why did the BA react so slow and then failed to react to changing information?
DEFRA made it clear that no new guidance was going to be issued regarding boating, so why did BA not follow other national parks?
If the new tier system is strengthened then many wont be able to travel to their boats and this time that will be legitimate. Thats fair. However, in this lockdown, I think the BA over reacted and maybe assumed too much as many did and you can argue about the "sprit" of the law or the "morals" of the law but i'm afraid that don't wash. The law just dont work that way.
"Sorry your honour, I nicked his motor because I thought it morally wrong his got such an expensive car when others have not."
So as i sit and look over the Medway, I see motorboats inch past me on their way to marinas, I cant help thinking that an explanation is needed.