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14 minutes ago, oldgregg said:
If you want a go-anywhere Broads boat, then no it's not really suitable as there a lot of places it won't go.
You may be best hiring a couple of times, perhaps a centre-cockpit, a Sedan, a Dual Steer or to see what a full-on flybridge cruiser is like on the Broads, give Far Horizon a try.
That process will cost you a bit of money, but you'll work out the sort of boat you need. I've picked a few older boats there to keep it sensible.
I've seen plenty of people buy a Sports cruiser because it looks 'cool', and then realise that there's a reason Broads boats aren't built like that and they end up changing to something more spacious having already spent a load of cash on the previous boat.
Thanks for the reply and the links, much appreciated.
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3 hours ago, Chelsea14Ian said:
Don't worry it's often people pulling one another's legs.Going back to boats.I would agree with others perhaps not ideal as a first time/broads boat.I would suggest you call into NYA and NBS.They can be found at Brundall, Horning.NBS has an office also in Wroxham. It's worth checking some of the boats available. Also you can test drive some.Once you get the boat the hard apart then is changing it to sult you.Boats often look good but not always right for you.Much like houses I find you know it's right,when it feels right.
Thanks for the reply.
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11 hours ago, CambridgeCabby said:
Depending which boat you’re looking at , we looked at a Broom 35 with aftermarket added fly bridge , twin screw a couple of years ago .
the air draft I believe was about 11ft which meant very limited cruising unless the upper level is hinged in which case would be about 8ft8 meaning Ludham and the upper reaches of the Ant would be occasionally viable.
With twin engines of that size she was obviously designed for estuary and coastal cruising so IMHO not really suited to The Broads , we have a twin engined boat and something to remember is servicing costs and maintenance etc are double that if a single screw , we had. I intention of buying twin engines it was sods law that the boat we fell in love with and wanted had them
At the end of the day only you know what you really want in a boat and where you want to use her , if you want to go to sea then strike all small single engined off your list if you only wish to cruise inland waterways (The Broads) then would be prudent to strike high airdraft , large engined and petrol (can’t buy petrol afloat on the Broads) off.
but its your money your choice
Thanks, have noted your points, time to reset the compass I think.
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11 hours ago, JennyMorgan said:
Perhaps not really a Broads boat and not best suited to cruising the Broads, in my humble opinion. Perhaps it's time to decide what you want of a boat and where you intend to use it.
Thank you, can you elaborate on the point of what & where.
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11 hours ago, dnks34 said:
I will give you my thoughts and say a twin engine cruiser of that era possibly wouldnt be my choice as an ideal first boat for a broads novice.
I believe marine surveyors can provide a valuation but their services will cost. You could compare prices if you can find a similar boat listed for sale online (for sale on the broads as prices vary area to area).
If you really are interested in it and assuming your boat knowledge is limited being a first time novice owner a survey might be beneficial as pitfalls could be numerous with any boat and if you dont know what your looking for it could save you in the long run, or even give you a few bargaining chips.
I dont often recommend a survey but this sort of situation is exactly when they can be useful if not vital!!
Good luck
Thank you and have taken your points onboard and I would have a survey carried out, shame really as it was 20k cheaper than I`ve seen locally.
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1 hour ago, quo vadis said:
Can’t help with that one sorry, however I have a sister who works for the gas board if you want a meter
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Evening all,
Do you have or have you had one in the past, please tell me the good, the bad and the ugly about them. Looking at one built in 1978 (seller claims one of only 70 built?). Twin Perkins 145hp engines, would it be a good choice for a novice first broads boat? Lastly how can I get a valuation on it other than the sellers asking price?
As always, thanks in advance.
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4 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said:
Quote from Google when I asked "How does an induction hob work"
Induction cooking heats a cooking vessel by electrical induction, instead of by thermal conduction from a flame, or an electrical heating element. ... An induction hob contains a coil of copper wire underneath the ceramic plate, and when a cooking pot is placed on top an alternating electric current is passed through it.
Which blows a big hole in the article I was looking at earlier. Can I blame the Russians for false information or should I put it down to the Red wine?
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51 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said:
Would an LPG Induction cooker have an induction hob with an LPG grill and oven? As I understand it that's the only way it could exist. Induction will only work off the electric, and grills and ovens cannot be induction.
As ever, I stand to be corrected.
Thinking seperate LPG hob with stand alone normal non induction LPG grill and oven.
I don`t know how they work either but it`s got people thinking
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16 minutes ago, Thiswan said:
Like the idea of a cooking hob that doesn't normaly get hot with no pan present but what if you get over familier and put your finger with a ring on too close. silly I know but!
Guess there is a Red warning light as on other hobs (?).
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15 minutes ago, annv said:
hi pumpmedic induction hobs work from electric causing a magnetic field cant see how lpg which is a gas will work you will need 100 plus amps at 12 volts or shore power or 6 kva generator plus not all cookware works with magnetic field, i would stick to gas it will heat up the boat as well as cooking. also not sure how well the pots will stay on hob when on water, the top is a flat shiny glass finish. John
Don`t understand how they work either John but they do make them, was just thinking if induction is supposed to be quicker then less gas would be used. As I said my mind was just having a wander on a quiet Sunday afternoon.
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34 minutes ago, Lastdraft said:
I owned one for several years, wood topsides GRP hull, the wood maintenance became too much like hard work as mentioned on a recent post. They are very well built with quality interior wood finish. Twin engines provided more than enough power, air draft 9’6”. I have owned several boats but the Storebro Royal the best by far.
Attached a pic a couple of years ago, leaving Gt Yarmouth harbour............ we weren’t out very long !
Thanks for the reply, maybe if I was younger then
. Lovely looking boat all the same.
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Just letting my mind wander where it may go and thought "Induction hob", now induction is supposed to be quicker and therefore cheaper and a quick St. Google brought up lpg versions so has anyone used one?
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1 hour ago, VetChugger said:
All I have ever read about Storboro boats has been very positive and they do hold value well and quite a high one as well. Chunky Scandanavian built boats with high quality interior woodwork. A lot seemed more suited to coastal use and the Thames though being twin engined.
Only seen a few pictures online however the interior woodmanship looks top notch, agree about coastal use which is not my agenda so despite it being a third of the asking price compared to others currently advertised I guess it is best if I pass.
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35 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said:
If it is, I'd make sure you get the best boat surveyor going. Sorry and all that but I'd be very cautious.
Thanks, used the search box after posting and comments found weren`t encouraging tbh so think I`ll give it a miss.
27 minutes ago, vanessan said:Any idea what the air draft is on that?
Can`t find that info, pretty high I`d say.
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Morning all,
Found one of these for sale which I like the lines of and compared to others for sale seems a good price even though it does need finishing. Have I got it right that it a grp> wood <grp sandwich hull and has anyone any experiance or comments of them one way or the other?
As always, thanks in advance.
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3 minutes ago, boycee said:
Had an Alpha 35 centre cockpit for 23 years now, excellent all round broads boat. Roof lowered 6ft 6" headroom roof up 8ft 6" headroom no probs under any bridges except Potter which used to be possible but very rarely now as time & tides have changed
Boycee
Thanks for replying, there seems to be a lot of Alpha 35 centre cockpit owners singing their praise here.
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12 hours ago, psychicsurveyor said:
I guess the answer is, you can see over the reeds but not go under some bridges.
Never seen over the reeds in any boat I have owned or hired, probably just more reeds
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A consideration for some Southern rivers but not an issue up north.
If you are planning to use all year, think about how drafty the sliding roof or canopy is.
Have fun looking.
Thanks for the reply, everything noted from all response`s. Won`t be using all year round more like most of it but point taken.
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12 hours ago, SwanR said:
Hi Pumpmedic,
I think it isn't just about the view, it depends what you want from the boat as well. I've hired different kinds of cruisers and they all have their pros and cons. Whilst you don't see over the reeds so much on a forward steer cruiser it can suit some people better to have a boat that is all on one level.
A centre cockpit boat is great for the views while you're cruising but I don't think that the windows give as good visibility once you're moored up. And you have to keep going up and down the steps when moving around inside. Plus they tend to have a higher freeboard ... if you or your crew are vertically challenged (i.e not very tall!) then getting on and off when side-on moored with high tides can be difficult.
Maybe if you're able to try boats of different kinds you'll get a feel for what is going to suit you best.
Thanks for the pros & cons type of response, much appreciated.
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2 hours ago, ranworthbreeze said:
Hello Pumpmedic welcome to the forum.
You will find that although being proficient on the canals is by no means a bonus when first starting on the Broads. I found this 18 years ago when we bought our share in Ranworth Breeze, my 27 years on the canals did not count for much. The wind and tides were something that had to be learnt very quickly.
Regards
Alan
Thanks Alan, no doubt I have much to learn, just referenced canals to show my experiance however limited it may be but I need to hear comments like this.
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5 hours ago, psychicsurveyor said:
I know a nice Calypso 28 for sale
for less than half your budget, and it gets under Potter bridge more often than a lot of boats.
Thanks for replying, that is the sort of boat I first started looking at, then I read a thread somewhere about seeing nowt but the reeds and missing out on the beauty of the broads so started looking at other styles - Did I misread the point about the view?
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2 hours ago, Chelsea14Ian said:
Welcome to the forum, my question how much do you know about the broads?as for boats I would suggest you check NYA and NBS.you can check on line there are also other sites that offer boats for sale.
Not a lot tbh, willing to met anybody for a coffee/ beer for a lesson
Pretty sure I`ve exhausted the list of where to look hence the tailspin but thanks for those
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Might be a stupid newbie question however having read about the north and the south of the broads roughly where does one start and the other end?
TIA.
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Hi,
Need help from experianced members selecting my first boat for use on the broads which is a lot harder than choosing one for a canal or a new car
Thinking around 32 - 36ft for broads use only, no intention of sea use at this stage with budget of around 40k, generally one person but neeeds to sleep 4 from time to time. Aim to spend large portion of the year onboard so more live onboard than weekend visits, holding tank/ pumpout rather than camping toilet with inboard rather than outboard engine. Something where I can see more than the reeds (taken from another thread so feel free to put me right on this topic) but with an airdraft low enough for most bridges.
So far I have considered Alpha, Aquafibre, Broom, Hampton, DC30, Bounty, Caribbean, Connoisseur, Viking, and a Storebro 34 Royal. I haven`t discounted any but the more I look the more I go into a tailspin
All help gratefully received.
for less than half your budget, and it gets under Potter bridge more often than a lot of boats.
Anyone Have A Broom 35 Sedan With Extended Flybridge
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Ah thanks, thought it might be new point that I was missing.