Springsong Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 Hello All We had a good day on Monday the saloon tongue & groove is now finished but no photo I am afraid as Will had to rush of for boiler duty on Falcon the MOB steam launch. Ivor and I remained and the result is the last board is now on the transom bar the fillet at the top that is. We had hoped to start getting the ply epoxied onto the tongue& groove on Thursday, England in July put paid to that with heavy rain showers and this is a job that needs dry weather with a bit of warmth for at least a morning. Oh the joys of working outside in an English summer. The other bit of good news is personal, but I had my first walk on Tuesday, and to day I have had a date for a fitting for my new apendage leg/foot to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I had my first walk on Tuesday, Thats great news mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 Hello All I shall try to catch up in some kind of order I have as usual been so busy, I really don't know how I ever had time to have a job/work. First picture is Ivor removing planks from the bottom of the boat. I had thought they were rotten, but no apparently some bright or not so bright spark had put three short planks about a foot long, side by side and all finishing in a straight line across, a complete no no what's more to hide it, it had had a piece of ply wood nailed over it. The next photo is looking up through the bottom of the boat to the cabin roof. The next photo is the 6mm ply cut and trimmed to fit the roof, although it is screwed down it will have to be removed to prime the inner roof before the bonding coat is applied and the whole is fitted and screwed down through predrilled holes. The portside bulk head that we thought we might get away with replacing the bottom half, don't be silly the whole thing was banjackzed so the photo you see is looking forward to where the bulk head used to be, also making one side of a hanging cupboard, which naturally was also useless, so what you see is the side of the boat and the end of the sideboard in the saloon. The final photo is the new saloon roof looking forward with the bulkhead missing. Good or wot ! More to follow time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillR Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 hi barry that ceiling looks lovely jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 The first photo is the coaming running at deck level inside the aft cockpit, a finishing piece if you like, not to bad, a good sand and a little scrapeing and away we go. No you forgot didn't you it's a wooden boat, next picture the other side of same piece of wood, rotten as a pea, which takes us to the next picture behind the coaming. Now this has had a little more of a dire effect, but we have managed to save the day by pooring a smidge of epoxy into the top of the rudder post to stop the progress of rot and to give it strength, it really is not that bad,but some of the timber around it is a little iffy. Next, the edges of the transom are now trimmed and faired ready to take the new planks, which hopefully will now be on order ready for the start of fitting next week Finally the ply will have a coat of epoxy binding a layer of finely woven glass cloth, the strip of wood you can just see in the picture is for this cloth to be epoxied to to give a good watertight finish, the tongue & groove will then butt up to it to give a nice finish. A solid wood handrail will run from side to side on the roof to take water away from the aft cockpit and also as somewhere for the cover to be fastened to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Not too much to report this week. We went down Monday and Will fitted the new bulkhead you see in the photos , the hanging cupboard still to be made with a new door to be made as well. A little worrying we have found a small amount of woodworm in the saloon/cockpit door, we have of course treated for this and it is the first evidence we have found, they apparently like oak and the doors are veneered one side oak the other mahogany, as you can see they only touched the oak. Fussy eaters? So new doors there as well, good job Will has veneering skills as well !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Hi Barry not been at the pc for more than two weeks nice to catch up with your resto the ceeling looks realy nice and looks fantastc mate carnt wait for the next installment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 At last some wood actually going back in instead of adding to the great pile of junk that we have taken out of her. These planks are as you can see sapele, we already had this timber, when that is finished we will go over to the Russian red wood, purely on a cost basis. When we pulled the formica off the s/board bulkhead we of course found, what ? You guessed it ROT. So the bulkhead we were leaving in is now on that ever growing heap, and yet more 20mm ply is on order. The second and third photos show the rot, although the shower was on that side we think the damage was done by water coming through the deck, she will be rectified when we put new ply on the decks and seal the whole with epoxy.The final picture shows the all too familiar open plan look of the saloon and galley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hi All The photo (not a very good angle) shows the rotten end of the cabin side removed One can see the piece of mahogany that is going to make the repair. The two halves will be glued together. Someone at sometime has run either a planer, but more likely a belt sander down the cabin sides leaving a bow in them, I don't quite know how we will overcome that yet, but I have every faith in our brains trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 Hello all. Last week didn't seem that busy but someone had been hard at it hence the marvelous repair to the cabin side and the new coaming for the aft cockpit, which in fact is all one piece cut from the board pictured. The wardrobe is now rebuilt sanded and ready for varnish, it should look really good with plenty of varnish to give it some depth. The other repair to the cabinside is to repair an old repair, we suspect this is where it was origionally glued as a two piece cabinside. Even in those days large wide pieces of timber were difficult to find and expensive by the standards of the day. The old repair was not full thicknes, but we are going to put full thickness in and with epoxy as the glueing agent should not give us trouble for a few years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillR Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 hi barry looking good jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted August 30, 2008 Author Share Posted August 30, 2008 So here we have the other end of the cabinside repair. The coaming from inside the aft cockpit, this as explained before was all taken from the one piece of Mahogany board. The piece for the other side, almost exactly the same, along with the piece of coaming to run across the aft end are being cut even as we speak. The galley windows as you can see have some well past sellby date perspex in them at present. This of course we were going to replace anyway with glass, but the thinking at the moment is to have made some S/S or aluminium channels made to enable us to have a sliding widow on both sides to get good airflow through the galley. We may yet go with hoppers we shall have to see. The picture of the cockpit shows the furniture removed and the hole in the bulkhead where one's feet would have been if sleeping in the quarter berth in the little starboard cabin. This will again be blocked off and the cabin made into a wet room / shower, or should that be a wet cabin. The cabin roof is now epoxied on bothe sides and screwed down, and so is at last waterproof. There is still a way to go all the screw holes have to be filled and the whole has to be rubbed down before the scrim cloth can be applied. The other photo shows the ends of the tongue & groove showing these have yet to be trimmed and when the cloth is finally put on a finishing piece of timber will be affixed along the edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Hi Barry hope you are well mate the roof is looking brilliant and from the look of the repair on the stern its now taking shape shes going to be wicked when shes finished. man i do love wooden boats keep it coming Barry Jonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 Thanks Jill Thanks Jonny Things seem to be coming together at last, the roof being watertight before the winter is a big relief, I am hoping we can get the decks watertight as well then we can work inside in relative warmth through the winter. We have ordered a new cover for her, we have been using cheap blue B & Q tarpaulins and also some not so cheap but they are just not up to the job so we have coming a PVC one piece cover which hopefully will be easier to use. The new S/S gas locker has arrived complete with all the necessary fittings including polished S/S skinfittings gas pipe elbows et all. One rather nice touch by Ken Nevard is the machine turning so that when one opens the wooden top to the locker the inside has this rather nice turning, probably the nearest I will get to a Bugatti dashboard, a vintage one that is. Work has now started on the starboard above the waterline planking, the portside as you can see is now screwer nailed and in some instances bolted with S/S bolts to give the old girl some extra rigidity. Cosmetic work has yet to be done plugging fairing etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 I have possibly mention this before but the extent of the problem is far greater than I at first thought. This yellow nylon washing line has been used instead of caulking cotton on two thirds of the boat in fact everything above the waterline, it has then had liberal amounts of brown Siekoflex placed in the seams on top.The result is every seam will have to be raked out and recaulked with cotton. Probably the only saving grace was it appears to be above the waterline only. Where was Tonto when the cowboys were running amok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillR Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 hi barry not the 1st time ive seen that done, nasty jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Look on the brightside Barry, now you will have somewhere to hang your washing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 Jimbo I really must try and get more in touch with my feminine side as you so obviously are, I would NEVER have thought of that Much thought and discussion has gone on as to what to do with the interior covering of the saloon bulkheads and around the windows. Will has come up with an idea which will use up all the offcutts from the Ash beams. He has cut them into half inch thick strips along their length bevelling each edge thus making an imitation tongue & groove. He has tacked some up so we could get an idea of what it will look like,all agree that this is definitely the way forward, apart from anything else it will give emense strength when epoxied to the cabin sides and the bulkheads. The starboard planking is coming along and you can see the only timber we have had to replace/repair (so far) sticking up awaiting being fastened. The final photo is of the cabinside repair not as yet glued and fastened and yet to be faired in and plugged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 Some of you may recall in darkest December last we were being towed from Acle or there abouts when they managed to stuff us into the quay heading at Upton Dyke. After all tis time and with threats of solicitors the stem has been repaired and to my untrained eye looks satisfactory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted September 21, 2008 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 Not much has been going on what with holidays and the like, but before he went Ivor had a look underneath the portside aft. I shouldn't be suprised if he never came back, the amount of wood to be replaced is a little daunting. As you can see in addition we have broken and rotten ribs to be replaced We have invested in a decent one piece cover, with winter coming up the old bits and pieces were becoming a liability and difficult to use. Whilst the covers were off we gave her an airing in the autumn sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 that cockpit looks realy good Barry and all those wooden cruisers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cabinboy Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Hi All I am fairly new to this site and have just finished reading this restoration project. By the way things are going the finished boat is going to look superb. Being a lover of wooden boats I am always interested when someone restores one to its former glory and I would wish those involved with this one every success. The reason for this post was I picked up on some discussion on sheathing with fibreglass. All I would say is that the yard where we used to be lifted out for the winter on the Thames had one in that had been sheathed to just above the boot topping. It was a Bates Starcraft about 28 ft. They built a range of beautiful boats and indeed a friend of ours had one. They were double diagonal planked with a round bilge which made for a strong hull but extensive work was required to effect any repairs. This particular one was left on the trolley with the bow slightly down. A hole was made near the bottom of the stem in the fibreglass and for a few days water was running out non stop. Obviously it had got between the sheathing and the hull. I do not know how difficult the sheathing would be to remove but I shudder to think of the state of the planking. It is one of those cases of each to his own but I would never do it myself. Just thought I would mention it. Look forward to reading more as the project progresses and best of luck. regards cabinboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 Cabinboy. Thanks for the kind remarks. I totally agree with you about the sheathing, not a good idea in my opinion. Jonny We have much to do in the cockpit, I think your eye has been caught by the ships wheel, rather nice though don't you think. Again quite a slow week. Now that I can stand with a modicum of comfort, and more importantly balance, I can reach higher and get some pressure behind the bent file tang I am using to rake out the seams.The brown sikaflex which is in the seam is really difficult to remove and seems to take an inordinate amount of strength and pull to remove. I am not sure yet what we will put back in, I shall have to take advice. I at the moment am leaning towards what used to be called trowel cement, which I guess is just waterproof filler or putty. I just would like something that is sandable but will remain pliable. The pictures show the new coaming around the aft well, and unfortunately the water stains that the old covers caused. These actually will come out withe some light sanding the we can get a sealing coat of varnish/white spirit on to protect it. The side decks where they were rotten have been removed so more ply to be ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Hi Barry youve been a busy man by the looks of things :-D :-D Jonny We have much to do in the cockpit, I think your eye has been caught by the ships wheel, rather nice though don't you think. Yes that aswell :-D :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted October 5, 2008 Author Share Posted October 5, 2008 Funny week last week. We only got down on Monday, Thursday was a washout. Will managed to give the coaming a quick rub down to remove the water staining and get a coat of let down varnish onto the wood to protect it. We pulled up the saloon floorboards to reveal a very dirty bilge but nothing a good cleaning won't take care of. Of course there may well be some planks to come out of that area yet. Along side the dity bilge we have laid some new floorboards which my son in law had left over. He has varnished his at home but I have been as one might say out voted on this on a noise / bare foot early morning tea vote, so carpet it is probably somekind of floatex style carpet in the galley. I think I am getting rather ahead of myself here but one does tend to think ahead. Finally my enviable job seam raking, I have to say now I can stand it has become somewhat easier, but that sikaflex does stick and is a b****r to remove. Having said that I think on the whole it beats lying on the ground removing and replacing planks, although that must be very rewarding when looking at the end product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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