Gt Yarmouth to York

[Hockham Admiral]

Hi, folks, and a Happy New Year! Not strictly to do with the Broads except that we will start at Burgh Castle!

Does anyone out there know where we can get pilots/charts for the upper Humber and Selby to York?

Many Thanks

[Guest]

I am probably the least qualified of all seagoing folk here and I am sure someone more experienced will be along soonwith more info - but any charts I have came from here:

http://www.bookharbour.com/epages/BookHarbour.sf

Good luck.

[Edit]

[pks1702]

A couple more

http://marinestore.co.uk/Merchant2/merc ... ilot-books

http://www.jim-shead.com/waterways/cana ... r%20Humber

[Antares_9]

As the guys show, admiralty charts or small craft portfolios are available from most chandlers, just make sure they are recent updates so you don’t have to spend hours bringing them up to date yourself.

Collins Nicholson guides are among the best once you lock out of the Humber and enter the Inland system.

[pks1702]

I am sure you will be aware of careful passage planning on this very exposed coast.

After Yarmouth with the exception of probably Wells which does not have all tide access (and not viable with anything with much strength from North or East) there are no real bolt holes until you hit the Humber.

http://www.wellsharbour.co.uk/getin.htm

Some further links which might be useful: http://www.ports.org.uk/allareas.asp

http://www.humber.com/Yachting-and-Leis ... /index.asp

http://www.humber.com/Estuary-Informati ... /index.asp

http://www.yorkmarina.co.uk/gallery.html

http://www.waterways.org.uk/InMyArea

I have assumed you mean by boat but otherwise train is Great Yarmouth - Norwich - Grantham - York

[jillR]

http://www.humber.com/

jill

[Hockham Admiral]

So many thanks to you all for all that excellent advice.

We have motored to Holland (yes, in a 25ft boat) many times and understand the problems of sea-passages; so up the coast to Grimsby won't be too daunting.

All the www's have been so helpful and that's exactly why we joined this net.

If it would be interesting we will post a short blog of our trip when we return?

Good Boating in 2009 wherever you may go.

[pks1702]

If it would be interesting we will post a short blog of our trip when we return?

Yes; we are always interested in sea passages here

[Guest]

Good luck with your journey - cant wait to hear about it, especially as I am from York and my parents still live in a riverside village just outside of York.

[jillR]

hi John and Mary-Jane

may i wish you calm seas and a following wind

jill

[Guest]

We have motored to Holland (yes, in a 25ft boat) many times and understand the problems of sea-passages; so up the coast to Grimsby won't be too daunting.

Friends of mine regularly go to Holland but I understand they regard the trip you describe with rather more suspicion.

I believe forum member Mariotech is quite experienced in doing this particular passage so may be able to offer some advice but I've not seen him post for a while. However forum member Senator moors in the same yard and has been posting recently so perhaps he can give a little prod.

[Antares_9]

Simon is right, the trip across is a lot less fraught and requires far less planning, the Humber and Lincolnshire coast and Wash was my old stamping ground and once past Wells the bolt holes are indeed few and far between, Saltfleet Haven is the only real option and is a nightmare in anything other than calm conditions and there are no facilities, it is worth getting updated local knowledge from http://smallboatclub.proboards98.com/index.cgi in case you need it .

Still, it’s all sandy and mud so beaching is always an option as a last resort.

[Hockham Admiral]

Again many thanks for all those helpful tips and suggestions.

We were not making light of the passage problem and did do it previously in 1980. However we knew little or nothing in those days about boating; I was a recently retired pilot in the RAF, so navigation wasn't a problem but with only an aeronautical chart we set sail to Grimsby and later up the Humber to York.

The trip to Grimsby was quite long as our boat then was a Colvic 30 capable of 8-10 kts; we didn't have any nav kit apart from a compass but I recollect it was a relatively calm day!

The trip from Grimsby up to York took us all day and basically we just cruised up the river with a following tide until we arrived at the lock; then on to York.

Coming home we came via Lincoln and had to part flood the bilge in order to get under the Glory Hole! Through the Wash was mainly foggy and we picked up a crab pot off Wells (but I had a wet-suit on board and managed to cut it free...).

Ah, the stupidity of (relative) youth!

But hopefully we have learned some lessons in the past 28 years boating, mainly sail but now motor, and the ideas gleaned from all the posts in reply to our topic have been most appreciated.

[pks1702]

How are you getting on at Goodchild HA?

Some very nice folks there; we were sorry to leave but full time salt called

Although another forumite and we, often still feature in their press adverts

Edit: to correct grammatical gobbledygook

[senator]

Hi HA,

Just noticed this one, as Simon said I moore next door to Mariotech and he boated for many years on the Trent and Humber, doing the trip there and back a few times.

The last time he came down to the broads was enough to put his long suffering wife and his daughter off the salt ever since and he has to pick flat calm days now to get them on the boat, believe it was 12 hours pretending to be a corkscrew, up to 13 miles off and no where to run too.

I will point him in the right direction for this topic and give him a prod.

Ian

[Guest]

T'was back in January Ian (heck I had two good legs back then). Might be a little late now!

[Guest]

Hi

It may sound odd, but Ripon Motorboat club annually update and publish a guide to the north easten waterways. This is well worth the money for anyone considering visiting this area. This is the definitive guide.

Covers:-

Scale Charts and Notes on Navigation are included for the following;

Ripon Canal

River Ure

River Ouse (Tidal and Non Tidal)

River Trent (Tidal and Non Tidal)

Check it out .... http://www.rmbc.org.uk/cruisingguide.html

and for a real giggle, follow this link to the history page, scroll to the bottom and there is a photo of my old sea scout troop, taken in York. I have no idea why it is there..??? http://www.rmbc.org.uk/gallery%20historical.html

Dean

[Antares_9]

Some interesting shots there Dean, and some useful links, perhaps you could also pop them into the useful links area.

It's really encouraging to see how many clubs publish such valuable information online based on good solid current local knowlege for navigators all around our coast an inland. When used in conjunction with your normal charts and pilot books they really do help to take the stress out of landfall and entry into some river systems for the first timeand when marks and bars have moved and all for free.

[puddlejumper]

: Hi not sure of your boat( pet/diesal )?the easy way is Yarmouth to Boston sluice up the Whitham to Torksey lock Mob 01427718202 Max Air Draft (9ft) at normal summer level.

Torksey to Keaby lock Mob01724782205 (lockin and wait for next tide) Keadby to Naburn 01904728500 in one hit. Most usefull guides are TBA trent chart and Ouse chart all available by post

try Farndon marina 01636705483 or Newark marina 01636704022 **note** IF you come this way you will neeb a BWB key avil at Grand sluice off locky All BWB locks operate on VHF CH74 you need to book grand sluice 24 hrs before the passage.Petrol is only avilable in the towns diesal riverside cheapist place is at torksey top side of lock in the basin diesal at torksey01427718243/Mob07970936959 plenty of pubs and nice villages on the whitham overnight at SAXILBY

nice chinky and abit further down the road a Coop the steak pies in the butchers are to die for.

Safe Moorings and Quite in York is past the last road bridge next to the gardens 2mins from town. hope this helps more info on waterscape

SAFE TRIP craig TERTIUS