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I rather like going into pubs and I always take an interest in what the food looks like when I see it served. If it looks good and I'm hungry then I will buy.

Here in Welcombe, Devon, on holiday, we've had a few excellent meals in the Old Smithy but I've yet to see a rating sign as we go in via the back door near the loos.

Still, it's a funny old world and we can each make our own choices in life, can't we?   :default_beerchug:

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Last post on the subject. Pass or fail, open or closed, doesn't give any incentive to improve the hygiene. I see a rating of 1 as a pass but with room for massive improvement, and being very close to being closed down. I see 4 or 5 as an establishment that has taken the time and effort to be as hygienic as they can, and have systems in place to ensure it stays that way.

I think we all agree it's about choice and by having the ratings displayed by the door doesn't stop anyone from exercising their right to go into a one star establishment if they so wish, that is still their choice and no one is saying it shouldn't be. However I do honestly feel that being forced to display a one star by the door may shame an establishment into trying harder at it's next review, if it cannot just brush the rating under the carpet till the next review.

Please remember that we are not all tech savvy and not everyone will look at scores on the doors, or local authority websites before going out to eat. Personally I do and will not eat at an establishment that has a low score, that is my choice. However what about Granddad Bob, or Auntie Doris, who doesn't have a smart phone, or computer. Why shouldn't they be given the information to make an informed choice if they so wish? Rating displayed at the point of entry is fool proof for young and old.

I'm going to go off at a tangent now, but one of the things that really annoys me about the way society is moving is that we are moving to a model where if you are not tech savvy, you are at a disadvantage, quite often financially. I'm thinking of older drivers and insurance comparison websites or the elderly and trying to find the best phone or energy deal etc.

Maurice, your point about my quotes, I think it doesn't copy every thing when people have interspersed their quote of mine, with their comments, breaking it up into several sections. It then only seems to copy some of the quote. I think? You can also delete part of a quote to reply to a pertinent point rather than reposting what could be a rather long post.

 

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At the risk of taking this off thread, many bacteria live on or in the body, a lot of which are good bacteria. When on a course of antibiotics these good bacteria can also be wiped out, it is thought this can lead to a lowering of the immune system, asthma, obesity, cancer, all believed to be fought of by the good bacteria, as well as problems with bloating and constipation as bacteria help in the digestion of food.

It is advised by many that after antibiotic treatment people should have a period of probiotic drinks to help replenish the good bacteria, unfortunately there are others who think the loss is permanent.

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Don't worry Martin it's not permanent.

One issue that many don't know about as it's easier to sell you something if the manufacturers don't tell you the down sides to their claims is probiotic drinks gain entry via the stomach where the acid conditions render most of them dead as a door nail. These bacteria exist in the digestive tract, gut, or upper intestine or lower intestine or whatever you wish to call it. Some can exist in the acid conditions in the duodenum H pylori for example. We can read about that particular controversy for hours.

The relationship is truly complex and to put a simple number or estimate on it there are more bacterial/fungal cells in or on your body (nominally called commensal organisms- these are deemed normal) than there are mamalian cells making up your body in the first place (there is a huge size difference which makes this possible) These organims are in what's called a dynamic equilibrium, i.e. constant back and forth of numbers in natural cycles. When this is interrupted by body conditions being off due to metabolic reasons or antibiotic treatments (and don't worry antibiotics dont kill everything only what they are designed for) then these numbers may change dramatically for a while and we get the trots or thrush C albicans (not a bacterium). The gut doesnt become a desert of bacteria just hugely reduced and it takes time for them to become re-established by the same mechanisms that put them there in the first place. 

I have attached a link to a very good article which is a bit techy but understandable and explains all this stuff in as much detail as one could possibly want. A bit of bafflegab but not too much.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/230790957_The_role_of_the_gut_microbiota_in_nutrition_and_health

OK truly derailed now...

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1 hour ago, Malanka said:

OK truly derailed now...

I have to disagree, although twenty-five degrees is the correct angle at which I grind the bevel, I find a secondary bevel at thirty degrees gives a much sharper edge! Back to me memoires...
"So I said to Charlize Theron 'quick, get in the cupboard, Amy Adams will be here any minute to wash the pots..."

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