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I had an update tour of the moulds and ongoing work with Clive about a week ago and not being a boatbuilder I was really impressed and amazed at the expertise and forward thinking of the team as a whole that goes into the work. Work that has been done and has to be redone because someone has thought of a snag or something that might happen in the future, as I say very impressive and it makes you realize why these things cost so much. Even important things like a hole in the dashboard so that Jonny could rest his coke tin had to be rethought and filled in.

Hi Barry, I hope to be on the boat as well but I can arrange to have the car at the carpark if nec. and collect the cake with you if there are no other volunteers by fri.

That's a shame Col, was looking forward to meeting up with you all again but can't be helped and hope to see you next time

I think I will Barry but not sure about my guests,if they come, as they are away this week and I cant check until the weekend but will let you know for sure then.

Please include me and possible 2 others

Hi Palmtree, Yes I do wrap it round the fairlead to take the strain off the winch, also when it is up If you expand the pic you can see it is linked over the fairlead with a link connected to the chain

Just an update now that I have the 4x4 winch installed and working. Because of my back problems I had to enlist some help from Paul (Lord) and because the winch did not sit level with the bow roller he made a stainless steel platform to bring it up level. I fitted a short length of chain so that I could hook it on to the fairlead when in the up position and take the strain off the winch. In conclusion if anybody wishes to go down the same route I will be happy to answer any questions.

Bruce, I'll have a look

On the wiring theme has anybody any good contacts for heavy duty cable i.e. 65 amp or near. I have tried googling but get very patchy results.

BEHIND YOU !!!!!!!

I thought I would post an update to my original question about windlass’s/ winches. After some browsing ect. I have decided to go down the 4x4 type winch . I ordered the smallest one in the range that I could find , this has a pulling capacity of nearly 1 ton and considering I only need to lift about 40 lbs I think it might cope !! It usually comes as standard with a wire rope but on speaking to the suppliers they can replace this with a synthetic rope at extra cost (which they have ). It also comes with a long wired remote but again they can supply at extra cost a wireless remote . The synthetic rope was quite expensive but I think a wise substitute and it is as strong as the wired variety. I ordered over the phone on one day and it arrived complete with the rope changed and the extras I requested the next day, now that in my mind is good service and the customer care service from this company couldn’t be faulted. So in conclusion , I will submit a further update when I have it installed but for now the box contained , the winch complete with synthetic rope installed, all fixing bolts, plate and hooks ect. wireless remote and winch cover. Total cost inc. VAT and shipping £184. The supplier did point out that these winches are designed to pull at the horizontal and not at standing start from the vertical so as long as you can start with a small horizontal pull this would be ok.

I had a look at Senator's suggestion for 4x4 winches and found that some are very cheap and maybe with a little conversion may do the job, any negative thought would be appreciated http://www.electricwinchshop.co.uk/cata ... Range.html

Gordon thanks for the invite and I'll have a look when I go over again but my problem is my back and I really need to have the luxury of electric but like you say there must be an alternative to the Marine label

That's what I was afraid of but I have to bite the bullet I suppose

Antares, much appreciate your thoughts and advise. I have an Elysian 27 and yes I do have to handle single handed but there is a chain locker under where at the moment I can hand feed the rope. My problem now is that the cheaper type winches that have been highlighted by peeps are not strong enough only able to lift up to 30 lbs and my mud weight is 18kg i.e. about 40 lbs so rock and hard place springs to mind

That's the one Antares and is the one Dave (Aquaholic) is referring to and it does seem to be in the running but I was hoping someone had fitted one and could give first hand knowledge but I might have to take a chance. Would you think that the 15lb lifting weight would be enough bearing in mind that they can get stuck in the mud and might need more power ?

Dave, I had seen that one but wondered if anybody had actually got one and could comment, it just seemed a bit cheap to do the job. Jill , that's the thread I was referring to but on reading it again it doesn't seem to help much, thanks for the info though. Unfortunately I do need an electric one because I have developed back and sciatica problems and I suspect it aint going to go away for some time.

I have seen the thread on windlasses but cant find it again so once again has anybody any personnel experience of having a winch suitable for lifting mudweights. I know there are numerous suppliers but too many to chose from so I was hoping someone has one fitted and at reasonable cost. It would need to be suitable for a 27ft boat

Here's a couple from my garden ,

Any folk out there use the JJC WR-100 remote release ? I have one which I use on my Canon but on recharging the actual remote I am not sure if the red light should go out when fully charged.

Many congratulations Mr & Mrs Richardson and family, hope you had a great day and are having a great honeymoon,

Re postage Simon, why not go to the royal mail website and work put and print your own postage and pay online then just give the package to the delivery postman, that's what I do with all my posting the only drawer back is that you have to post the artical within the timescale, usually 2 days

Col, I agree the one David has highlighted looks impressive and powerful at 3.5 million candlepower but I will be interested to hear how you get on with it. I have a cheapy type handheld lamp at 1 million candlepower just for home use but be gads it does get really hot if you have it on for any length of time. I wonder why you need to have the 12v connected type as opposed to the rechargable ones as I noticed that they do one that you can charge from a 12v socket or mains and up to 2 hours use, bit more expensive but more flexible anyway let us know how you get on with it

Are you going to be the first one to take the prototype under that bridge Clive

I have one more question folks then I will shut up. I have a switch over type isolater switch, No 1 is engine batt. No2 is domestic and I can have both together, my question is when I have No 1 batt. on and traveling am I charging both batteries or just No1