JennyMorgan

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/norfolk-broads-direct-donate-boat-to-nancy-oldfield-trust-1-6908049

I think that the clue is in the words 'ongoing restructuring', e.g. closures over a relevant period of time, not just this winter.

I haven't and probably won't be out this winter but even last year I used the moorings at both Reedham & Yarmouth. It was clear that they were closed but nevertheless the moorings posts remained. If the moorings are left 'open' but unmanned then I suspect liability becomes the issue as perhaps does the requirements of the insurers.

I don't doubt that but in order for a charterer to be able to make a decision they need to have knowledge and or information. Winter lets should perhaps, if they are not already, be limited to experienced crews.

As we have seen this year a number of hirers are first time visitors both to the Broads and to boats. In this instance surely it is up to the hire yards to inform their clients of the constraints and shortcomings of hiring out of season. Perhaps they do.

I believe that I am right when I tell you that she was intentionally burnt to the water-line and what was left was allowed to sink where, over the years, her remains have rotted away or sunk into the mud.

I have never had a problem mooring at either Yarmouth or Reedham during the winter months. No help on hand but the mooring posts are still there.

I did refer to land owned by the boatowner. It has always been common practice to moor against one's own land on the Broads but that has been challenged by the Authority. In other words moorings can't just be created at will. The Crown has accepted that in many cases landowners do own the land under a river to the centre point. Thankfully not! By the way, Patrick, an interesting post and welcome to the forum.

The trains couldn't run either. Maybe things might move a little faster now!

This article caught my eye. It concerns the land based traveler community and whether they can live on land that they own. In the non traveler community people also seek to live on land that they or their family own. There have been incidences at St Olaves where land owners have been told that they have no right to moor against their land, yet here travelers are told that they can live on land that they own. Surely there can be no difference between a traveler on land and one on water. I won't be fighting this battle but it's an interesting thought! There is surely no doubt that our local afloat traveler community is poorly catered for, especially around Norwich. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54657913

It does indeed but nevertheless the owner surely still has a responsibility for his/her boat, especially if they are subletting on the QT, sharing costs with a bloke from work .

However you look at it, it has left a nasty taste in the mouth. Branding the two pits, let me be generous, two lakes, as something that they are not, how history has repeated itself! (Allegedly in the name of marketing, ho ho ho!)

To Londoners Thrupenny bit has a whole different meaning ;) Such a coarse lot!

That area was suggested for residential moorings back in my time on the Navigation Committee. It wasn't favorably received at the time. However, since then the obvious need has surely increased.

Technically a houseboat is static, it has no power, e.g. no engine. Perhaps the Whitlingham Charity should be more charitable but then perhaps the Whitlingham Pits is not the answer. Surely somewhere though is, but where? A few off river dykes/cuts as in days of old could be the answer. At the moment Norwich, as many places, has insufficient accommodation for those on a low income and it certainly doesn't provide for the floating population.

In fairness they have been looking at the problem. They have also been keeping an eye on residential boaters and encouraging them to moor where public services can easily access them in the event of an emergency, especially so during the Lock-Down. The Authority shouldn't be forgiven for the Jenner's Basin furour, that was a disgrace but subsequently they do appear to have become more sympathetic. Perhaps they are seeking a fair balance but I really don't think that that should include what on land would be regarded as an absolute slum. As things are Norwich needs to provide for a houseboat community, as it needs to provide for the travelling community. My wife and I had a drive out in the country yesterday, we were both surprised as to the amount of caravans seemingly in residential use, presumably offsprings in their parent's garden or field. People need homes and folk who are prepared to help themselves should surely be encouraged.

At least it's off the main river.

Perhaps the propeller 'fell off' so it can't go anywhere!

Perhaps he took a shine to you!

As has been said, privateers don't generally get a handover when they pick up their new boat. Granted that many are ex-hirers and if so they should have an advantage, In the old days we had the 'thupenny bit' test. I'm told that it also applied to chauffeurs driving Rollers. A three penny bit was stood on its edge, and a boat should be moored, or the Roller parked, without the coin falling over! This is a thrupenny bit:

No need to apologise, there are worse places . . . . . . . .

Ex Naval officers on small boats are often thought of as being as useless as billiard tables, spirit levels, lawn mowers and numerous other similarly useless on small boat thingumabobs. The gentleman to which you refer, not a resident of Cantley by any chance?

Dear Cat, the point that you are making has a history of support on this and the 'other' forum. Personally I despair at the lack of ability shown by far too many privateers. You would think that as a matter of pride that they would make some effort to master this boating lark, if only to protect their investment.

Perhaps the BA had a point! That said, perhaps they could have been built and marketed as engineless houseboats. Indeed judging by the number of boats that never, ever leave their moorings there is a huge market out there for static boats. second homes.

On a Broads sailing cruiser the tiller is more normally on the centre line, it's way over to the left / port side on this one.