How much? !!!!!!!!!!!

[Antares_9]

Whilst checking all was OK after the bad weather I discovered the Charge air cooler (intercooler) on Kingfisher has a slight weep, not frost damage and only enough to leave a small salt residue on the endplate joint but still I thought I’d order up a new set of O rings online ready for a convenient morning to take it off and replace them. So, four O rings about 3†in diameter and another about ½†in diameter for the induction air temperature/vacuum sensor? Certainly sir that will be £150 ish, I know VP parts are not cheap but that is out of order. Good job I don’t need a complete cooler as that would be 6 tanks of diesel.

[Palmtree]

Hi,

Weight for weight that must be more expensive than gold!

How about trying one of these.

http://www.polymax.co.uk/acatalog/Rubbe ... _Kits.html

Ian

[senator]

David, possibly the point that even you decide to use an alternative to genuine parts. surely O rings can't be difficult to source.

[pks1702]

Ouch that is certainly expensive even by VP standards.

At least you will have piece of mind that they fit and are correctly specified.

[Antares_9]

If I could be CERTAIN that the material was exactly the correct spec then I would obviously consider engineering O rings as they are easy enough to measure up and source. In a less critical application I would just measure up and get some from a bearing supplier but if I get an internal leak then sea water being sucked into the inlet could lead to total destruction. Maybe £150 is not so bad against £20k for a new lump. It really doesn’t excuse the VP rip off spares prices though as I am sure they will not be manufactured purely for D4 Charge coolers.

[senator]

Looking at it another way, How old is your boat David 3/4 years. VP specs weren't that high were they?

Surely it is purely an engineering solution in that the material you are looking for these to be made from is the same material that VP would have been looking for.

VP didn't invent some super material to make them from so as long as the size is right the replacements should be just as good.

[Guest]

Forgive me here

Thee is a member on here who works for VP is it Steve would it be worth sending him a pm

Jonny

[pks1702]

I think you mean Neil; Jonny.

I suspect whatever Neil's private thoughts are he could do no other than recommend genuine VP Parts.

[Guest]

Thanks perry that's the fella

Thought it might be worth a try

[Palmtree]

Hi,

There is a legal requirement to disclose if an item you are sold or want to buy contains a SVHC (substance of very high concern) within 45 days of a customer asking. It is unlikely a O ring will contain a SVHC but they might just disclose what the material is by accident

Ian

[Guest]

I have a VP petrol engine, which is mostly a very common General Motors V block car engine.

Luckily, it's only a few parts that need to be of "Marine" spec, so the much cheaper and readily available "auto" parts can be used instead of genuine VP replacements. Spark plugs for example, £8 for an NGK set from Ebay, rather than £32 from VP !

I agree though, the occasional essentially Marinised part can really sting. I recently bought four exhaust riser gaskets, about 4 inches square, and the genuine VP parts were £10 each.

Just simple, square, flat gaskets with 6 holes, no copper inserts or laminations.....

[NeilB]

Oh I have lots of private thoughts!! But I'm afraid Perry is correct.

Yes, Volvo can be very expensive on Parts but so can other manufacturers including cars, I owned a Saab 2.3 turbo for 3 years and that really made my eyes water!! The D4/D6 is manufactured purely as a marine engine, you will not find it anywhere else except in a boat. This means that some parts are expensive due to economies of scale, although I doubt "O" rings would be unique.

I do not work in the Parts section If you have the part numbers I can double check what the retails are.

[Antares_9]

PN is 3583632 Neil, that's for the O rings which I need 4 off, I can't find the part number of the charge air cooler sensor right now.

[diesel falcon]

14 quids here http://www.volvopentashop.com/PriorDies ... 746210_062

[Antares_9]

14 quids here http://www.volvopentashop.com/PriorDies ... 746210_062

Thanks for that, they are Close to £80 inc VAT for four but even with the sensor O ring and postage they are bound to come out at well under the £150 I have been quoted.

[Antares_9]

Stripped the charge air cooler and sent one of the O rings off for identification of the material by a specialist supplier, they are simply 4mm cross section 140mm ID nitrile and they are sending me 6 off at £6.00 each.

[pks1702]

Well that is a result and worth the perseverance - beer vouchers saved!

[jimbo]

Just goes to show how much those Volvo boxes cost to produce

[Antares_9]

You don't get a box for that money Jim, just an old plastic bag.

saved about 30 pints of Ale pril Fool Perry, not quite up to your 34 pints a weekend I know.............................

[puddlejumper]

Orings and seals try barnwell service, vp proberbly sourced them from there then put on there 2000% mark up

[Antares_9]

Got the thing off and stripped it down, had to use a hammer and wood block to separate the stack from the housing but the VP workshop manual says that is the way to do it. No wonder they say that heat exchangers, oil and fuel coolers and after coolers should be removed and serviced every five years, the amount of calcification was surprising for a five year old boat though I would probably have done the whole raw water system with Rdlyme in situ if it wasn’t for the leak. All rebuilt and now just waiting for another #2 expander plug for my 319 kit from Sykes Pickavant so I can pressure test it properly before refitting. I will probably do the other four coolers with Rdlyme as it is a huge job to remove it all and do it manually.