Wanted.

[ptrehearn152]

Looking for an aft cocpit boat, Elysian, Lytton Discovery, seamaster or similar. Don't mind a bit of work but not looking for a project. Must have Diesel inboard, pump out loo and shower. 27 - 32 foot ish. 12 - 13k, no hard tops please, need to get under broads bridges.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Mouldy]

Call Paul at Swancraft.  He has an Alpha 31 aft cockpit for sale at £9950.

https://www.facebook.com/100063765301492/posts/pfbid02ZKWQfeLc6QuiQUNUVfpTSsZipUJm2eAaaWzXbg1Y3aJY9f8HxBtGTkJYNJfm1jXFl/?

[dom]

Waterside Marine Sales at Potter Heigham have a couple of Elysians at the moment.

There's a Seamaster 813 at NBS

[ptrehearn152]

Hi Dom, yes i have looked at one and looking at the other today, the first one i looked at was shall we say. not very successful.

 

[Mouldy]

https://www.nya.co.uk/boats-for-sale/lytton-discovery-850-4/

[dom]

6 minutes ago, Mouldy said:

https://www.nya.co.uk/boats-for-sale/lytton-discovery-850-4/

Air draft quoted is quite high. You'd think the screens would fold, but I can't see any sign that they do. Probably worth a call to clarify.

[Smoggy]

28 minutes ago, dom said:

You'd think the screens would fold, but I can't see any sign that they do.

They would with a good run up and plenty of throttle....

[ptrehearn152]

Hi Mouldy, I went to lokk at that Lytton, the photos make it look great but it has been neglected, there is years of growth under the waterline and all the paint on the superstructure is cracking and peeling of, way over priced i'm afraid. As for the Elysians at Waterside, they need a complete refit with one of them, the woodwork is literally rotten in the cabin. Also looked at an Aquafibre 32, also rotten inside. The Alpha 31 at Brundell wasn't for us either, got to say Paul is a great chap though.

 

[NeilB]

You may have already seen it but there’s an Elysian 27 for sale at Sutton Staithe Boatyard?

[Mouldy]

There is another Elysian advertised on Apolloduck at Tingdene, Oulton Broad:

https://www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/elysian-27-for-sale/761042

And this Seamaster at Buckden Marina looks quite tidy:

https://seamaster.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/seamaster-27-for-sale/762527

It can often be cheaper to buy from another waterway and get the boat transported, to avoid the ‘Broads’ pricing.

[dom]

2 hours ago, Mouldy said:

And this Seamaster at Buckden Marina looks quite tidy:

https://seamaster.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/seamaster-27-for-sale/762527

If travelling to look at this one, make sure to book an appointment in advance. There's no marina as such and I've found their communication leaves a bit to be desired.

As Mouldy says, it's worth looking elsewhere. I'm not sure you'll necessarily save much in the case of an Elysian, as they're also popular around the Great Ouse, but there are quite a few of them around here due to proximity to their origin.

On the Great Ouse, it's worth keeping an eye on these brokers:

https://www.boatinland.uk/ads  Buckden Marina's main site

https://www.jonesboatyard.co.uk/boat-sales  Generally more premium models.

https://www.crosshallmarine.com/boat-sales.html  Often lots of smaller boats - stock's low at the moment

https://www.fishandduck.co.uk/our-boat-sales/  Duncan's a really genuine guy. Mostly narrowboats, but some small cruisers.

 

[Smoggy]

I always thought the seamaster 27 was a lovely looking boat, even now they are all getting on they still have a lovely shape, much prettier than any broads cruiser in my view.

I still think my old RLM31 was far nicer on the eye than my present boat.

[dom]

33 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

I still think my old RLM31 was far nicer on the eye than my present boat.

When I worked at Summercraft, one of the neighbours had a Project 31 which I always lusted after. 

I think if I won the lottery, I'd be nice to do something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi_wzoVjlrQ

I'd probably steer more towards the Classic 27 as the base though. Not sure if Silverline still have the moulds, but that was always my favourite retro hull design.

[NeilB]

8 minutes ago, dom said:

I think if I won the lottery, I'd be nice to do something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi_wzoVjlrQ

I was involved with this rebuild, we literally scoured the world for parts so our dealer could rebuild the engines and drives, even stole some items from the Volvo museum!!  They used them for a year or so but replaced them with a single D3 diesel for reliability.  Not heard what happened to it but it was exhibited around the world.

All 3 UK builders refitted old models as a PR exercise.  Sunseeker did the Sovereign 17 which was driven by Robert Braithwaite himself in a Bond film.

Fairline rebuilt a Fairline 19 complete with some ancient outboard, saw it a few weeks ago at the factory slowly turning green!!

[MauriceMynah]

4 minutes ago, NeilB said:

Fairline rebuilt a Fairline 19 complete with some ancient outboard, saw it a few weeks ago at the factory slowly turning green!!

Always a good sign of a loved boat.

[Smoggy]

Murky green is the new shiny white I'll have you know!

Got to keep up with the times.

[dom]

21 minutes ago, NeilB said:

I was involved with this rebuild, we literally scoured the world for parts so our dealer could rebuild the engines and drives, even stole some items from the Volvo museum!!  They used them for a year or so but replaced them with a single D3 diesel for reliability.  Not heard what happened to it but it was exhibited around the world.

All 3 UK builders refitted old models as a PR exercise.  Sunseeker did the Sovereign 17 which was driven by Robert Braithwaite himself in a Bond film.

Very cool thing to be involved in.

My second lottery win dream retro rebuild would be a Poole Powerboats / Sunseeker S23. I very nearly bought one once, but it needed more work than I could afford to take on at the time.

I do think we've lost something since around the late 90s, when design switched to practicality over style. A lot of very new stuff coming out now I think is just plain ugly. I still think there's little prettier than a Fairey Huntsman 28 or a Huntress.

[NeilB]

2 hours ago, dom said:

I do think we've lost something since around the late 90s, when design switched to practicality over style. A lot of very new stuff coming out now I think is just plain ugly. I still think there's little prettier than a Fairey Huntsman 28 or a Huntress.

Shouldn't say this as it pays my bills but I agree with most modern designs being ugly and mostly following the same formula.  Give me a Bourne / Collins 35 any day!

Sorry for the thread drift ptrehearn152, it's part of the forums charm!  Hope you find something soon!