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Geez this is typical example of dammed if they do and dammed if they didn't. It's an unprecedented time no ones an expert, companies are going to overreact but at least they are reacting and at least the broads have reopened and we can all go outside.. I dread to see the comments when the pubs reopen!!

Interesting, YBW say's it was originally Port side for UK boats, Starboard for US boats.. but Brundall built Crown is on starboard, tad strange, it certainly seems, that larger boats are to starboard or midships .. I guess it's to port on the broads as it's more close helmed and at sea it really doesn't quite matter.. I've never really thought about it.. On topic, I'm surprised public moorings are open.. all them hands and fluids on the mooring bollards..

very smoothly done may I say...

Good stuff from Team Richardsons, hardly surprising though in my book. Many companies will be remembered by how they've handled the last couple of weeks. Personally I would prefer a company who hasn't rushed into reopening, it gives time to do things properly and learn lessons from others.

Shepard neames in favesham?

:( I didn't win... I was feeling good about that too lol.. means I probably got to buy one one day.. Although loving my single kayak and will probably upgrade to one from tootega sooner rather than later anyway.. But looks like a top outcome for the zoo and looks like everyone got lots of press coverage as tickets sold out pretty quick... Will have a wonder around the zoo as soon as we can too! (can't you make Boathouse do another?)

Hope you don't expect to see your parents as they aren't permitted to be inside during viewings ;) ;)

As I mentioned in the other posts, Whilst an insurer may happily accept without a survey, you are basically leaving yourself open to a disclaim. Had a large claim with craftinsure and the boat was only saved by a recent survey. Whilst it may be an expense and pain to lift, it's well worth it and a survey is due it's weight in gold. I would never have a boat afloat (and I've had a few..!) without a valid survey in place. Insurance companies are not your friend. A marine surveyor is your friend though. I highly recommend Craftinsure though and I wouldn't chose to insure with anyone else.

There are various strains.. One may have had one strain but not the other, plus it appears some people have been known to catch again. (Hope you feeling much better now though).

With respect I don't understand why the questioning of numbers?? Yes the government maybe doing strange things for numbers for whatever reason (Probably to still instil a bit of realism into those still burying the head in the sand). But we should be in no doubt that people are dying of a global pandemic, I guess it's nice to live in hope that it's not as bad as it seems, but personally I suspect it's worse than we are lead to believe, 10 years down the line I'm sure we see how bad today is and how much of a bullet we are all currently dodging.. I know of 3 people who died of coronavirus.. nothing else. I know of 4 people who have recovered. I have many stories from the front line of how bad it is. Just because we can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.. And if we look back at the spanish flu (which hopefully history wont repeat), it may get a lot worse (and the spanish flu only went away because it mutated to a less dangerous strain who knows what COVID-19 will do).

That's the thing, the restrictions on movement is written in law: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/regulation/6/made Unless the defence is "Exercise" , although checking my boat can hardly be explained as exercise but if it's not so clearly written then why was it enforceable least week?? (Surely last week then the police was acting on guidance. (or perhaps we aren't in this emergency period now).. it's all so bizarre, I've always been led to believe that law is pretty black and white but it seems so grey at present. I wouldn't like to be a copper or a judge at the moment...

This is what slightly worries me and I'm not legal expert at all... I understood the the COVID restrictions where written in law and thus the police can enforce. (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/regulation/6/made) The kind of lifting of these "Restrictions" are just guidance are they not? The law hasn't been changed at present so surely all restrictions written in law are still in place and thus the police can still enforce??? Are we being led down a path where there is currently a law in place but the government is advising we can break it? (I hope that makes sense).

This morning during the BBC's Q&A thing a minister said you can't drive 100miles+.. Seems that's there's many mixed messages as the documents state you can. I suspect they still don't want people driving far and to stay local. They also said you shouldn't travel to second homes.. Seems a tad strange to me why private boats access have been permitted but I suspect the RYA had something to do with it and the case that boats do need maintenance. If anyone does visit the marina where Orca is (I'm not saying where but some members know.. I never know who you are too please say hi!) can you please drop me a quick PM if you pass her.. it would be nice to know if she's still floating at least! (I've not had a phone call though so sure all is well and I don't want to pester that certain someone as no doubt they will be hectic now anyway).

If only it was that easy... You can certainly expect that at least one person would be infected.. Sorry but it's the obvious truth..

There's one of these here in Hoo, I think it's top gem 2 (It came from norfolk and I remember it arriving a few years back). I'll see if I can get some pics and find out what it was.. Brother in law looked at one for a conversion but the low ceilings? Lots of space though although I think we looked at one of the champagnes.. A bit pointy too wouldnt like to be hit beam on by one.. Love these types of posts though shows how invaluable NBN is and the knowledge/experience held by of some of you guys.

A boat is very different from a vehicle though?? It adds a whole complexity and it's really unique. The government do need to precise about it for many reasons but we shouldn't expect them to overnight really as they can't put everything into plain english it needs to public to try to engage a bit of a brain; I.e A boat (with a bunk, a loo, a cooker and engine) can obviously cross international borders with ease, yes Broads boaters don't really leave the broads but any of them theoretically could do easily (A kayak, canoe, sailing dinghy could but likely wouldnt really as they would probably capsize and die before they pass the 12 mile limit), there needs to consideration about an american/iranian boat (A country not under the same strict controls as us) not coming and mooring right beside us here in coastal waters, but it's a big world outside and the broads are connected to that world, so it's not as easy as it may seems! The government will probably need to put controls in place which states "No private international boats landing" which will then annoy france (again) although I think I read on the RYA that this is almost in place which will then probably give the BA reassurance they need..but it needs time. Considering landlocked boats are still restricted I wouldn't be surprised if the blanket is slowly lifted as so rules can be ironed out as clearly someone will misinterpret.. Thankfully I see my aviation friends having similar problems which seems fun for them too!

Kinda right Peter.. Just to help Tom out further: He or colleagues answered a question about when Private boat use maybe permitted on facebook as: New exercise and outdoor visit rules to come in to effect from 13 May were announced on 10 and 11 May by the Prime Minister/Government. We today received clarification from Defra that this includes water sports/exercise such as canoeing/kayaking/sailing as this was not made clear in the initial guidance. Private boating on the Broads is a different and specific case that is not classed as exercise and was not clarified by recent guidance. Hence we have sought to hear back from the Government imminently as to whether it can resume with social distancing guidelines in place. Thanks for your patience. So we still need to wait. Even if the BA receive that guidance i guess it would depend on private marina access. Also a bit of a concern; my Canoe and Kayak is covered by a BCU licence, at present the BCU haven't updated their advice (but promise to do so before wednesday) so I suspect until they update this and it's the same news then the licence isn't valid (maybe), I guess a BA tolled kayak is ok as long as tolls are paid.. I doubt we will be up the broads this weekend by may look to go up the medway assuming the EA and BCU confirm it's permitted that is and it's safe to socially distance on the river.

Broads Authority Statement, 12 May The Broads Authority has been working with the Defra and the inland navigation authorities – the Environment Agency, the Canal and River Trust and the Association of Inland Navigation Authorities (AINA) - in order to obtain and give accurate guidance regarding boating on the Broads. It is now clear that the Government guidelines issued yesterday (11 May) allow for sailing and paddle boating (including canoes, kayaks and paddle boards) to resume from Wednesday 13 May. We are awaiting clarification regarding whether private motor boats can be used for day trips. There is a preference for consistent advice on boating across England. However other inland waterways may be forced to delay reopening for private powered boats as they need to complete tasks such as asset inspections to ensure their waterways are safe. The Broads Authority has continued to maintain its waterways so they are ready to resume boating immediately. This is a unique position and we would be able welcome private powered craft back to Broads waterways this week. We expect a decision regarding this from the Government tomorrow (Wednesday 13 May) and will communicate this to boat owners as soon as possible. To summarise, sailing, canoeing, kayaking and paddle boarding on private vessels can resume in the Broads from Wednesday 13 May (for day trips only) and individuals are able to drive to access the waterways for these purposes. We will advise if the same is true for private powered craft as soon as we receive confirmation from the UK Government. As always, we continue to urge people to take care, follow guidelines and respect social distancing. Please plan ahead to ensure the safety of you and those around you, and try to avoid areas that may attract lots of people.

Thing is though Andy that seems to mention nothing at all about leaving your home other than employment really.. I agree it's all vauge and leading to discussions like this all over the country.. Basically though the government recommend we all stay home.. PERIOD! It's safe at home obviously.. But we can't so we need to go to work if it's safe, go out to get supplies and to not get other sickness we ideally should go and exercise but leaving home risks us catching the pesky virus so they don't really want to tell us to do that so they are being vague without being as blunt as saying if you go outside you have a higher risk than normal of dying (or overwhelming the NHS).. Catch 22 really...

IMHO; TFL and other large places with mass public transport certainly should be running as many carriages/trains as possible or limit the people who get on AND force every traveller to wear a mask and if they can't then it's not safe to be running public transport at the moment (Yes its then the government will need to provide masks too really.. lol), costs shouldn't come into it at the moment but longterm who knows, I'm glad I don't commute like that. I kinda disagree a little with the RYA, although they are acting for the boating public which is good for them but I think they have been a bit premature with their demands.. Again it's still early days. I think priority should still be given towards the marina staff and safety within the boating environment things like: loo's, hoses, fences/railings, pontoons, mooring bollards etc etc etc are all potential issues which need consideration (at our residential berth, we have no loos, we have our own hose and tap points, no one has any reason to touch our utilities on a public mooring thats all very different and although maybe low risk is still a risk which needs to be understood.. I also disagree that the BA need to make a leap of faith here; they must seek guidance from science which clearly the central government have access to (and worldwide governments experiences through being ahead of us). The BA is a tiny organisation and without bringing too much politics in; haven't really shown much confidence in handling things in the past, I wouldn't trust any decision they make alone and as residents of broadland I think you need to be very careful what you wish for.. Again the broads is a rural aging community with a rural healthcare, a highly infectious decease spreading in that community would quickly overwhelm it. Currently it has my support to shield it as much as posible and I will not visit until I'm led to believe it's as safe as posible for all. Andy @ Freedom et al, I guess they will be guidance, probably via the hotels industry on how to do things, it seems hotels are reopening in Europe so it's probably just time to see how the are running but you are certainly in a tough spot there and again you have my full sympathy :( We will all need to live with this but we need to learn first.. Personally I'm less hopeful now that it's under control and it feels like we have started to follow the selfish US attitude, pressurising our government into acting without giving them time to consult...

Looking at the British marine document it reads as it's guidance to follow. It seems MDL marinas are permitting access from wednesday and I'm seeing local yacht clubs permitting access so as usual it seems it's open to individual interpretation. Thing with Marinas/Caravan parks is (and not kinda pointing anywhere) is that it's a subscription service they get the money regardless if they are open or not, it doesn't quite matter to them if you are permitted in and they wont open if there's any small leeway. I'd also suspect if there are residential people in there (hidden) then it seems morals are kicking in and quite rightly they are protecting them too. Personally I can't see any difference to me being on my boat in norfolk compared to me living here aboard on the medway. I'd feel safer in norfolk where at least I could really get away from people but we never moor near anyone else anyway although I understand how many others do.. I suspect marinas etc are set to open in the next few weeks although stupid londoners are apparently cramming on the underground already so I bet we see a second peak which will force a stronger lockdown and kill many thousands: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-commuters-pack-london-tube-platforms-after-pms-lockdown-announcement-11986344?fbclid=IwAR1eaPEWIx6RkPGbWRUKXsljL-Lig67NoXdyXbnOwfU0IDZtLLKFfDxevfQ Everything crossed still.

That's from the BA so that's as close as we will get in terms of clarity at the moment. https://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/news/coronavirus-covid-19

Check back tomorrow when the BA advises (And probably check again just before you launch as it all may change)..

Broads Authority Statement, 11 May. In light of revised Government guidelines issued on 10 May, the Authority is urgently consulting Defra (Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs) tomorrow morning (12 May) to seek clarification regarding how this is interpreted in the Broads, in particular whether private boaters are able to use their vessels on the waterways from Wednesday 13 May onwards. In the meantime, the UK Government has updated their general guidance on what you can and can't do as of Wednesday. Whilst the advice is still to stay at home as much as possible, from then onwards you will be able to leave your home and drive to exercise or spend time outdoors multiple times a day. This means that members of the public can now drive to access public spaces such as footpaths and cycleways within the Broads as long as they follow all of the conditions around social distancing from people that are not within your household. There is no limit on the distance that is acceptable to travel for exercise or to access outdoor space, however only day trips are permitted. Angling is also specifically named as an acceptable sport from 13 May. Please bear with us whilst we confirm what the guidance entails regarding paddle and water sports. We aim to issue more comprehensive information tomorrow. We continue urge people to take care to follow guidelines and respect social distancing. Plan ahead to ensure the safety of you and those around you and try to avoid areas that may attract lots of people. Thank you.

Doubt it as they are following government advice. I suspect if that would be to happen then it would be uninsured but I'm sure it's happening and there will be in interesting test case to go through the courts at some point.