A Bit More Advice Te Soil Pipe Please.

[Ray]

In the photo of the diverter valve you can see last years new pipe from the wc to valve on the right and the older pipe I want to replace on the left.

In the photo of the top of the holding tank you can see the pipe to be replaced going in to the tank and running beside it the new pipe to the diverter valve.

It seems to me I could simply cut the new pipe at this point and connect into the holding tank.

This would cut the journey length of waste by nearly 2 metres and remove the obstruction of the valve. It would also remove a slightly uphill section.

I would flush and seal the diverter valve, leaving it in place to avoid any interference with the hull and having it available if some future owner takes her off broads and wants to use it.

Any thoughts or potential problems I've missed please?

 

[Smoggy]

What you suggest makes sense if you never plan on using the direct discharge option, If you are going to leave the spare pipe attached to the hull valve I'd be tempted to pump any water out and put a drop of neat anti-freeze down it before capping in case of future bad cold snaps when you've forgotten it's there as chances are a drop of water will slowly get past the valve eventually filling the pipe to waterline.

I'd take the diverter off and make up a pipe blank to put in there, maybe a bit of 40mm plastic bar turned down to 38mm leaving a couple of small ridges convenient hose clip distances apart and push inside the hose and clip.

[Ray]

49 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

What you suggest makes sense if you never plan on using the direct discharge option, If you are going to leave the spare pipe attached to the hull valve I'd be tempted to pump any water out and put a drop of neat anti-freeze down it before capping in case of future bad cold snaps when you've forgotten it's there as chances are a drop of water will slowly get past the valve eventually filling the pipe to waterline.

I'd take the diverter off and make up a pipe blank to put in there, maybe a bit of 40mm plastic bar turned down to 38mm leaving a couple of small ridges convenient hose clip distances apart and push inside the hose and clip.

I just had another look after reading your post. That's good advice, thank you 🍺

[annv]

Hi Ray if you dont use the diverter valve(ie pump toilet overboard and not going to sea) anything that shortens the length is a good thing , good to see that you have two stainless clips on each joint, ideally the saddles should be opposite each other BUT dont change them now as they are set on the hose but perhaps doing this on the new hose joints. John

[Ray]

Thank you John, if I do this the waste hose from wc to holding tank will be about 2 feet long and all on a slight slope down to the tank. 

I cant imagine I would ever want to use the facility to pump overboard but with the outlet already fitted in the skin converting her back would be quite a straight forward job I hope.

I'm just about decided to do it, I have to change a pipe anyway and this could even be a (slightly) less unpleasant way to get the job done and end up with a more efficient system 👍

[Ray]

Sorry to ask so many questions but I think I may leave the diverter valve fitted in the boat and cut off short (3 or 4 inches) the current pipes from the wc and to the holding tank and seal them off.

Would either of these items be suitable please - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B08155HPJP/ref=sspa_mw_detail_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWwy&th=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Waste-Pipe-Cap-Stop-End/dp/B015QBD1RG/ref=mp_s_a_1_18?crid=6DLMB7HYC3DX&keywords=38mm+sanitation+hose+end+cap&qid=1645282805&sprefix=38mm+sanitation+hose+end+cap%2Caps%2C77&sr=8-18

 

[Smoggy]

Too short and wussy for a fexible pipe going to a hull fitting below water line.

The second looks like it's for push fit plumbing, the first looks like a cosmetic tube end.

[Ray]

Thanks Smoggy, this is why I ask questions here... straight forward good advice 👍

[annv]

Hi Ray you should have a gate or ball valve connected to hull fitting this will stop water ingress so any cap will be for decorative/aesthetic reasons and NOT for water integrity so any thing will be ok, UNLESS the valve is not working . John

[Smoggy]

And you would trust to an unsecurely capped below water fitting that has been ignored/unused for years? I wouldn't!

[Ray]

I have this morning found and ordered some 40mm bar so it'll be belt and braces for me now anyway.

I'm leaving the diverter valve in place which I'm guessing also has some mechanism for stopping water ingress at the point where it would discharge.

So the skin valve, the diverter valve and some good effective bungs in the cut off pipes.

Belt, braces and a fetching pair of garters if you will 😂

Seriously I'm very grateful for all the advice from you both 👍🍺

[Smoggy]

The diverter will not shut anything of, if one side is shut the other way is open.

I would take it off and just have one pipe to cap, you can always leave the diverter in a bag beside the pipe or taped to it in case of future need.

[Ray]

Looking at my photo again that could make disassembly a little less risky of "unpleasantness" too. 

OK so I just have too wait for some deliveries and I'll be getting on with it.

Thanks again.

[annv]

Hi Ray I take it that the divertar valve is above the water line in which case remove and cap or keep and cap. John

[Ray]

Thanks John 👍

[Mouldy]

Careful Ray.  One wrong move and you could be knee deep in more than just brown stuff!! 😉😁

[Bikertov]

And whatever you do, don't put a fan on for ventilation, in case anything hits it 

[Ray]

It's not too late to volunteer... 😂😂😂

[Mouldy]

55 minutes ago, Ray said:

It's not too late to volunteer... 😂😂😂

Why do you think Paul did ours?  I’m usually in the s**t with ‘er indoors, never mind on the boat!! 😉😁

[Ray]

The only things I keep telling myself are that I have to do something anyway and this should make a real improvement to the one thing that would be good to improve.

On the other hand... I can offer volunteers beer, tea, coffee, cake, never ending gratitude, money, my car, my house... a pact with the devil? 😂

 

[Mouldy]

24 minutes ago, Ray said:

The only things I keep telling myself are that I have to do something anyway and this should make a real improvement to the one thing that would be good to improve.

On the other hand... I can offer volunteers beer, tea, coffee, cake, never ending gratitude, money, my car, my house... a pact with the devil? 😂

 

I could offer to come and watch, but c*cking it up in front of an audience may not be good for your self esteem, not to mention my nose!! 😉

[Ray]

7 minutes ago, Mouldy said:

c*cking it up in front of an audience

You already know me so well 😂🍺

[Smoggy]

Get it pumped out then flush plenty of clean water through and it'll be fine I'm sure.

A lot of these dreaded jobs are nowhere near as bad as you think it'll be, but have bin bags to hand so you're not lugging manky bits through the boat.