diesel falcon Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Hi we spent the weekend at Loddon basin, very pleased to see new post s for electricity ......hope their not finished....otherwise your going to have a lot of people falling in, the card readers face the BASIN!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quo vadis Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 oops wonder how much that will cost to put right!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranworthbreeze Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 As you oops! so called professionals are not what they used to be. Is it one or two additional new posts fitted?If they are lucky and the post can be detached from the base and turned round 180 degrees it will cost less than a couple of hundred in labour and travel costs if not it will be a costly mistake.RegardsAlan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary01 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 i walked past them several times saturday and sunday too (short cut from caravelle to get coffee and grub) and thought they looked good, just not practical. the electrician was working on them saturday perhaps i should have said something from a practical point of view but 9 out of 10 tradesmen don't take kindly to such comments .. was lovely in loddon sat eve watching the herron catching its supper . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 i walked past them several times saturday and sunday too (short cut from caravelle to get coffee and grub) and thought they looked good, just not practical. the electrician was working on them saturday perhaps i should have said something from a practical point of view but 9 out of 10 tradesmen don't take kindly to such comments .. was lovely in loddon sat eve watching the herron catching its supper . see trev and bobs boating blog!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quo vadis Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Mended 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paladin Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 A question for the electrical experts - is that coil of wire sufficiently loose to avoid any danger of overheating? I realise it is subject to the load being placed on it, but, as a total amateur, I have always followed the usual advice to uncoil lengths of wire before use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranworthbreeze Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Hello Paladin,A good question.If the same amount of cable was on a reel then no, but that cable is open to the air.That coil of wire however should be on the boat rather than being on the mooring, I might leave some slack to take into account the rise and fall but a coil like that is waiting for someone to trip over it.If we are some way from the post I loop the cable around each post.Regarding the design of the posts it would be better if the sockets and card readers were on the sides of the posts.RegardsAlan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockham Admiral Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 It will depend on the load (amps) being used as to whether it will heat up. Any wire will overheat if you put enough current through it, though if it's coiled it will do so more readily. If you really do coil it (as on a reel) then watch out! http://www.electrical-contractor.net/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/122077/Overheated_Extension_Cord.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Thanks for the answers. Yes, that's the sort of thing I get concerned about, perhaps overly, but I prefer safety to unnecessary risk-taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbird Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Coiled wire can create an induction loop if enough current passes through it. Having said that, we store our cable on a reel and only unwind enough to plug in, and have spent 20 years caravanning and 5 years boating never felt the cable get even slightly warm. It may be more of a problem with a 32A cable, but I think with 16A it's much less of a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranworthbreeze Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Hello Mark,Stick a 3KW fan heater on any 16 amp cable and it will get warm.RegardsAlan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Coiled wire can create an induction loop if enough current passes through it Not with 2-core or 3-core mains cable as the fields generated by the currents in Line & Neutral cancel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranworthbreeze Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I wonder what the effects would be if the coil of cable was put onto a metal post?More than likely as per mjt's post the inductive effects would be canceled.RegardsAlan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbird Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Hello Mark, Stick a 3KW fan heater on any 16 amp cable and it will get warm. Regards Alan Good job I don't have a 3kw fan heater then Alan . The most we ever have on is the battery charger and 1kw kettle. We do have a 1kw immersion heater but always turn that off if boiling the kettle as we get fed up with posts tripping if several boats are split off from one post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranworthbreeze Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Hi Mark, You mean tripping, like they did on the last meet at Oulton Broad. Like yourself we just use the posts for battery charging and a late night cuppa and if needs be supplement the heating out of season, but at that time we usually have the mooring to ourselves. Regards Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbird Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 yes, just like that Alan! 20 boats all plugged in with temperatures around freezing...all off a 40A main breaker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockham Admiral Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 A question for the electrical experts - is that coil of wire sufficiently loose to avoid any danger of overheating? I realise it is subject to the load being placed on it, but, as a total amateur, I have always followed the usual advice to uncoil lengths of wire before use. I've just looked at that pic again and I must say that I personally think that your coil or whatever should be on your boat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockham Admiral Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I'd also be interested to know if the hire companies have been putting pressure on the BA to up the number of leccy posts? (With the increasing number of hire boats that have a 230V shore-power system). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quo vadis Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 A question for the electrical experts - is that coil of wire sufficiently loose to avoid any danger of overheating? I realise it is subject to the load being placed on it, but, as a total amateur, I have always followed the usual advice to uncoil lengths of wire before use. No it will not overheat its a water hose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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